Airbus A320neo family production thread - 2015-2017 (part 7)

c933103 · Tue May 23, 2017 2:10 am

... which Japanese LCC will be getting A320neo? The Japanese browser game I'm playing claim they'd collaborate with a LCC on an A320neo but so far aren't there only ANA and Peach ordered the aircraft? But ANA is not LCC and Peach won't be getting them till 2019 which I don't think the game would announce this thing so long ahead...
Could it be Jetstar Japan?

KarelXWB · Tue May 23, 2017 4:32 pm

Frontier's next A320neo, "Wiley the Bison", emerged from paint:

F-WWTV / N312FR by cliper31, on Flickr

Volaris' second A320neo got its engines installed again:

F-WWDX / N529VL by cliper31, on Flickr

KarelXWB · Wed May 24, 2017 7:49 am

Second A321neo delivered:

Airbus A321 -253N 7639 N922VA Virgin America delivery 24may17 XFW-BGR-MIA ex D-AVYE

Eyad89 · Wed May 24, 2017 9:06 am

This definitely has been a quiet year when it comes to A320NEO orders. Does it have anything to do with the P&W engines? Or is it only a matter of a market slowdown?

KarelXWB · Wed May 24, 2017 9:27 am

Eyad89 wrote:
This definitely has been a quiet year when it comes to A320NEO orders. Does it have anything to do with the P&W engines?

Airlines can always order the CFM model. At the end of 2016, Airbus already hinted that there will be less orders in 2017. Think we have been spoiled as airlines ordered too many aircraft during the last ~ 5 years.

KarelXWB · Wed May 24, 2017 9:32 am

Another Citilink delivered:

Airbus A320 -251N 7587 PK-GTD Citilink Express delivery 24-25may17 TLS-DWC-CMB-CGK ex F-WWDU

StTim · Wed May 24, 2017 10:02 am

How many neos have been delivered now?

KarelXWB · Wed May 24, 2017 10:06 am

StTim wrote:
How many neos have been delivered now?

More than 100, but I'm not keeping track of the exact amount.

speedygonzales · Wed May 24, 2017 10:24 am

StTim wrote:
How many neos have been delivered now?

103 A320 and 1 A321 at the end of April according to the Airbus O&D spreadsheet.

StTim · Wed May 24, 2017 10:59 am

Thanks

KarelXWB · Thu May 25, 2017 11:22 am

Vistara took delivery of its first A320neo.

Airbus A320 -251N 7606 VT-TNB Vistara delivery 24may17 TLS-DEL ex F-WWBJ

Vistara A320-251N 7606 by dn280tls, on Flickr

anshabhi · Thu May 25, 2017 12:10 pm

see this underbelly art:

chiad · Thu May 25, 2017 6:30 pm

speedygonzales wrote:
StTim wrote:
How many neos have been delivered now?

103 A320 and 1 A321 at the end of April according to the Airbus O&D spreadsheet.

I'm counting another 9 deliveries this far for the month of May.

mariner · Thu May 25, 2017 6:45 pm

StTim wrote:
How many neos have been delivered now?

Any clues as to when they might start delivering the A319Neo?

mariner

KarelXWB · Thu May 25, 2017 9:52 pm

mariner wrote:
StTim wrote:
How many neos have been delivered now?

Any clues as to when they might start delivering the A319Neo?

mariner

Next year (2018).

KarelXWB · Fri May 26, 2017 7:49 am

Next up:

Airbus A320 -251N 7591 HS-CBB Thai AirAsia delivery 25-26may17 TLS-DWC-DMK ex F-WWDC

KarelXWB · Fri May 26, 2017 7:33 pm

And another Citilink A320neo delivered:

Airbus A320 -251N 7603 PK-GTE Citilink Express delivery 26-27may17 TLS-DWC-CMB-CGK ex F-WWBB

KarelXWB · Fri May 26, 2017 7:37 pm

Several A321neo on the move this week:

SriLankan Airlines MSN 7663:

A321-251N, SriLankan Airlines, D-AVYO (MSN 7663) by Mathias Düber, on Flickr

China Southern MSN 7548:

A321-271N, China Southern Airlines, D-AVXM (MSN 7548) by Mathias Düber, on Flickr

Air Astana MSN 7567:

A321-271N, Air Astana, D-AYAK (MSN 7567) by Mathias Düber, on Flickr

Wow Air MSN 7694:

A321-253N, WOW air, D-AZAA (MSN 7694) by Mathias Düber, on Flickr

Clipper101 · Fri May 26, 2017 9:00 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
Several A321neo on the move this week:

SriLankan Airlines MSN 7663:

