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Sctvman wrote:Charter Miami Air flight. Not a commercial flight
http://twitter.com/AirlineFlyer/status/ ... 2353479680
SierraPacific wrote:We were due for a corrosion corner runway overrun since the last one was in November
Francoflier wrote:Glad everyone is ok.Sctvman wrote:Charter Miami Air flight. Not a commercial flight
http://twitter.com/AirlineFlyer/status/ ... 2353479680
A charter flight is a commercial flight. What it is not, is a scheduled flight.SierraPacific wrote:We were due for a corrosion corner runway overrun since the last one was in November
What's a "corrosion corner overrun'?
SierraPacific wrote:Miami Air is based in the North side of the Miami airport along with a couple of other airlines like Skylease, Amerijet, and World Atlantic Airlines. It is nicknamed corrosion corner because of the terrible maintenance of their aircraft and the tendency for them to abandon their aircraft on the northeast side of MIA.
They are generally known as very sketchy airlines that on average have a serious accident once a year. I was referencing the last time Skylease overran a runway in November which was the last corrosion corner airline accident.
Dive teams have been sent in to rescue animals in the cargo hold.
SierraPacific wrote:Miami Air is based in the North side of the Miami airport along with a couple of other airlines like Skylease, Amerijet, and World Atlantic Airlines. It is nicknamed corrosion corner because of the terrible maintenance of their aircraft and the tendency for them to abandon their aircraft on the northeast side of MIA.
They are generally known as very sketchy airlines that on average have a serious accident once a year. I was referencing the last time Skylease overran a runway in November which was the last corrosion corner airline accident.
Francoflier wrote:SierraPacific wrote:Miami Air is based in the North side of the Miami airport along with a couple of other airlines like Skylease, Amerijet, and World Atlantic Airlines. It is nicknamed corrosion corner because of the terrible maintenance of their aircraft and the tendency for them to abandon their aircraft on the northeast side of MIA.
They are generally known as very sketchy airlines that on average have a serious accident once a year. I was referencing the last time Skylease overran a runway in November which was the last corrosion corner airline accident.
I see, thanks.
Although this does nothing to improve the 737's reputation for runway overruns...Dive teams have been sent in to rescue animals in the cargo hold.
This being a military charter, could these be high value K9s? I hope they're ok.
csturdiv wrote:Is the nose cone off on that picture posted above?
SierraPacific wrote:Francoflier wrote:Glad everyone is ok.Sctvman wrote:Charter Miami Air flight. Not a commercial flight
http://twitter.com/AirlineFlyer/status/ ... 2353479680
A charter flight is a commercial flight. What it is not, is a scheduled flight.SierraPacific wrote:We were due for a corrosion corner runway overrun since the last one was in November
Not correct! Corrosion Corner was named after the many propliners that were abandoned on the northwest corner of the airport in the 60 and 70s. I spent many years on the North side of MIA.
What's a "corrosion corner overrun'?
Miami Air is based in the North side of the Miami airport along with a couple of other airlines like Skylease, Amerijet, and World Atlantic Airlines. It is nicknamed corrosion corner because of the terrible maintenance of their aircraft and the tendency for them to abandon their aircraft on the northeast side of MIA.
They are generally known as very sketchy airlines that on average have a serious accident once a year. I was referencing the last time Skylease overran a runway in November which was the last corrosion corner airline accident.
FlyingElvii wrote:Just minor evac casualties being reported. Military passengers that actually listen to instructions and execute them. It makes a huge difference in a situation like this.
Biscayne738 wrote:SierraPacific wrote:Francoflier wrote:Glad everyone is ok.
A charter flight is a commercial flight. What it is not, is a scheduled flight.
Not correct! Corrosion Corner was named after the many propliners that were abandoned on the northwest corner of the airport in the 60 and 70s. I spent many years on the North side of MIA.
What's a "corrosion corner overrun'?
