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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:23 pm

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As QF will configure its 789, what will the maximum payload range be? 14,100 km?


I would also like to know the answer to this.

I am sure it was discussed in the Qantas 787 dedicated threads but it will be difficult to locate.

If anyone can answer this question here or direct us to the relevant thread post where it is discussed and answered, it will be greatly appreciated.
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:05 am

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As QF will configure its 789, what will the maximum payload range be? 14,100 km?


I would also like to know the answer to this.

I am sure it was discussed in the Qantas 787 dedicated threads but it will be difficult to locate.

If anyone can answer this question here or direct us to the relevant thread post where it is discussed and answered, it will be greatly appreciated.


PER-LHR is 14,500kms (7829nm), from what I can remember when the route was first announced QF said the flight may take a small payload hit at certain times of the year

Here is the thread on PER-LHR

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1349721&start=250
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:18 am

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B752OS wrote:
As QF will configure its 789, what will the maximum payload range be? 14,100 km?


I would also like to know the answer to this.

I am sure it was discussed in the Qantas 787 dedicated threads but it will be difficult to locate.

If anyone can answer this question here or direct us to the relevant thread post where it is discussed and answered, it will be greatly appreciated.


PER-LHR is 14,500kms (7829nm), from what I can remember when the route was first announced QF said the flight may take a small payload hit at certain times of the year

Here is the thread on PER-LHR

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1349721&start=250


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Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:07 am

Here are some exclusive cabin photos of the 787-10 testbed:

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Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:08 pm

Air New Zealand ZK-NZL has been delivered

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ANZ6 ... /KCHS/NZAA

This is the first 789 for NZ to be delivered in a more premium layout, 27J33W215Y versus current layout of 18J21W263Y
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Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:28 pm

Air New Zealand ZK-NZL operating on its delivery flight CHS-AKL has diverted to IAH

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/zk-nzl
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Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:19 pm

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Air New Zealand ZK-NZL operating on its delivery flight CHS-AKL has diverted to IAH

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/zk-nzl


I see another flight to continue onto AKL is already up.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ANZ ... /KIAH/NZAA

I wonder if they made a fuel stop and are also using this flight to compare the aircraft against the 772 that currently flies the AKL-IAH route. Although the 789 has no passengers aboard.
 
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Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:35 pm

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Air New Zealand ZK-NZL operating on its delivery flight CHS-AKL has diverted to IAH

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/zk-nzl


I see another flight to continue onto AKL is already up.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ANZ ... /KIAH/NZAA

I wonder if they made a fuel stop and are also using this flight to compare the aircraft against the 772 that currently flies the AKL-IAH route. Although the 789 has no passengers aboard.


Probably a change of crew as well, the direct flight from CHS-AKL was just over 7200nm and about 17 and half hours flying time. Not sure about the comparing of the 772 to 789 as this very aircraft will be on the IAH route from December

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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:50 pm

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Air New Zealand ZK-NZL operating on its delivery flight CHS-AKL has diverted to IAH

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/zk-nzl


I see another flight to continue onto AKL is already up.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ANZ ... /KIAH/NZAA

I wonder if they made a fuel stop and are also using this flight to compare the aircraft against the 772 that currently flies the AKL-IAH route. Although the 789 has no passengers aboard.


Probably a change of crew as well, the direct flight from CHS-AKL was just over 7200nm and about 17 and half hours flying time. Not sure about the comparing of the 772 to 789 as this very aircraft will be on the IAH route from December

http://www.airnztravelagent.com/air-new ... land-route


I was expecting the 789 to be on this route eventually, looks like I missed the announcement,
 
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Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:33 am

Qantas 789 VH-ZNA returning to PAE after C1 flight

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Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:39 am

EL Al 789 4X-EDB will be moved to Everett delivery center overnight

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Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:47 am

Air India 788 VT-NAC returning to PAE after a test flight

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Hainan 789 LN628 at Everett 40-51 apron

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Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:49 am

Some more photos of Qantas 789 VH-ZNA returning from C1 flight

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Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:53 am

Qantas 789 VH-ZNA undergoing high speed taxi test after stowing RAT

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Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:18 pm

Air New Zealand 789 ZK-NZL is now continuing delivery flight, just left IAH

https://www.flightradar24.com/ANZ6094/f218501
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Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:46 pm

Air India 788 VT-NAC on another customer acceptance flight

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Sun Oct 08, 2017 5:39 pm

El Al 789 4X-EDB has been delivered

https://www.flightradar24.com/ELY2789/f241e67
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Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:09 pm

Etihad 789 A6-BLR taxi test and B1 flight

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Etihad 789 A6-BLR taxi test and B1 flight

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Does EY have 2 class cabin on their Dreamliners ? Or is it a 3 class ?
 
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Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:56 pm

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Etihad 789 A6-BLR taxi test and B1 flight

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https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/917086335776653312

Does EY have 2 class cabin on their Dreamliners ? Or is it a 3 class ?


Both.
 
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Etihad 789 A6-BLR taxi test and B1 flight

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https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/917086335776653312

Does EY have 2 class cabin on their Dreamliners ? Or is it a 3 class ?


