DTWLAX wrote:

Anybody knows if there is any other reason for dropping the early morning 2:00 AM departure out of BOM?

DTWLAX wrote:

Just noticed BA has changed the timing for the daytime LHR-BOM flight starting June 14th.
BA139 that currently departs at 10:00 AM from LHR will depart at 17:50 as BA135 from LHR starting June 14th. That is about 4 hours before BA199 departs for BOM.
So that makes it 2 daytime flights on BA flying BOM-LHR.
I am guessing this is to replace the morning BOM-LHR flight that was operated by 9W. BA probably sees more value in operating 2 daytime flights departing BOM.

Anybody knows if there is any other reason for dropping the early morning 2:00 AM departure out of BOM?

edealinfo wrote:

DTWLAX wrote:

Anybody knows if there is any other reason for dropping the early morning 2:00 AM departure out of BOM?

It is in the dead of the night. Humans are not owls.

avier wrote:

DTWLAX wrote:

Just noticed BA has changed the timing for the daytime LHR-BOM flight starting June 14th.
BA139 that currently departs at 10:00 AM from LHR will depart at 17:50 as BA135 from LHR starting June 14th. That is about 4 hours before BA199 departs for BOM.
So that makes it 2 daytime flights on BA flying BOM-LHR.
I am guessing this is to replace the morning BOM-LHR flight that was operated by 9W. BA probably sees more value in operating 2 daytime flights departing BOM.

Anybody knows if there is any other reason for dropping the early morning 2:00 AM departure out of BOM?

That's incorrect. BA135 is a new flight starting from June 2nd, operated four weekly in addition to their exisiting twice daily on the route. So with this new service, they are up to 18 weekly services on the route. The midnight BA138/139 service remains.

DTWLAX wrote:

I went back and looked but cannot find BA139 if you are traveling from June 14th to the 30th. Starts again on July 1st.

avier wrote:

BA138/139 service remains

anshabhi wrote:

No need of a new thread. This can be discussed in Indian aviation thread

N809FR wrote:

anshabhi wrote:

No need of a new thread. This can be discussed in Indian aviation thread

What’s with people on here assuming anyone has the time or desire to go one of the mega posts and read through every page?

Thanks for the post, OP. Wonder if BA will take it to 3 daily year round anytime soon.

anshabhi wrote:

No need of a new thread. This can be discussed in Indian aviation thread

avier wrote:

DTWLAX wrote:

I went back and looked but cannot find BA139 if you are traveling from June 14th to the 30th. Starts again on July 1st.

Here you go :

British Airways starting next week is increasing London Heathrow – Mumbai service, with the additional 4 weekly flights scheduled from 02JUN19. Overall service will increase from 14 to 18 weekly as a result. Reservation for additional flights opened last week, for travel until 26OCT19.

BA139 LHR1005 – 2355BOM 789 D
BA135 LHR1745 – 0740+1BOM 789 x146
BA199 LHR2125 – 1110+1BOM 777 D

BA138 BOM0155 – 0705LHR 789 D
BA134 BOM1210 – 1720LHR 789 x257
BA198 BOM1310 – 1825LHR 777 D
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/284073/british-airways-increases-mumbai-service-from-june-2019/

avier wrote:

DTWLAX wrote:

I went back and looked but cannot find BA139 if you are traveling from June 14th to the 30th. Starts again on July 1st.

Here you go :

British Airways starting next week is increasing London Heathrow – Mumbai service, with the additional 4 weekly flights scheduled from 02JUN19. Overall service will increase from 14 to 18 weekly as a result. Reservation for additional flights opened last week, for travel until 26OCT19.

BA139 LHR1005 – 2355BOM 789 D
BA135 LHR1745 – 0740+1BOM 789 x146
BA199 LHR2125 – 1110+1BOM 777 D

BA138 BOM0155 – 0705LHR 789 D
BA134 BOM1210 – 1720LHR 789 x257
BA198 BOM1310 – 1825LHR 777 D
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/284073/british-airways-increases-mumbai-service-from-june-2019/

flyer1225 wrote:

avier wrote:

DTWLAX wrote:

I went back and looked but cannot find BA139 if you are traveling from June 14th to the 30th. Starts again on July 1st.

Here you go :

British Airways starting next week is increasing London Heathrow – Mumbai service, with the additional 4 weekly flights scheduled from 02JUN19. Overall service will increase from 14 to 18 weekly as a result. Reservation for additional flights opened last week, for travel until 26OCT19.

BA139 LHR1005 – 2355BOM 789 D
BA135 LHR1745 – 0740+1BOM 789 x146
BA199 LHR2125 – 1110+1BOM 777 D

BA138 BOM0155 – 0705LHR 789 D
BA134 BOM1210 – 1720LHR 789 x257
BA198 BOM1310 – 1825LHR 777 D
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/284073/british-airways-increases-mumbai-service-from-june-2019/

Wondering why the 4x weekly flight sits on the ground for so long in BOM - wouldn't it disqualify BA134 from meeting some of the afternoon ex-LHR US-bound connections, as well as a number of European ones? There's no way that BA138, which is timed for India to US connections, can carry all of the US-bound traffic from BOM.

flyer1225 wrote:

Wondering why the 4x weekly flight sits on the ground for so long in BOM - wouldn't it disqualify BA134 from meeting some of the afternoon ex-LHR US-bound connections, as well as a number of European ones? There's no way that BA138, which is timed for India to US connections, can carry all of the US-bound traffic from BOM.

anshabhi wrote:

N809FR wrote:

anshabhi wrote:

No need of a new thread. This can be discussed in Indian aviation thread

What’s with people on here assuming anyone has the time or desire to go one of the mega posts and read through every page?

Thanks for the post, OP. Wonder if BA will take it to 3 daily year round anytime soon.

On that note, it's also painful to see 50 10 post threads for each event. A large thread provides a central platform to discuss everything. Many times different events and issues are interrelated and a large thread helps in consistent discussions

CRJ900 wrote:

If Jet flew three daily B77W on BOM-LHR and BA is adding one 216-seat B789 four times a week - was there overcapacity which is now more right-sized or have other airlines chipped in as well?

edealinfo wrote:

It is in the dead of the night. Humans are not owls.

avier wrote:

CRJ900 wrote:

If Jet flew three daily B77W on BOM-LHR and BA is adding one 216-seat B789 four times a week - was there overcapacity which is now more right-sized or have other airlines chipped in as well?

For Jet, BOM-LHR was one of its most lucrative routes. Ofcourse they had the whole India feed and such, but O&D is strong. BA adding only 4 weekly for now has got to do more with LHR being slot constrained and them probably having to axe other flights to add more BOM flights, like they already have axed a JNB flight for this new rotation. Air India has got rights to add two more daily flights, but again AI has shortage of aircraft and other operational issues which makes them unable to add new flights. No other Indian carrier is capable yet for non-stops to UK. So only BA has the chance to seize the opportunity now, which they did pretty quickly with this addition.

edealinfo wrote:

BA has teh A380 in its fleet. If it can't get more LHR slots to do LHR-BOM why can't it upguage capacity by using its A380s?

edealinfo wrote:

DTWLAX wrote:

Anybody knows if there is any other reason for dropping the early morning 2:00 AM departure out of BOM?

It is in the dead of the night. Humans are not owls.

edealinfo wrote:

avier wrote:

CRJ900 wrote:

If Jet flew three daily B77W on BOM-LHR and BA is adding one 216-seat B789 four times a week - was there overcapacity which is now more right-sized or have other airlines chipped in as well?

BA has teh A380 in its fleet. If it can't get more LHR slots to do LHR-BOM why can't it upguage capacity by using its A380s?

WingsOfLove wrote:

edealinfo wrote:

BA has teh A380 in its fleet. If it can't get more LHR slots to do LHR-BOM why can't it upguage capacity by using its A380s?

tighter inventory = bigger profits

MontyP wrote:

WingsOfLove wrote:

edealinfo wrote:

BA has teh A380 in its fleet. If it can't get more LHR slots to do LHR-BOM why can't it upguage capacity by using its A380s?

tighter inventory = bigger profits

10 years ago when I flew LHR-BOM regularly, BA was flying twice daily 744s. Plus Jet twice daily and Virgin as well. Now BA is up to 18 per week but on smaller planes, so must be significantly fewer seats on the route than back then. All goung via DXB/AUH I guess?

mutu wrote:

MontyP wrote:

WingsOfLove wrote:

tighter inventory = bigger profits

10 years ago when I flew LHR-BOM regularly, BA was flying twice daily 744s. Plus Jet twice daily and Virgin as well. Now BA is up to 18 per week but on smaller planes, so must be significantly fewer seats on the route than back then. All goung via DXB/AUH I guess?

There is a lot of price sensitive O&D traffic between UK and India which I guess BA let go to an extent

CRJ900 wrote:

If Jet flew three daily B77W on BOM-LHR and BA is adding one 216-seat B789 four times a week - was there overcapacity which is now more right-sized or have other airlines chipped in as well?

Could this be a useful route for the new A350-1000?

edealinfo wrote:

DTWLAX wrote:

Anybody knows if there is any other reason for dropping the early morning 2:00 AM departure out of BOM?

It is in the dead of the night. Humans are not owls.

edealinfo wrote:

DTWLAX wrote:

Anybody knows if there is any other reason for dropping the early morning 2:00 AM departure out of BOM?

It is in the dead of the night. Humans are not owls.

MontyP wrote:

10 years ago when I flew LHR-BOM regularly, BA was flying twice daily 744s. Plus Jet twice daily and Virgin as well. Now BA is up to 18 per week but on smaller planes, so must be significantly fewer seats on the route than back then.
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mutu wrote:

Once it becomes clear no one else is stepping in this may become daily or year round 4 days.

ZuluTime wrote:

Is a VS return to Mumbai out of the question? With Jet gone, expansion starting again and then having spare Heathrow slots currently babysat by Flybe Q400s then there must be some options?