trex8 wrote:

Mea culpa. I meant the A300 based beluga. Or maybe it was an A380 wing I saw.

A380 wing doesn't fit in a Beluga

trex8 wrote:

https://youtu.be/01F1EHpRjPg
@3.00 they flew to TLS, maybe the initial wings for the test frames went straight to TLS?

The wing is outfitted in Bremen, flaps, ailerons, slats and so on.

mjoelnir wrote:

trex8 wrote:

https://youtu.be/01F1EHpRjPg
@3.00 they flew to TLS, maybe the initial wings for the test frames went straight to TLS?

The wing is outfitted in Bremen, flaps, ailerons, slats and so on.

I found a couple of other cites that have the first set of wings go directly to Toulouse.
wrong or not ?

Looks like they loaded more than just the basic wing in Broughton?
Lots of brackets visible.

Hi, is there a A330 production speadsheet available somewhere (like A350 production and All things 787) ?

queb wrote:

Hi, is there a A330 production speadsheet available somewhere (like A350 production and All things 787) ?

Here you are!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... utput=html

Initial assembly of the first Beluga XL is completed. Wings, pylons, landing gear, mid- and aft fuselage sections have been joined together. Further integration will happen inside one of the A380 hangars. This will take several months to complete.




https://twitter.com/Airbus/status/817330542362423300

KarelXWB wrote:

Initial assembly of the first Beluga XL is completed. Wings, pylons, landing gear, mid- and aft fuselage sections have been joined together. Further integration will happen inside one of the A380 hangars. This will take several months to complete.

When will they take its "scalp"?

Should happen during the coming months inside the A380 hangar.

KarelXWB wrote:

Initial assembly of the first Beluga XL is completed. Wings, pylons, landing gear, mid- and aft fuselage sections have been joined together. Further integration will happen inside one of the A380 hangars. This will take several months to complete.

It really is amazing how they are creating it. I hope they make a documentary on it as it will be interesting to get an in-depth look at how its created.

It will take 12 months to shape the airframe.


https://www.facebook.com/airbus/photos/ ... =3&theater

WIederling wrote:

keesje wrote:

Tail design new Beluga's

quite a pronounced change vs. the plain version.
complete structure and socket for the vertical tail plane has been moved up.

on those pictures, sockets seems to be at the same place

A330


Beluga XL

I've heard IRA is gonna take only 2 of ex Avianca 330s stored at LETL.
I cannot confirm anything yet.

queb wrote:

on those pictures, sockets seems to be at the same place

look at what keesje posted:

keesje wrote:

Tail design new Beluga's

The horizontal tail sits about 1m higher than on the regular tail.
( essentially the square red/brown area above the existing structure.)

WIederling wrote:

look at what keesje posted:

The horizontal tail sits about 1m higher than on the regular tail.

Yes I know but I would argue that a photo is a better proof than a CGI, even if it's from CATIA.

Looking at those pics, the horizontal stabiliser will stay in the same place, but the rudder will be in a different location, further forward and the 1 metre higher.

pugman211 wrote:

Looking at those pics, the horizontal stabiliser will stay in the same place, but the rudder will be in a different location, further forward and the 1 metre higher.

Ups, that was my typo.
I meant to write vertical stabilizer.

I assume the Beluga will have a 242T MTOW?

keesje wrote:

I assume the Beluga will have a 242T MTOW?

MTOW = 227t, my computed OEW = 125t. about 15t extra structure?

Beluga XL specifications
AIRCRAFT DIMENSIONS metric
Overall length 63.1 m
Height 18.9 m
Fuselage diameter 8.8 m
Wingspan (geometric) 60.3 m
Wing area (reference) 361.6 m2
BASIC OPERATING DATA metric
Engines Rolls Royce Trent 700 engines
Range 2200nm at max payload (53 tonnes)
DESIGN WEIGHT metric
Maximum take-off weight 227 tonnes
Maximum landing weight 187 tonnes
Maximum zero fuel weight 178 tonnes

copied from:
http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/news-e ... gn-freeze/

Hi!

Anyone knows when are going to be delivered the 2 remaining A330-300 to Aer Lingus? I've been searching on internet but I didn't find it...

nascar1 wrote:

Hi!

Anyone knows when are going to be delivered the 2 remaining A330-300 to Aer Lingus? I've been searching on internet but I didn't find it...

Their two MSN #s are 1791 and 1817, so I would doubt they would be delivered before the second half of the year.

MSN 1751, the latest A330 VIP aircraft, returned from CHR after paint.


VP-BHD Airbus A330-200(Prestige) Private by Stephane GolfTraveller, on Flickr

MSN 1769 - Delta Airlines next A333 - performed a test flight yesterday.


Delta Air Lines Airbus A330-302 cn 1769 F-WWYS // N830NW by Clément Alloing, on Flickr

MSN 1767 (Eva Air) during a test flight today:


Airbus A330 neo Eva Air by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr

Airbus have made a really interesting video about the history of the oversize cargo airlifters they have used:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJeJaxfPG7c

The video shows footage of the Super Guppy and construction of the original Beluga which I have never seen before and the first flight. It also shows the construction of the BelugaXL so far and how it has been designed as well as some animated air-to-air shots of what it will look like. The Beluga and BelugaXL really are extraordinary aircraft designed by an exceptional team of people.

That EVA livery on the A330 looks stunning.

