Stitch wrote:It's not a case of "defending the company line". It's a case of combating hyperbole.
To listen to some people on this forum, that one inch of seat width - be it Economy, Premium Economy, Business or First Class - literally makes a flight - be it 15 minutes or 15 hours in duration - "tolerable" or "intolerable". And while it is unreasonable or even unfair for people to state that folks should just pay more for more comfort, we have people claiming that "the public" will in fact pay more to fly an A320 over a 737 or an A330/A350 over a 777/787 to get that one inch - even if they give up legroom to do it (like EK's 10-abreast 777, which have 34" pitch - 3-4" more than many competitor's A330s/A350s).
Seat width plays as much a role of comfort in premium cabins as it does in non-premium. I prefer the 20-21" wide seats of the 747/777 over the 19" wide seats in the 767, for example. But I'm not going to book a one-stop 777 over a non-stop 767 for that one inch. Nor will I pay more for a 747/777 flight over a 767 flight that meets my other trip criteria. And I am certainly not going to claim that "the premium cabin public" will take longer routings or pay a fair bit more for a 20" wide Business Class seat over a 19" wide one.
I still find it strange that someone used to flying J and F is commenting that 1" in Y isn't much to be concerned about when you acknowledge it plays a role even in premium cabins on how comfortable you perceive a flight was. If you wanted to find out if it is hyperbole or not I would suggest flying a few Y long haul flights in a variety of seats on a variety of airlines to make up your own mind on whether there is something to it or not.
Another experiment is to stay at the back of a 77W for a while and to experience the noise compared to the front. All of these plays a role on whether a flight is tolerable or not. Having a cramped seat in a quiet (relative) premium cabin is a lot better than having a cramped seat in a full cabin with the extra noise at the back section.
This doesn't mean that airlines will stop buying Boeing products. They will buy whatever makes them the most profit and Boeing produces aircraft that makes airlines money.
PlanesNTrains wrote:Boy, if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is. Seriously, disparaging Stitch like that is quite unnecessary, particularly when you - yet again - go out of your way to disparage Boeing in your comments.
Okay, I guess the ex-Boeing employee with Boeing shares that only flies J and F should be able to tell others that fly Y about their own experiences, have I got that right? I hope Boeing's feelings isn't hurt that I don't like the way they design their products to make it as hard as it can be for Y passengers (there seems to be only 2 layout options in Y, super comfortable that only 1 airline goes for and the rest that both premium and LCC opt for). Can you tell me where to send a email to apologize for hurting the companies feelings?