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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:53 pm

Looks like it's exactly the same (absolute) size as the one on the 777, even though the 787 is a smaller plane.
 
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Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:01 am

It looks great!
 
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:07 pm

Anyone able to help here? The fantastic All Things 787 is listing the following:

535 ZA675 37512 N790AV 787-8 AVI Avianca

However, CN 37512 has already been taken by a Ryanair 737:

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... YV-Ryanair

Can anyone share insight into the correct construction number for the Avianca?
 
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Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:21 pm

Since Avianca's current 9 787's have the serial 37502-37510, I would presume that Uresh, the guy who runs Allthings787, just continued with the serials in that order. So I would guess that Avianca will just leave out 37512 and will continue on with 37513.
 
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Sat Oct 22, 2016 4:10 pm

NG263 wrote:
Since Avianca's current 9 787's have the serial 37502-37510, I would presume that Uresh, the guy who runs Allthings787, just continued with the serials in that order. So I would guess that Avianca will just leave out 37512 and will continue on with 37513.


I'm sure his data is far more than just 'guesswork', I was thinking more along the lines that there's just an error or typo on this one somewhere along the way.

Ryanair have the CNs 37512 through to 37543, so it won't be 37513...

Additionally, Avianca ordered their 787s in batches of (10) (2) and (3), the 10 original 787s are CNs 37502-37511 so these should be completely new sets of CNs

[Edit: I've just seen Planespotters.net is now showing this aircraft as 39406 https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... /N-Avianca
 
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Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:42 pm

I never meant to question Uresh's work as 'guesswork', he's doing a great job. That was just an idea and I never said that I am sure on that nor that I did research on this...
 
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Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:26 pm

Boeing will deliver the first 787-10 to Singapore Airlines in May 2018:

http://nyc787.blogspot.com/2016/10/sing ... t-787.html
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Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:05 am

ANA's newest 787-9 JA886A returned to PAE after its right engine failed, while on its delivery flight to HND

https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/791078245961568256
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Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:45 am

817Dreamliiner wrote:
ANA's newest 787-9 JA886A returned to PAE after its right engine failed, while on its delivery flight to HND

https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/791078245961568256


This is bad news considering ANA`s previous RR Trent 1000 problems re internal blade corrosion
issues. Should RR be worried? Could there be some kind quality of control problem, or would it be
more likely something was missed when the power plant`s were installed? With a huge order for
their engines from such a customer isn`t it doubly important to be sure that everything is done to
be sure that occurrence`s like this don`t happen. I understand that anything mechanical, particularly
something so complicated as a turbofan can go wrong at anytime, but you`d imagine well used
procedures would be in place for this not to occur.
 
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Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:40 pm

Tedd wrote:
817Dreamliiner wrote:
ANA's newest 787-9 JA886A returned to PAE after its right engine failed, while on its delivery flight to HND

Could there be some kind quality of control problem, or would it be more likely something was missed when the power plant`s were installed?


RR has had QA issues with the Trent 1000 series over the years (with ANA being bit particularly by them). The plane would have had at least one B(Boeing) and one C(customer) flight before delivery, so if it was an installation issue perhaps the odds would have favored it having occurred during one of those.
 
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Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:54 pm

Anyone has any idea what's taking LN17 so long to return from VCV?
 
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Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:54 pm

The issue with JA886A probably wasn't serious as according to Woodys Aeroimages, its back at the delivery centre and scheduled to go out again later today.

https://twitter.com/woody2190/status/791316758011400193
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Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:47 pm

Thank you for he replies. If the engine problem turns out to be something minor then hopefully
ANA won`t be too inconvenienced by the delay. Embarrassing for Boeing & particularly RR though.
I hope the 2nd delivery goes sweetly for them.
 
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Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:35 am

jeffrey0032j wrote:
Anyone has any idea what's taking LN17 so long to return from VCV?


It hasn't been there unusually long at this point. The frames have been staying there for a month or slightly longer. If it's not back in another week, then it will start to seem too long.

The 11/4 delivery date on All Things is clearly a placeholder -- expect delivery sometime in November.
 
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Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:02 am

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The issue with JA886A probably wasn't serious as according to Woodys Aeroimages, its back at the delivery centre and scheduled to go out again later today.


Currently two hours out of PAE (off southern Alaska): http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ANA9 ... /KPAE/RJTT
 
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Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:19 am

NYC777 wrote:
Boeing will deliver the first 787-10 to Singapore Airlines in May 2018:

http://nyc787.blogspot.com/2016/10/sing ... t-787.html

What is the status of the -10 prototype?
 