First delivery of the year:

Airbus A330 -302 1767 B-16337 Eva Air delivery 24jan17 TLS-TPE ex F-WWKR

BTW, does anyone know if all brand-new A333s have the Center Tank enabled, or is it a customer selectable option?

thepinkmachine wrote:

BTW, does anyone know if all brand-new A333s have the Center Tank enabled, or is it a customer selectable option?

On the higher MTOW versions it is enabled. On the lower MTOW versions like especially the regional it is not.

trex8 wrote:

Do all new build A330s get the aerodynamic improvements on the 242t (like the shorted flap "boats")??

Yes. Even the MRTT

trex8 wrote:

So do we know that the new DL planes will just have 80E1-4 or 4B engines (as they are A330-302s from other sites) and the engine upgrades are anything except increased thrust??? I still dont get how you can increase MTOW by 9 tons and not need more TO thrust.

Because excess thrust was obviously not the problem for most take offs. At sea level the A330 had no thrust problems at all, and would probably be able to take off beyond 242t should other factors not play a role. This excess thrust diminishes rapidly as airport elevation climbs. An A330 out of JNB (5500ft) will unlikely be able to get airborne above 230t (Eng out consideration).

T54A wrote:

An A330 out of JNB (5500ft) will unlikely be able to get airborne above 230t (Eng out consideration).

Looks like less than ~~220t. compare to A343: would still lift out ~~255t

WIederling wrote:

T54A wrote:

An A330 out of JNB (5500ft) will unlikely be able to get airborne above 230t (Eng out consideration).

Looks like less than ~~220t. compare to A343: would still lift out ~~255t

I'm still surprised that SAA is taking A333s.

WIederling wrote:

T54A wrote:

An A330 out of JNB (5500ft) will unlikely be able to get airborne above 230t (Eng out consideration).

Looks like less than ~~220t. compare to A343: would still lift out ~~255t

Using Airbus FlySmart program:

FAOR Rwy 03L
030/5 (5kt HW)
25deg C
QNH 1020
runway dry
aircon OFF
anti-ice OFF

RTOW for A333 is 230.2t (max 242t) ; A343 is 261.5t (max 275t) ; A346 is 368t (max 368t).

In fact the A346 can still go to 30deg C and still achieve Max structural weight under those conditions.

T54A wrote:

WIederling wrote:

T54A wrote:

An A330 out of JNB (5500ft) will unlikely be able to get airborne above 230t (Eng out consideration).

Looks like less than ~~220t. compare to A343: would still lift out ~~255t

Using Airbus FlySmart program:
...
RTOW for A333 is 230.2t (max 242t) ; A343 is 261.5t (max 275t) ; A346 is 368t (max 368t).
In fact the A346 can still go to 30deg C and still achieve Max structural weight under those conditions.

Thank you.

Does anyone know the estimated delivery date for the next DL A333, N830NW, which has already performed some test flights?

audidudi wrote:

Does anyone know the estimated delivery date for the next DL A333, N830NW, which has already performed some test flights?

Should be really soon, N830NW completed a customer acceptance flight today.

Next delivery:

Airbus A330 -343 1766 HZ-AQ21 Saudi Arabian Airlines delivery 01feb17 TLS-JED ex F-WWKD

audidudi wrote:

Does anyone know the estimated delivery date for the next DL A333, N830NW, which has already performed some test flights?

Here you go:

Airbus A330 -302 1769 N830NW Delta Air Lines delivery 01feb17 TLS-MSP ex F-WWYS

As promised in early 2016, A330 production is back up. Spirit AeroSystems delivered 24 ship sets in Q4 2016, equaling some 7-8 A330s per month.


http://www.spiritaero.com/media-highlig ... se/136915/

audidudi wrote:

Does anyone know the estimated delivery date for the next DL A333, N830NW, which has already performed some test flights?

Made it to MSP yesterday. I grabbed a pic of it.

Next delivery:

Airbus A330 -243F 1768 TC-JOZ Turkish Airlines delivery 09feb17 TLS-IST ex F-WWYL

Second Neo :

Hello all flying spacemen
This is My first writing in this fabolous forum.
Just a simple question.
Is there a specific date when its time for first take off for A330neo? I know its some delayes..

InThrustWeTrust wrote:

Hello all flying spacemen
This is My first writing in this fabolous forum.
Just a simple question.
Is there a specific date when its time for first take off for A330neo? I know its some delayes..

Major Tom, I presume

WIederling wrote:

InThrustWeTrust wrote:

Hello all flying spacemen
This is My first writing in this fabolous forum.
Just a simple question.
Is there a specific date when its time for first take off for A330neo? I know its some delayes..

Major Tom, I presume

My name is Luke, Luke Skywalker....

InThrustWeTrust wrote:

My name is Luke, Luke Skywalker....

"you are not interested in this Jedi stuff. Go home, be productive.. ."

... Wait for the delayed engines you must.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ne-433057/

WIederling wrote:

InThrustWeTrust wrote:

My name is Luke, Luke Skywalker....

"you are not interested in this Jedi stuff. Go home, be productive.. ."

... Wait for the delayed engines you must.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ne-433057/

Are you suggesting then InThrustWeCannotTrust for the A330neo?.....

Tedd wrote:

Are you suggesting then InThrustWeCannotTrust for the A330neo?.....

... I don't know how to trump that. Touche

Etihad's final A330 freighter on order (MSN 1772) made its first flight today.


Msn86 F-WZNP 15/2/2017 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr