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Question about Eastern Airlines Operating for Sunwing

Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:01 pm

YYZ-PUJ May 11. The WG flight I was on has been changed from a 06:15 departure on their own metal to a 09:15 operated by Eastern. Can anyone confirm the type of birds that are in play and where those seat maps may be found? Precious little info from WG.

I tend to pretty much only fly within the Star Alliance including Rouge for these kind of trips so not really used to wrestling info from WG.
 
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Re: Question about Eastern Airlines Operating for Sunwing

Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:04 pm

Eastern Airlines only flies 767s as far as I am aware. No clue about seat map. I’m guessing Sunwings is consolidating flights due to the Max grounding.
 
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Re: Question about Eastern Airlines Operating for Sunwing

Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:08 pm

Former QF/BA 763’s in a typical 2-class config. I walked on one last summer and iirc it was something like 24 up front and over 230 in coach. Small monitors located throughout the cabin for video entertainment. Old style overhead bins.

There’s been one stuck in MSY for weeks with an engine problem.
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Re: Question about Eastern Airlines Operating for Sunwing

Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:17 pm

This is what I was afraid of. I thought Eastern only had 767's too but my new confirmation is showing me on a 738 operated by Eastern. I guess I will have to call them.

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Re: Question about Eastern Airlines Operating for Sunwing

Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:20 pm

They have been flying 2-3 767-200s/-300s at a time (the exact ones have been changed out a couple times) for Sunwing since the MAX grounding. Besides all Y can't tell you much... though it IS 2-3-2 not 2-4-2. Right now N703KW and N706KW are doing the flights, both ex-QF 767-336ERs (RB.211 powered)

I would recommend being ready to line up as soon as boarding is called, I think they are doing the 767s as open seating, at least they were a week ago.

Apparently WG cannot use them to Cuba so they have been heavily used on PUJ, MBJ, CUN, SXM and LIR mostly from YYZ.
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Re: Question about Eastern Airlines Operating for Sunwing

Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:17 pm

I believe they still retain at least one 737-800. Swift purchased their remnants along with Dynamic Airways and acquired the 767's from them. Swift Air owns the rights to the Eastern branding, but they just seem to be using the Aircraft acquired as part of their typical leasing under Swift Air.

Regardless, I wouldn't expect a seat assignment until the day of departure at the airport.
 
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Re: Question about Eastern Airlines Operating for Sunwing

Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:22 pm

Swift Air runs the 737s, Eastern is all 767s... they operate 2 separate brands.

Swift has one of the ex-EA 738s, N276EA, the rest were all returned to lessors.

Basically, this is what happened:

Swift Air bought Dynamic but kept the separate operation

Swift Air bought Eastern Air Lines and merged the remaining EA/EAL assets into WQ/SWQ

Dynamic (2D/DYN) renamed Eastern Airlines (2D/DYN), code changed later to EA/EAL
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Re: Question about Eastern Airlines Operating for Sunwing

Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:19 pm

northstardc4m wrote:
Swift Air runs the 737s, Eastern is all 767s... they operate 2 separate brands.

Swift has one of the ex-EA 738s, N276EA, the rest were all returned to lessors.

Basically, this is what happened:

Swift Air bought Dynamic but kept the separate operation

Swift Air bought Eastern Air Lines and merged the remaining EA/EAL assets into WQ/SWQ

Dynamic (2D/DYN) renamed Eastern Airlines (2D/DYN), code changed later to EA/EAL


No.

Ken Woolley had acquired a shareholding in Swift several years ago as part of the bankruptcy reorganization. Swift later acquired the Eastern Airlines charter contracts, intellectual property, and took over the leases on two 737-800s (N276EA/N277EA). Kenneth Woolley later acquired Dynamic Airlines out of bankruptcy, and took over the Eastern IP from Swift. More recently Swift was sold (to iAero), and is no longer related to Eastern.

Eastern IATA code is still 2D.
 
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Re: Question about Eastern Airlines Operating for Sunwing

Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:25 pm

MO11 wrote:
Ken Woolley had acquired a shareholding in Swift several years ago as part of the bankruptcy reorganization. Swift later acquired the Eastern Airlines charter contracts, intellectual property, and took over the leases on two 737-800s (N276EA/N277EA). Kenneth Woolley later acquired Dynamic Airlines out of bankruptcy, and took over the Eastern IP from Swift. More recently Swift was sold (to iAero), and is no longer related to Eastern.

Eastern IATA code is still 2D.


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Re: Question about Eastern Airlines Operating for Sunwing

Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:28 pm

northstardc4m wrote:
Right now N703KW and N706KW are doing the flights, both ex-QF 767-336ERs (RB.211 powered)


Assuming no changes in configuration, this is a seating chart for N703KW (ex VH-ZXE, and G-BNWK before that :p )
https://www.qantas.com.au/infodetail/fl ... 0J214Y.pdf
 
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Re: Question about Eastern Airlines Operating for Sunwing

Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:43 am

According to this photo in the database. The comments say they are up to 5 767s now. I didn't realize Swift and Eastern were no longer related.

btw, VERY NICE reference to Soap

https://www.airliners.net/photo/Eastern ... oxmg%3D%3D
 
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Re: Question about Eastern Airlines Operating for Sunwing

Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:39 am

I have my tablet at work on the Miami Airport cam - I saw an Eastern 737 landing there last week.
 
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Re: Question about Eastern Airlines Operating for Sunwing

Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:09 am

jaybird wrote:
I have my tablet at work on the Miami Airport cam - I saw an Eastern 737 landing there last week.



That 737 is operated by Swift Air The 767 operation is a completely separate airline.

So confusing I know :lol:
 
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Re: Question about Eastern Airlines Operating for Sunwing

Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:21 pm

Anyone here work at WG want to shoot me a DM? :)

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Re: Question about Eastern Airlines Operating for Sunwing

Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:32 am

The caption on this photo seems to sum up their operations in a nutshell:



Sunwing wet leased 2 Eastern 767s to bolster the fleet while the 737 MAXs are grounded. However, this is already the 4th (and there is a 5th too) Eastern-Swift-Dynamic bird to make an appearance as no two aircraft in their fleet appear capable of flying on a daily basis.
 
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Re: Question about Eastern Airlines Operating for Sunwing

Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:03 am

The original Eastern was horrible anyway, so this abomination is just paying homage to that. Love seeing it.
 
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Re: Question about Eastern Airlines Operating for Sunwing

Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:32 am

EA CO AS wrote:
MO11 wrote:
Ken Woolley had acquired a shareholding in Swift several years ago as part of the bankruptcy reorganization. Swift later acquired the Eastern Airlines charter contracts, intellectual property, and took over the leases on two 737-800s (N276EA/N277EA). Kenneth Woolley later acquired Dynamic Airlines out of bankruptcy, and took over the Eastern IP from Swift. More recently Swift was sold (to iAero), and is no longer related to Eastern.

Eastern IATA code is still 2D.


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