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Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:23 am

The mid-body section is currently in pre-assembly at Charleston.
Close, but no cigar http://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK
 
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Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:51 am

KarelXWB wrote:
The mid-body section is currently in pre-assembly at Charleston.


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Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:21 am

817Dreamliiner wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
The mid-body section is currently in pre-assembly at Charleston.


https://twitter.com/B787fans/status/791591135173115905

Woaw, that's a pretty loooooooong mid-body section, and the picture is not even showing the entire section...
Thanks for sharing

Hehe, and they even thought already about recyling.... ;-)
 
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Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:27 pm

N14AZ wrote:
[quoted="817Dreamliiner"]
KarelXWB wrote:
The mid-body section is currently in pre-assembly at Charleston.


https://twitter.com/B787fans/status/791591135173115905

Woaw, that's a pretty loooooooong mid-body section, and the picture is not even showing the entire section...
Thanks for sharing

Hehe, and they even thought already about recyling.... ;-)[/quote]
Now why didn't Boeing think that was rail or air transportable? ;)

I'm convinced the 787-10 will sell well. I just think an engine/airframes short field PIP is rrequired to accelerate sales. Note:. For hot/high and wear&tear concerns, not for true short fields. It has advantages over theA339 & 787-10 for TATL+ range missions. Not far Asia to Europe nor TPAC, but enough of a market to sell for 15 more years or so.

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Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:06 pm

Tedd wrote:
Thank you for he replies. If the engine problem turns out to be something minor then hopefully
ANA won`t be too inconvenienced by the delay. Embarrassing for Boeing & particularly RR though.
I hope the 2nd delivery goes sweetly for them.


Yes, but relatively few people would even have a clue that they had a turn-back on delivery.
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Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:27 pm

Another teen left the nest: LN15 has been delivered to Air Austral.

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Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:22 pm

Good luck to Air Austral & their latest addition. I don`t usually criticise liveries,
but to me their logo on the engine is superfluous, & placement of the RR logo
ridiculous. We`re used to seeing all engine make logo`s toward the front. IMHO
it would have been far better just to have left the RR off, or better still lose their
logo & locate the RR in the proper position!
 
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Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:09 pm

Tedd wrote:
Good luck to Air Austral & their latest addition. I don`t usually criticise liveries,
but to me their logo on the engine is superfluous, & placement of the RR logo
ridiculous. We`re used to seeing all engine make logo`s toward the front. IMHO
it would have been far better just to have left the RR off, or better still lose their
logo & locate the RR in the proper position!


Maybe the placement of the RR logo isn't chosen that well but honestly who cares? Just look at the tail, best livery ever in my opinion!
 
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Sat Oct 29, 2016 12:13 am

NG263 wrote:
Tedd wrote:
Good luck to Air Austral & their latest addition. I don`t usually criticise liveries,
but to me their logo on the engine is superfluous, & placement of the RR logo
ridiculous. We`re used to seeing all engine make logo`s toward the front. IMHO
it would have been far better just to have left the RR off, or better still lose their
logo & locate the RR in the proper position!


Maybe the placement of the RR logo isn't chosen that well but honestly who cares? Just look at the tail, best livery ever in my opinion!


Sorry, don`t like the tail either, but if I did, it would still be spoilt by the engine cowl mess.
I just think whoever did it probably didn`t "care" about the attention to detail, but at the end
of the day if Air Austral are happy, then that's all that matters. Just my 2 cents worth......
& that ain`t worth much!
 
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Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:17 pm

Kama Scootra 9V-OFG arriving for paint.
 
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Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:00 pm

Can anyone give me an estimate of when the first EL AL 789 will be delivered?
 
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Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:04 pm

kaitak wrote:
Can anyone give me an estimate of when the first EL AL 789 will be delivered?