A321-251N, SriLankan Airlines, D-AVYO (MSN 7663) by Mathias Düber, on Flickr

China Southern MSN 7548:

A321-271N, China Southern Airlines, D-AVXM (MSN 7548) by Mathias Düber, on Flickr

Air Astana MSN 7567:

A321-271N, Air Astana, D-AYAK (MSN 7567) by Mathias Düber, on Flickr

Wow Air MSN 7694:

A321-253N, WOW air, D-AZAA (MSN 7694) by Mathias Düber, on Flickr

Any news about cabin configuration for each of these A321neo's ?

anshabhi · Sun May 28, 2017 4:24 pm

UK adds more branding to its NEO:

after arrival in Delhi...

speedygonzales · Mon May 29, 2017 11:04 am

Two A321s on first flight today, 7548 for China Southern and 7663 for SriLankan:
https://www.flightradar24.com/AIB548A
https://www.flightradar24.com/AIB663A

KarelXWB · Mon May 29, 2017 11:22 am

SAS' next A320neo visible from the air in XFW:

#20170525-07 by Dirk Grothe | Aviation Photography, on Flickr

KarelXWB · Mon May 29, 2017 1:45 pm

speedygonzales wrote:
Two A321s on first flight today, 7548 for China Southern and 7663 for SriLankan:
https://www.flightradar24.com/AIB548A
https://www.flightradar24.com/AIB663A

MSN 7663, CFM powered, first flight today:

A321neo Sri Lankan 4R-ANC by Tobias Gudat, on Flickr

MSN 7548, P&W powered, first flight today:

A321 China Southern B-8369 by Tobias Gudat, on Flickr

KarelXWB · Tue May 30, 2017 9:02 am

Vistara applied some marketing decals to its first A320neo:

https://twitter.com/airvistara/status/8 ... 278257666/

TheGeordielad · Tue May 30, 2017 10:02 am

What's happening to C/N 6946?
(A320-271N)

KarelXWB · Tue May 30, 2017 10:04 am

TheGeordielad wrote:
What's happening to C/N 6946?
(A320-271N)

Rejected by Qatar Airways, reported to be taken up by IndiGo and joined MSN 6904 at DRS for unknown reasons.

mjoelnir · Tue May 30, 2017 10:26 am

KarelXWB wrote:
TheGeordielad wrote:
What's happening to C/N 6946?
(A320-271N)

Rejected by Qatar Airways, reported to be taken up by IndiGo and joined MSN 6904 at DRS for unknown reasons.

Airbus Group owns 65 % of Elbe Flugzeugwerke in Dresden. I assume refurbishing or painting will be done there.

speedygonzales · Tue May 30, 2017 10:42 am

KarelXWB wrote:
TheGeordielad wrote:
What's happening to C/N 6946?
(A320-271N)

Rejected by Qatar Airways, reported to be taken up by IndiGo and joined MSN 6904 at DRS for unknown reasons.

Engines are painted in IndiGo colors, so I think them taking it is confirmed:
https://xfw-spotter.blogspot.no/2017/02 ... 7-aje.html

TheGeordielad · Tue May 30, 2017 11:05 am

Thanks everyone.

KarelXWB · Tue May 30, 2017 5:16 pm

First easyJet A320neo maiden flight today:

F-WWIG by cliper31, on Flickr

DY789 · Tue May 30, 2017 10:36 pm

very much like EZY

Also, how many NEO's (both 320 & 321) do WOW have on order? Wasn't aware of any 321's.

anshabhi · Wed May 31, 2017 5:08 am

Here is an exclusive behind the scenes video of our special livery additions on our first @Airbus A320 Neo. #NotJustAnotherNeo
https://twitter.com/airvistara/status/8 ... 53/video/1

kelvin933 · Wed May 31, 2017 8:12 am

DY789 wrote:
very much like EZY Also, how many NEO's (both 320 & 321) do WOW have on order? Wasn't aware of any 321's.

5x A321 on order, to be delivered in June 2017 1xA321ceo MSN#7715 and 1xA321neo MSN#7694.
3x A321 to be delivered in H1 2018, 1xA321neo and 2xA321ceo.
All are from lessors ALC, CIT(now Avolon) and Bocom

pugman211 · Wed May 31, 2017 4:08 pm

No EasyJet A321's are gonna be ready in June 2017. Not unless they are coming through without the typical orange fairing anyway.