Miami Air is based in the North side of the Miami airport along with a couple of other airlines like Skylease, Amerijet, and World Atlantic Airlines. It is nicknamed corrosion corner because of the terrible maintenance of their aircraft and the tendency for them to abandon their aircraft on the northeast side of MIA.
They are generally known as very sketchy airlines that on average have a serious accident once a year. I was referencing the last time Skylease overran a runway in November which was the last corrosion corner airline accident.
Not correct! Corrosion Corner was named after the many propliners that were abandoned on the northwest corner of the airport in the 60 and 70s. I spent many years on the North side of MIA. It’s no longer Corrosion Corner and is known as the NW36th Street gang. Miami Air is a solid airline, operating civilian and military charters all over the world safely for many years!
cwienck wrote:I fly P-8s at NAS Jax. The weather was not ideal, our runway isn't grooved, and the first 1000 feet of the runway is NOTAM'd closed due to some construction. (Bringing the length from 9000 to 8000 feet). I'm not gonna talk hypotheticals, but there isn't much room for error flaring on this runway. Also, it's almost exactly 1000 feet from last brick to the water at the end. Glad to see nothing more serious happened.
Biscayne738 wrote:SierraPacific wrote:Francoflier wrote:
Not correct! Corrosion Corner was named after the many propliners that were abandoned on the northwest corner of the airport in the 60 and 70s. I spent many years on the North side of MIA. It’s no longer Corrosion Corner and is known as the NW36th Street gang. Miami Air is a solid airline, operating civilian and military charters all over the world safely for many years!
freakyrat wrote:It had been raining in the area at the time of the aircraft's approach so the runway was wet and had ponding water on it.
FlyingElvii wrote:Just minor evac casualties being reported. Military passengers that actually listen to instructions and execute them. It makes a huge difference in a situation like this.
Planetalk wrote:FlyingElvii wrote:Just minor evac casualties being reported. Military passengers that actually listen to instructions and execute them. It makes a huge difference in a situation like this.
Not sure what point you're trying to Prove? Everyone survivie most flights that land on rivers I can think of recently where evacuation is possible .Sully, even the Bali flight that landed on a coral reef in the sea rather than a river. But thank you for giving such credit to the passengers of those flights and we need more positivity here.
KAUSpilot wrote:Biscayne738 wrote:SierraPacific wrote:
LOL.
You know when they're losing pilots even to places like Atlas there are problems. They pay dung and probably get dung for pilots right now.
FlyingElvii wrote:cwienck wrote:I fly P-8s at NAS Jax. The weather was not ideal, our runway isn't grooved, and the first 1000 feet of the runway is NOTAM'd closed due to some construction. (Bringing the length from 9000 to 8000 feet). I'm not gonna talk hypotheticals, but there isn't much room for error flaring on this runway. Also, it's almost exactly 1000 feet from last brick to the water at the end. Glad to see nothing more serious happened.
Thanks for that info about the runway condition. It matches my thoughts. METAR was gusts at 290, mist, 800 scattered.
hariacc wrote:First, glad everyone are save. Hopefully no casualties
Secondly, (I know this is cheap), How came, the super pilot from the United States can not even landed 737 properly? Are the crew of the aircraft from the third world because I read in somewhere that US pilot is super, properly train and can not do wrong.
G500Captain wrote:FlyingElvii wrote:cwienck wrote:I fly P-8s at NAS Jax. The weather was not ideal, our runway isn't grooved, and the first 1000 feet of the runway is NOTAM'd closed due to some construction. (Bringing the length from 9000 to 8000 feet). I'm not gonna talk hypotheticals, but there isn't much room for error flaring on this runway. Also, it's almost exactly 1000 feet from last brick to the water at the end. Glad to see nothing more serious happened.
Thanks for that info about the runway condition. It matches my thoughts. METAR was gusts at 290, mist, 800 scattered.
