Airbus A320neo family production thread - 2015-2017 (part 7)

winterlight · Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:37 pm

Who are Chile's Sky Airlines leasing their A320s from?

freqflyer · Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:32 pm

Did not see this posted : Please delete if I have missed it

IndiGo sets 30,000 feet altitude limit for Airbus A320neos to reduce engine strain

http://www.livemint.com/Companies/6vsfh ... eo-pl.html

reidar76 · Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:46 pm

freqflyer wrote:
Did not see this posted : Please delete if I have missed it

IndiGo sets 30,000 feet altitude limit for Airbus A320neos to reduce engine strain

http://www.livemint.com/Companies/6vsfh ... eo-pl.html

Today it is 1 year and 4 months since the A320 with the PW1000G was certified.

All these continuing problems are worrisome.

ikolkyo · Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:51 pm

I really wonder how the next new engine from a Pratt gets perceived..

rbrunner · Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:46 pm

What is the reason for this? To reduce engine strain? In spite of the fuel penalty? As far as I've seen on flightradar24, other airlines operating the neo fly at higher altitudes. Is the engine still not performing?

KarelXWB · Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:44 pm

sirtoby wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
And now the CFM powered A321neo received joined EASA/FAA type certification:

http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/news-e ... ification/

What the hell happened to noise performance of the LEAP-1A? It's even worse than the CFM56! Maybe typos???

https://www.easa.europa.eu/system/files ... ssue10.pdf

Noise levels were wrong, EASA just issued an update:

28 March 2017 - Revised noise levels for models A321-251N and -253N

https://www.easa.europa.eu/system/files ... ssue12.pdf

Someone83 · Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:32 am

Another delivery to Azul, should be their 8th

Airbus A320 -251N 7521 PR-YRI Azul Linhas Aéreas delivery 29mar17 TLS-SID-CNF ex F-WWDQ

KarelXWB · Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:50 pm

Interjet's first A320neo (MSN 7523) made its first flight today:

https://flic.kr/p/S6BJGN

keesje · Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:18 am

When is the first production A321neo powered by CFM International’s LEAP-1A engines scheduled to be delivered?

KarelXWB · Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:51 am

At the end of May I believe.

starbucks · Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:07 am

KarelXWB wrote:
At the end of May I believe.

This Tweet from early March says "Late April"
https://twitter.com/e_russell/status/839204163569532929

If true we should be seeing the first roll out with engines fitted soon

KarelXWB · Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:40 am

Next P&W delivery:

Airbus A320 -271N 7470 B-8673 China Southern delivery 30mar17 TLS-TSE ex F-WWIM

pdxswa · Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:18 pm

Champ the Bronco taxiing out at PDX in some wonderful evening light.

KarelXWB · Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:03 pm

The A319neo got its engines installed:

9C9B0508 by Mathias Düber, on Flickr

9C9B0499 by Mathias Düber, on Flickr

817Dreamliiner · Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:13 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
The A319neo got its engines installed:

9C9B0508 by Mathias Düber, on Flickr

9C9B0499 by Mathias Düber, on Flickr

Wasn't this frame supposed to have PW engines?

KarelXWB · Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:16 pm

I'd guess there are no P&W customers for the A319neo.

ikolkyo · Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:22 pm

Guess that means some of the current A319neo orders are standing, particularly Frontiers.

sirtoby · Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:46 pm

ikolkyo wrote:
Guess that means some of the current A319neo orders are standing, particularly Frontiers.

I guess Avianca and the big there chinese airlines. F9 will go for A321neo's instead I think.

Polot · Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:21 pm

I'm not sure you read all that much into the state of any of the current A319neo orders from this (other than the early customers definitely wont be PW). The A319neo was already built, and Airbus has completed or is just about to complete A320neo and A321neo certification for both CFM and PW...so onwards to the remaining A319.

Roboman · Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:26 am

A319Neo First Flight...

https://www.flightradar24.com/AIB01WA/ce8b563

HtC · Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:09 am

A picture of the takeoff:

A319-151N Airbus D-AVWA MSN6464 by Hendrik S, auf Flickr

RalXWB · Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:16 am

The baby bus is a little overpowered... :weightlifter:

N14AZ · Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:22 am

RalXWB wrote:
The baby bus is a little overpowered...

Looks a little bit strange, A318-esque... But anyhow, I hope they had a good FF. Good weather in Hamburg today ...

LSZH34 · Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:38 am

The A319neo is an absolute stunner! My favourite of the 3

KarelXWB · Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:42 am

Next SAS delivery:

Airbus A320 -251N 7499 SE-DOY SAS delivery 31mar17 XFW-ARN ex D-AVVT

KarelXWB · Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:43 am

starbucks wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
At the end of May I believe.

This Tweet from early March says "Late April"
https://twitter.com/e_russell/status/839204163569532929

If true we should be seeing the first roll out with engines fitted soon

Ah yes, thanks. I must have been confused with the EIS which is set for May, with a delivery at the end of April.

fabian9 · Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:22 pm

MSN6464 now landed in TLS.

KarelXWB · Sat Apr 01, 2017 10:55 am

fabian9 wrote:
MSN6464 now landed in TLS.

=>

1st flight Airbus A319 neo D-AVWA by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr

KarelXWB · Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:06 am

Airbus tweeted several photos of the A319neo first flight. If you look closely, one of the Virgin America A321neos got its engines fitted:

Someone83 · Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:08 am

Do you know the MSN of the SAS NEO behind the Virgin aircraft?

KarelXWB · Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:12 am

I have no idea.