End of July 2017 for LN590 according to the spreadsheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... utput=html
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Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:00 pm

Second Aeromexico 787-9 LN502 in full livery (first one to be painted in regular livery)

ImageN183AM Aeroméxico Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner - C/N 60285 / LN 502 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

Third Aeromexico LN507 was rolled out

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Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:57 pm

Is there any airline yet to received their first 787?
other than AF
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Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:11 pm

nimool wrote:
Is there any airline yet to received their first 787?
other than AF


Jet Airways (787-9)
Delta (787-8) order brought over from merger with Northwest..deferred, doubtful it ever happens
Air Tahiti Nui (787-9)
Aeroflot (787-8 & 787-9) cancelled the 787-8, chances are slim they take the 787-9
Air Astana (787-8)
Air Niugini (787-8)
Biman Bangladesh Airlines (787-8)
Arik Air (787-9) ...this will never happen
Gulf Air (787-9)
El AL (787-9)
Qantas (787-9 & 787-9) Technically, they don't count because Jetstar (787-8) received theirs already
Singapore (787-10) Technically, they don't count because Scoot (787-8 & 787-9) received theirs already
EVA Air (787-10)
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Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:19 pm

The Aeroflot slots have been transferred to some local lessor.
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Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:34 pm

piedmontf284000 wrote:
nimool wrote:
Is there any airline yet to received their first 787?
other than AF


Jet Airways (787-9)
Delta (787-8) order brought over from merger with Northwest..deferred, doubtful it ever happens
Air Tahiti Nui (787-9)
Aeroflot (787-8 & 787-9) cancelled the 787-8, chances are slim they take the 787-9
Air Astana (787-8)
Air Niugini (787-8)
Biman Bangladesh Airlines (787-8)
Arik Air (787-9) ...this will never happen
Gulf Air (787-9)
El AL (787-9)
Singapore (787-10)
EVA Air (787-10)


What about Qantas or Icelandair?
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Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:40 pm

ek241yyz wrote:
piedmontf284000 wrote:
nimool wrote:
Is there any airline yet to received their first 787?
other than AF


Jet Airways (787-9)
Delta (787-8) order brought over from merger with Northwest..deferred, doubtful it ever happens
Air Tahiti Nui (787-9)
Aeroflot (787-8 & 787-9) cancelled the 787-8, chances are slim they take the 787-9
Air Astana (787-8)
Air Niugini (787-8)
Biman Bangladesh Airlines (787-8)
Arik Air (787-9) ...this will never happen
Gulf Air (787-9)
El AL (787-9)
Singapore (787-10)
EVA Air (787-10)


What about Qantas or Icelandair?


I just updated my post, sorry. Qantas techinally received some already because they own Jetstar. However in actual livery, no Qantas has not yet received any. Icleandair has one on order. Doubtful they will never take this airplane. They will most likely convert to an order for something else.
 
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Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:11 am

Aeroflot
Air Astana
Air France
Air Niugini
Air Tahiti Nui
ALAFCO
ALC
Arik Air
Aviation Capital Group
Avolon
Biman Bangladesh Airlines
China Eastern Airlines
CIT Leasing Corporation
Delta Air Lines
El Al
Etihad Airways
Eva Air
GECAS
Gulf Air
Icelandair
Jet Airways
Korean Air
QANTAS
Republic of Iraq
Ruili Airlines
Singapore Airlines
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Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:54 am

NYC777 wrote:
Aeroflot
Air Astana
Air France
Air Niugini
Air Tahiti Nui
ALAFCO
ALC
Arik Air
Aviation Capital Group
Avolon
Biman Bangladesh Airlines
China Eastern Airlines
CIT Leasing Corporation
Delta Air Lines
El Al
Etihad Airways
Eva Air
GECAS
Gulf Air
Icelandair
Jet Airways
Korean Air
QANTAS
Republic of Iraq
Ruili Airlines
Singapore Airlines


I'm pretty sure Etihad already has a couple of 787's in their fleet, I saw one at AMS last week :P
 
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Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:55 pm

piedmontf284000 wrote:
ek241yyz wrote:
piedmontf284000 wrote:

Jet Airways (787-9)
Delta (787-8) order brought over from merger with Northwest..deferred, doubtful it ever happens
Air Tahiti Nui (787-9)
Aeroflot (787-8 & 787-9) cancelled the 787-8, chances are slim they take the 787-9
Air Astana (787-8)
Air Niugini (787-8)
Biman Bangladesh Airlines (787-8)
Arik Air (787-9) ...this will never happen
Gulf Air (787-9)
El AL (787-9)
Singapore (787-10)
EVA Air (787-10)


What about Qantas or Icelandair?


I just updated my post, sorry. Qantas techinally received some already because they own Jetstar. However in actual livery, no Qantas has not yet received any. Icleandair has one on order. Doubtful they will never take this airplane. They will most likely convert to an order for something else.


The Icelandair order is reported in the earlier iterations of this thread to be leased out to other airlines as part of their leasing business. They did the same for their 757s and 767s, even when they didn't had a single 767 in their mainline fleet for over a decade until recently.
 