Both.


3 class configured 8F26J195Y
2 class configured 28J271Y

There are 5 in the 3 class config (A6-BLA to BLE) the rest are 2 class
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Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:57 pm

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Does EY have 2 class cabin on their Dreamliners ? Or is it a 3 class ?


Both.


3 class configured 8F26J195Y
2 class configured 28J271Y

There are 5 in the 3 class config (A6-BLA to BLE) the rest are 2 class


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Was there a change in heart or something?


EY operates two class 777-300ERs and their A330-200 fleet appears to be all two-class (their A330-300s are all three-class) so I am guessing they will operate the 787-9 on a mix of routes, some that can support a First Class cabin and others that cannot.
 
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Etihad 789 A6-BLR taxi test and B1 flight

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What an amazing picture! Thanks for sharing.
 
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Air Canada 789 C-FSBV has had its first flight

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Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:10 am

We have now the first two registrations for the UX B789's......will be EC-MTI and EC-MSZ
 
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Delivery plan for VH-ZNA

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Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:02 am

Ethiopian's first 789 ET-AUO named Beijing has undergone a taxi test though first flight (B1) has been delayed

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Ethiopian's first 789 ET-AUO named Beijing has undergone a taxi test though first flight (B1) has been delayed

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Does anyone know why Ethiopean chose RR for their B789's rather than GE that powered their B788's? I remember that subsequent to the B788 purchase they bought some of the "terrible teens" that happened to be RR equiped, but i'd have assumed they'd have gone back to GE for this latest purchase.
 
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Does anyone know why Ethiopean chose RR for their B789's rather than GE that powered their B788's?


It likely comes down to the deal each engine manufacturer offered, but the RR will have a bit of an advantage in this application. Takeoff performance limitations out of ADD mean that ET's 787-9s will usually fly shorter Africa/Europe routes. For fuel consumption, the RR engine is at its strongest on shorter missions, while the GE pulls ahead on long-haul.
 
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Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:14 am

Air India 788 VT-NAC at Everett Delivery center

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Aircraft has since been delivered

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787 Production Spreadsheets updated up to LN 780

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Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:49 pm

Hainan Airlines 789 B-1499 on another test flight

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Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:28 pm

Let me try one more time. Can anyone tell me why Line #19 has not delivered as it was scheduled to be delivered 30 Sept
 
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Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:02 pm

I believe it was delivered, it just hasn't taken its delivery flight yet
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Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:07 pm

Well no 787 was delivered on Sept 30. Only 787-8 delivered in September was BA's on the 26th. Granted if it got delayed by even a mere day the delivery won't yet be up on Boeing's website to confirm.
 
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Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:22 pm

I doubt that anyone in the know is allowed to answer, especially with deliveries to private customers like this one. I would also not pay too much attention to these indicative last of the month delivery dates, it's just an indication that it could be delivered that month. But if it's the next month it's not really an issue, it's not like the customer has already planned scheduled flights with this plane. Do we even know who the customer is? NYC777 production sheet lists RTX, that doesn't really tell us who they actually are.
 
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Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:03 pm

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Does anyone know why Ethiopean chose RR for their B789's rather than GE that powered their B788's?


It likely comes down to the deal each engine manufacturer offered, but the RR will have a bit of an advantage in this application. Takeoff performance limitations out of ADD mean that ET's 787-9s will usually fly shorter Africa/Europe routes. For fuel consumption, the RR engine is at its strongest on shorter missions, while the GE pulls ahead on long-haul.


Thanks for the reply seabosdca. As far as i'm aware Ethiopean are the only operator running both engine types on the same B787, so they would be in receipt of some very interesting comparative data for the Trent 1000 & GEnx.
 
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Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:35 am

First 787-10 in Singapore Airlines livery has rolled out of paint, 9V-SCB

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Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:47 am

I find it somewhat interesting that the 787-10 retains the double-bogey main landing-gear, while the A350-10 has a triple-bogey main landing-gear. I wonder how much more each version of the-10s weigh compared with the -9s. Of course Boeing has the 788 also which is lighter still!
 
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Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:26 am

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I find it somewhat interesting that the 787-10 retains the double-bogey main landing-gear, while the A350-10 has a triple-bogey main landing-gear. I wonder how much more each version of the-10s weigh compared with the -9s. Of course Boeing has the 788 also which is lighter still!


787-10 is a A350-900 size plane, not A350-1000.
 
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Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:48 am

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First 787-10 in Singapore Airlines livery has rolled out of paint, 9V-SCB

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I wonder why SQ opted to keep the engines of the 78X white rather than grey like the rest of their fleet?

I remember reading early on that Boeing recommended airlines use white or grey for engine nacelles for performance reasons. However, many airlines have chosen instead to paint their 787's in full livery engines and all. Is there data that shows that airlines with white or grey (UA,NZ,SQ) nacelles are getting better performance than airlines with painted nacelles (AA, VS, VN) ?

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Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:09 am

WOW, I honestly did not expect this to see until early 2018, but man 787-10 is really a beauty

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