Umm, the weather wasn’t that good. Here are the METARs and the touchdown was around 0144Z. How many planes do we have to lose due to landing with a tailwind in a thunderstorm? It just baffles the mind!!
KNIP 040217Z 00000KT 10SM -TSRA SCT025CB BKN080 BKN120 BKN250 24/21 A2997 RMK AO2 OCNL LTGIC VC E TS E MOV E T1 SET P0000 T02390211 $
KNIP 040153Z 13003KT 2SM +TSRA BR SCT010 BKN021CB OVC035 23/21 A2998 RMK AO2 TSB04 SLP149 FRQ LTGIC OHD TS OHD MOV E T1 SET P0074 T02280206 $
KNIP 040145Z 29008G16KT 3SM +TSRA BR SCT008 BKN015CB OVC032 24/22 A2999 RMK AO2 TSB04 FRQ LTGIC OHD TS OHD MOV E T1 SET P0063 T02440222 $
KNIP 040122Z 35004KT 5SM +TSRA BR SCT008 BKN018CB OVC030 24/22 A2998 RMK AO2 TSB04 FRQ LTGIC OHD TS OHD MOV E T1 SET P0010 T02440222 $
KNIP 040105Z COR 08003KT 10SM -TSRA SCT008 BKN030CB BKN045 BKN250 25/23 A2997 RMK AO2 TSB04 OCNL LTGIC VC W TS W MOV E T1 SET P0000 T02500228 $
KNIP 040103Z 06003KT 10SM -RA SCT008 BKN030CB BKN250 25/23 A2997 RMK AO2 OCNL LTGIC DSNT SW CB DSNT SW T2 SET P0000 T02500228 $
KNIP 040053Z 00000KT 10SM -RA SCT010 BKN030 BKN045 BKN250 25/22 A2997 RMK AO2 RAB52 SLP143 OCNL LTGIC DSNT SW CB DSNT SW T2 SET P0000 T02500222 $
FlyingElvii wrote:Oh Christ, CNN has Schiavo pontificating already...
tcfc424 wrote:One poster, who flies a similar type, has mentioned that the runway has been shortened due to ongoing maintenance, and it wasn't overly long to begin with.
Planetalk wrote:freakyrat wrote:It had been raining in the area at the time of the aircraft's approach so the runway was wet and had ponding water on it.
Imagine if American pilots had to fly in kind of conditions that are routine in the monsoon season in SE Asia. It'd be carnage. Those pilots out there must be damn good.
Having lived in Colombia a while, which is basically covered in monster cumulonimbus year round, and terrain that makes for some very interesting (visual only!) approaches a lot of pilots get nowhere near enough respect on this forum if they're not from the right country.
tcfc424 wrote:Can we please step away from the comments about nationality? These type of comments do not add to the discussion and lead us off-topic.
In case you all missed it, the topic here is that a Boeing 737-800 (NOT A MAX) departed the end of a runway at the Jacksonville NAS. It was transporting US military personnel and their families, not prisoners (that we have been told) and so that commentary and sentiment also has no bearing here.
One poster, who flies a similar type, has mentioned that the runway has been shortened due to ongoing maintenance, and it wasn't overly long to begin with. The weather was also less than optimal.
Thankfully, it sounds like the human souls aboard fared well, with only minor injuries.
Yes, I will be the first to introduce the common Anet mantra...is it a writeoff? My gut feeling is that this aircraft will never fly again.
zeke wrote:tcfc424 wrote:One poster, who flies a similar type, has mentioned that the runway has been shortened due to ongoing maintenance, and it wasn't overly long to begin with.
8006ft landing distance available on 10
M0194/19 NOTAMN
Q) ZJX/QMRCM/IV/NBO/A/000/999/3014N08140W005 A) KNIP B) 1903281251 C) 1905302300
E) RWY 10 TORA 8,003FT, TODA 8,003FT, ASDA 8,006FT, LDA 8,006FT.