TheGeordielad · Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:28 am

First S7 Airlines A320NEO in new livery
https://www.flickr.com/photos/146519169 ... 987867566/

TheGeordielad · Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:30 am

3rd Vistara A320neo
https://www.flickr.com/photos/146519169 ... 896247451/

TheGeordielad · Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:32 am

Air Indias 6th A320neo VT-EXU has been delivered

KarelXWB · Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:33 am

TheGeordielad wrote:
Air Indias 6th A320neo VT-EXU has been delivered

=>

Airbus A320 -251N 7616 VT-EXU Air India delivery 01jun17 TLS-DEL ex F-WWDM

anshabhi · Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:52 pm

TheGeordielad wrote:
3rd Vistara A320neo
https://www.flickr.com/photos/146519169 ... 896247451/

ooohhh at this rate it feels like they will get all 6 by December, at the most instead of scheduled June 2018, which means earlier intl debut.

greg85 · Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:01 pm

No EasyJet A321's are gonna be ready in June 2017. Not unless they are coming through without the typical orange fairing anyway.

The easyJet A321s are over a year away from delivery at the moment.

KarelXWB · Mon Jun 05, 2017 3:07 pm

P&W confirmed that the bearing issue has been resolved.

Meanwhile, Chris Calio, president of Pratt & Whitney Commercial Engines, confirmed that the company has completed developing improved combustor lining material and an improved carbon air seal for the PW1100G-JM’s Number 3 bearing. Together, distressed carbon air seals and degraded combustor linings have led to approximately 50 premature removals of PW1100G-JM engines from A320neos, most of them operated by Indian carriers GoAir and Indigo. “We completed the full retrofit of [already] fitted engines on about 50 aircraft about three weeks ago,” said Calio. “The full suite of hardware and software fixes is in today’s [new] production PW1100G-JMs.”

The bearing failure was responsible for most engine replacements, this should increase reliability significantly.

P&W is still working on an improved combustion chamber.

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/ ... -fuel-burn

StTim · Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:08 pm

But isn't it the combustor that is limiting flight level that Indigo are using the neos at?

KarelXWB · Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:21 pm

StTim wrote:
But isn't it the combustor that is limiting flight level that Indigo are using the neos at?

The lower altitude was set in place to reduce stress on the number three bearing.

res77W · Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:25 pm

Is the combustor "shriek" referenced in the article the howling sound heard on takeoff?

-Rowen

KarelXWB · Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:52 pm

The next Frontier A320neo "Mia the Dolphin":

https://flic.kr/p/Uj1W1q
https://flic.kr/p/V1u72Q

KarelXWB · Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:15 am

EasyJet's first A320neo on a customer acceptance flight yesterday:

1st Airbus A320 Neo Easyjet G-UZHA by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr

winterlight · Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:27 am

KarelXWB wrote:
EasyJet's first A320neo on a customer acceptance flight yesterday:

1st Airbus A320 Neo Easyjet G-UZHA by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr

To be EZHA, surely?

lightsaber · Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:52 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
P&W confirmed that the bearing issue has been resolved.

Meanwhile, Chris Calio, president of Pratt & Whitney Commercial Engines, confirmed that the company has completed developing improved combustor lining material and an improved carbon air seal for the PW1100G-JM’s Number 3 bearing. Together, distressed carbon air seals and degraded combustor linings have led to approximately 50 premature removals of PW1100G-JM engines from A320neos, most of them operated by Indian carriers GoAir and Indigo. “We completed the full retrofit of [already] fitted engines on about 50 aircraft about three weeks ago,” said Calio. “The full suite of hardware and software fixes is in today’s [new] production PW1100G-JMs.”

The bearing failure was responsible for most engine replacements, this should increase reliability significantly.

P&W is still working on an improved combustion chamber.

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/ ... -fuel-burn

Pratt needed to get this behind them to ship the engines! These issues were consuming parts at a high rate. Oh course, that means the fan blade production then becomes the true limit on quantities out the door. Ugh! I'm still a Pratt fan, but this has been a challenge. At least the fuel burn has been excellent.

(But airlines care more about dispatch reliability and the rate of pulling off engines has been ridiculous).

The fuel burn cuts will put the PW1100G far ahead of the leap:
1. New low turbine (requires the new casing), most of the first PIPs almost 2% reduction in fuel burn
2. CMC turbine blades (a big improvement). Thanks to the same type of blades in the JSF.

I'm not happy 'cautiously optimistic' about ETOPS in the 4th quarter. That is too much hedging... At least the changes are going out in production engines.

Any news on when the LEAP is scheduled to be certified for ETOPS?

Lightsaber

greg85 · Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:21 pm

To be EZHA, surely?

Incredibly, no. It will be UZHA. Just to upset those of you with OCD.

VirginFlyer · Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:00 pm

greg85 wrote:
To be EZHA, surely?

Incredibly, no. It will be UZHA. Just to upset those of you with OCD.

It's actually pretty clever. EasyJet's IATA code is U2. U2 -> UZ.

V/F

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