Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021

FlyinRabbit88 · Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:03 pm

Well it’s time to rev up the rumors and speculation...
Jetblue crewmembers just got this:

Save the Date

JETBLUE ALL HANDS

Join us for a chat about JetBlue’s vision and strategy followed by a Crewmember after-party.

Wednesday, April 10, 2019
New York City

Doors open at 1500ET

All Crewmembers are welcome to watch via webcast or attend in person.

Stay tuned for details on how to RSVP for you and a guest. Tickets to attend in person will be first-come first-served.

FlyinRabbit88 · Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:09 pm

What are your guesses...

- Europe Announcement (Finally!!)
-Airbus A321LR/XLR order
- More flights to the DR?
- New destinations into central US?
- other...

Super80Fan · Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:21 pm

Man this too good, Neeleman is finally coming back and kicking the current loser CEO to the curb.

MJGA - Make JetBlue Great Again

WeatherPilot · Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:22 pm

They got everyone letterman jackets.

santi319 · Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:29 pm

Europe is imminent!!

spacecadet · Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:52 pm

Europe. Not much doubt.

jumbojet · Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:56 pm

spacecadet wrote:
Europe. Not much doubt.

I guess enough crying finally got them some LHR slots. I'm guessing it cant be no more than 1x daily from BOS and 1x daily from JFK? On A321's nonetheless, why even bother? I cant even imagine how their operations department will handle irrops on 1x daily A321. CDG is a no brainer, AMS, no slots available, probably LIS, MAD, BCN, DUB, what else?

Flaps · Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:11 am

Merger with NK and changing the name to JetGreen???

Erebus · Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:28 am

FlyinRabbit88 wrote:
What are your guesses...

- Europe Announcement (Finally!!)
-Airbus A321LR/XLR order
- More flights to the DR?
- New destinations into central US?
- other...

Add: new partnership with another airline? Entry to an alliance possible?

ridgid727 · Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:33 am

They are beating Neeleman to the punch, and are in the intial stages of starting a Moxy type operation to those cities that have been left behind, but can support limited services to close in airports where people are glad to get the service. OMA, DSM, BOI, FAT, SBA, BIL, BZN, GEG, PSC, XNA,CID, ELP, EUG,IDA, FCA, PVU, MRY, FCA, OKC, RAP, TUL, FSD .

lowfareair · Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:36 am

jumbojet wrote:
spacecadet wrote:
Europe. Not much doubt.

I guess enough crying finally got them some LHR slots. I'm guessing it cant be no more than 1x daily from BOS and 1x daily from JFK? On A321's nonetheless, why even bother?

If JetBlue announces LHR with an A321, I can guarantee that they expect to put in a widebody (likely A330) order shortly after determining the route is a success.

Not sure where you think 'crying' got them slots; however, if Delta threw a hissy fit and somehow got 2 LHR slot pairs, I'm sure you'd be waxing poetic over how they managed to finagle extra slots without spending money on them.

SteelChair · Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:19 am

It certainly seems like their management is engaging in a very public PR campaign, far more than a normal airline. The goal appears to be to distract from the grim reality: Their operational stats stink, their financial results are just ok in a time of record profits, they face increasing competition, their pay and benefits lag far behind industry competitors causing morale to be quite low among employees. They appear to have a pilot shortage since pilots continue to jump ship to the L3 as soon as they get a job offer.

BWIAirport · Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:25 am

They're about due for a new tail design right?

tphuang · Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:47 am

FlyinRabbit88 wrote:
What are your guesses...

- Europe Announcement (Finally!!)
-Airbus A321LR/XLR order
- More flights to the DR?
- New destinations into central US?
- other...

They don't do save the date for more island flying or new destination into middle of america. Either Europe or something on that level.

448205 · Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:51 am

They deleted their entire Instagram to give away some airline tickets. I don't have any faith that the airline isn't off the rails at this point.

Scarebus34 · Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:55 am

They will be acquired by United

tphuang · Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:59 am

Scarebus34 wrote:
They will be acquired by United

that kind of stuff don't wait for an announcement 6 weeks from now, but you already know that. Stop trolling.