KarelXWB · Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:31 am

Next delivery:

Airbus A320 -251N 7535 4R-ANB Sri Lankan delivery 01apr17 TLS-DXB-CMB ex F-WWIQ

320.251-NEO SRILANKAN AIRLINES 4R-ANB 7535 DELIVERY FLIGHT 01 04 17 TLS by L'AMI DU TARMAC, on Flickr

lightsaber · Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:24 pm

N14AZ wrote:
RalXWB wrote:
The baby bus is a little overpowered...

Looks a little bit strange, A318-esque... But anyhow, I hope they had a good FF. Good weather in Hamburg today ...

Yes it does. How perceptions change.

The reality is the new engines are heavy. That weight has less impact on larger frames and thus the economics of the larger frames improve more than the shorter. So while I now 'eat crow' in that there will be A319NEOs delivered (all LEAP apparently...), I still think Airbus will lose money on the limited engineering/production costs but mostly the cost of flight testing.

I'm personally amazed any airlines are accepting A319s. There are *many* posts of mine predicting that the A319 would be cancelled. Look at how how *tiny* the ACJ orderbook is too, with no A32X ACJs delivered in 2016 as customers are waiting for the NEOs; peak year deliveries are only single digit after 2010.
Last year Boeing delivered one narrow isle BBJ (and two corporate 738s, but those will have far more seats than a BBJ).

GAMA has a great pdf on business jet deliveries (see top of page 13 for Airbus):
https://gama.aero/wp-content/uploads/20 ... forWeb.pdf

Lightsaber

KarelXWB · Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:40 pm

Here's a better photo of Virgin America's first A321neo:

DAYAL 7589 VRD by xfwspot, on Flickr

keesje · Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:58 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
Here's a better photo of Virgin America's first A321neo:

DAYAL 7589 VRD by xfwspot, on Flickr

Will A321 become the first Airbus in Alaska colors? Flying side by side with 737-9. W'll have to wait to see which one stays.

mariner · Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:44 pm

HtC wrote:
A picture of the takeoff:
A319-151N Airbus D-AVWA MSN6464 by Hendrik S, auf Flickr

It's the cutest thing - LOL.

I hope Frontier puts the smaller, cuddlier animals on the tails, as they started to do with the Q400's.

mariner

SCAT15F · Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:10 pm

LSZH34 wrote:
The A319neo is an absolute stunner! My favourite of the 3

Agreed. Wish they would have done the A318neo though...

gatibosgru · Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:17 pm

That VX A321 loos sexy

KarelXWB · Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:13 pm

The VX A3210neo started taxi tests today.

A321neo Virigin America N921VA by Tobias Gudat, on Flickr

KarelXWB · Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:44 pm

Frontier's next A320neo: Weston the Woodpecker.

AIRBUS A320-251NEO FRONTIER AIRLINES F-WWDE MSN7555 (N309FR) A L'AEROPORT TOULOUSE-BLAGNAC LE 03 04 17 by Jérémy Le roch, on Flickr

KarelXWB · Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:49 pm

The A319neo performed a second flight today.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/d-avwa

anshabhi · Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:22 am

Is some Vistara A320Neo under construction in TLS?
I just heard Vistara is getting its first neo next week, will become the 4th Indian NEO operator..

Someone83 · Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:38 am

anshabhi wrote:
Is some Vistara A320Neo under construction in TLS?
I just heard Vistara is getting its first neo next week, will become the 4th Indian NEO operator..

Yes, but still missing engines 3 days ago, so delivery next week is unlikely

http://a380.boards.net/thread/1838/vistara-a320neos

anshabhi · Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:44 am

Someone83 wrote:
anshabhi wrote:
Is some Vistara A320Neo under construction in TLS?
I just heard Vistara is getting its first neo next week, will become the 4th Indian NEO operator..

Yes, but still missing engines 3 days ago, so delivery next week is unlikely

http://a380.boards.net/thread/1838/vistara-a320neos

thanks for the info.. Their CSCO is going to TLS this week, to receive the first NEO:

https://t.co/NttL5Yv8XI

KarelXWB · Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:18 am

Flo the Flamingo has been delivered:

Airbus A320 -251N 7538 N308FR Frontier Airlines delivery 06apr17 XFW-YYR-TPA "Flo the Flamingo" ex D-AVVY

Frontier, N308FR,MSN 7538, Airbus A 320-251N(SL), 04.04.2017, XFW-EDHI, Hamburg-Finkenwerder by Henryk Konrad, on Flickr

And another one for Air India:

Airbus A320 -251N 7526 VT-CIE Air India delivery 05apr17 TLS-DEL ex F-WWIH

KarelXWB · Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:43 pm

Tianjin Airlines MSN 7533 (P&W powered) seen around at the delivery entre:

Tianjin A/L A320-271N msn 7533 by dn280tls, on Flickr

Frontier's next A320neo, Weston the Woodpecker (CFM powered), was also spotted around the same area:

Frontier A320-251N msn 7555 by dn280tls, on Flickr

LittleOwl · Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:48 am

Here is some footage of yesterday's first flight of Virgin America's A321neo in quite windy conditions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Zi_N66Mcw

jetlife2 · Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:51 pm

LittleOwl wrote:
Here is some footage of yesterday's first flight of Virgin America's A321neo in quite windy conditions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Zi_N66Mcw

Thanks for posting this. I will pass it to others in CFM

TheGeordielad · Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:13 pm

Pratt and Whitney a320neo sales I'm guessing could be affected with the engine problems.
Have they been fixed yet?

TheGeordielad · Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:16 pm

The A319 NEO looks cute even with them ridiculous engines looking so god damm big on it.

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