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Mon Oct 31, 2016 5:42 pm

piedmontf284000 wrote:
nimool wrote:
Is there any airline yet to received their first 787?
other than AF


Jet Airways (787-9)
Delta (787-8) order brought over from merger with Northwest..deferred, doubtful it ever happens
Air Tahiti Nui (787-9)
Aeroflot (787-8 & 787-9) cancelled the 787-8, chances are slim they take the 787-9
Air Astana (787-8)
Air Niugini (787-8)
Biman Bangladesh Airlines (787-8)
Arik Air (787-9) ...this will never happen
Gulf Air (787-9)
El AL (787-9)
Qantas (787-9 & 787-9) Technically, they don't count because Jetstar (787-8) received theirs already
Singapore (787-10) Technically, they don't count because Scoot (787-8 & 787-9) received theirs already
EVA Air (787-10)


Wow theres a big list, I thought almost, all those airlines that had the 787 on order had received at least one. There must be a big waiting list then for other airlines if they come up with new 787 orders?
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Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:16 pm

[quote="JeremyB"I'm pretty sure Etihad already has a couple of 787's in their fleet, I saw one at AMS last week :P[/quote]
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Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:46 am

jeffrey0032j wrote:
The Icelandair order is reported in the earlier iterations of this thread to be leased out to other airlines as part of their leasing business. They did the same for their 757s and 767s, even when they didn't had a single 767 in their mainline fleet for over a decade until recently.

Actually that is only partially accurate. if you read the Icelandair financial disclosure, you'll notice that the 787 listed as belonging to Icelandair was transferred out of Icelandair a few years back during the airline's restructuring. It is now owned by a financial vehicle in Iceland that yes has plans to lease it upon delivery in 2018. The lease was originally secured with Air Niugini to replace a 767 currently on lease from Icelandair but rumours are that the deal with Air Niugini is dead in light of Niugini's 737max order (which supposedly includes the conversion of Niugini's own single order for a 788 into 737max). Apparently the Max can reach all of Air Niugini's destinations and is more appropriately sized for the airline's business. I digress. The reason why the order still appears under Icelandair is because Icelandair provided financial guarantees to Boeing during its restructuring about this 788 order to the Iceland financial vehicle. Once the Iceland financial vehicle completes the purchase of the 788 next year, Icelandair's guarantee will lapse and the frame will appear under its actual owner. Should the Iceland financial vehicle fail to come up with the funds to pay for it, Icelandair will be on the hook.
 
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Tue Nov 01, 2016 8:51 pm

LN 17 returned from painting in Victorville, all white:

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Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:23 pm

Does anyone know who Crystal's buyer is? A couple of people on various forums have hinted that they know, but no one has said anything specific. The only rumor was Air Austral, pretty obviously wrong on the basis of engine type alone.

The white paint job suggests it might be a VIP customer.
 
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Close, but no cigar http://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK
 
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Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:53 am

Royal Jordanian Boeing 787-8 JY-BAG LN499 first flight yesterday:
ImageJY-BAG Royal Jordanian Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner - C/N 37984 / LN 499 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

Aeromexico Boeing 787-9 N183AM LN502 first flight yesterday:
ImageN183AM Aeroméxico Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner - C/N 60285 / LN 502 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

ANA also took delivery of JA888A(LN497)

Air France's first 787-9 (LN500) is scheduled for first flight today.
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Any idea how many -9s Air France plan to have by next March?
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Any idea how many -9s Air France plan to have by next March?

Probably 2.
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Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:02 pm

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Does anyone know who Crystal's buyer is? A couple of people on various forums have hinted that they know, but no one has said anything specific. The only rumor was Air Austral, pretty obviously wrong on the basis of engine type alone.

The white paint job suggests it might be a VIP customer.


L/N 17 was still for sale on 29 Oct 2016 when this listing was last updated. Says it has 18F/244Y but can be converted to 'VVIP'.

http://www.controller.com/listings/airc ... odel/787-8

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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:07 pm

Not to get people too excited but most of the components to build a 787-10 have arrived and are being staged.
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:30 pm

KarelXWB wrote:



Looks like a hangar queen that has been picked clean :(
 
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:33 pm

smittythepirate wrote:
Not to get people too excited but most of the components to build a 787-10 have arrived and are being staged.


Not to make you thirsty, but there's a tapped keg of cold beer on the front porch.

LOL!

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