Scarebus34 · Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:00 am

tphuang wrote:
Scarebus34 wrote:
They will be acquired by United

that kind of stuff don't wait for an announcement 6 weeks from now, but you already know that. Stop trolling.

If someone says it enough times it bound to come true!

aerorobnz · Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:07 am

They are acquiring the rights for Trump Shuttle and rebranding as JetOrange?

nomorerjs · Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:15 am

B6 is trading JFK and BOS to AA for ORD.

jetbluefan1 · Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:17 am

tphuang wrote:
FlyinRabbit88 wrote:
What are your guesses...

- Europe Announcement (Finally!!)
-Airbus A321LR/XLR order
- More flights to the DR?
- New destinations into central US?
- other...

They don't do save the date for more island flying or new destination into middle of america. Either Europe or something on that level.

I would place my bets on 321LR order + Mint 2.0 announcement. Not sure if specific routes would be announced immediately though.

I would say that BOS-London is the obvious first market, but I would imagine B6 management is closely watching Brexit (which could happen on March 29th). It may be prudent to seek more clarity before jumping into the market.

Would love to see something totally different and unexpected like JFK/BOS-TXL. :hot:

ikramerica · Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:21 am

Scarebus34 wrote:
They will be acquired by United

By Berkshire Hathaway...

rbavfan · Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:56 am

jumbojet wrote:
spacecadet wrote:
Europe. Not much doubt.

I guess enough crying finally got them some LHR slots. I'm guessing it cant be no more than 1x daily from BOS and 1x daily from JFK? On A321's nonetheless, why even bother? I cant even imagine how their operations department will handle irrops on 1x daily A321. CDG is a no brainer, AMS, no slots available, probably LIS, MAD, BCN, DUB, what else?

Last I saw LIS & MAD were both land & slot constrained.

Atlwarrior · Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:58 am

Boston and Fort Lauderdale to Myrtle Beach

rbavfan · Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:02 am

nomorerjs wrote:
B6 is trading JFK and BOS to AA for ORD.

Really. AA reduced ops at JFK to make it an O&D operation and is growing PHL as their hub ops. They don't want JFK as a Hub.

rbavfan · Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:04 am

SteelChair wrote:
It certainly seems like their management is engaging in a very public PR campaign, far more than a normal airline. The goal appears to be to distract from the grim reality: Their operational stats stink, their financial results are just ok in a time of record profits, they face increasing competition, their pay and benefits lag far behind industry competitors causing morale to be quite low among employees. They appear to have a pilot shortage since pilots continue to jump ship to the L3 as soon as they get a job offer.

What is the "L3"? would that be what we all call the US3?

Ziyulu · Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:13 am

I predict them joining OneWorld!

nomorerjs · Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:17 am

rbavfan wrote:
nomorerjs wrote:
B6 is trading JFK and BOS to AA for ORD.

Really. AA reduced ops at JFK to make it an O&D operation and is growing PHL as their hub ops. They don't want JFK as a Hub.

This was a sarcastic joke.

B6 isn’t leaving BOS
AA is not keen on expanding JFK
AA at ORD is a pure lower 48ish plus LHR and CUN. The rest is seasonal or better served by partners. UA has the rest and AA has conceded that (outside of CLT, DFW, LGA, MIA, PHL, and PHX - all AA hubs, AA is a joke at ORD).

ytib · Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:22 am

jetbluefan1 wrote:

I would place my bets on 321LR order + Mint 2.0 announcement. Not sure if specific routes would be announced immediately though.

I would say that BOS-London is the obvious first market, but I would imagine B6 management is closely watching Brexit (which could happen on March 29th). It may be prudent to seek more clarity before jumping into the market.

Would love to see something totally different and unexpected like JFK/BOS-TXL.

A 321LR order 20 years after their original Airbus order? Makes sense.

It was April 20, 1999 when they announced the original Airbus order. However this year April 20th is during Easter weekend and that date is also known for a large school shooting in Colorado.

YVRing · Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:50 am

Maybe they bought the Hooters Air name and are going to start a new leisure airline.

ctrabs0114 · Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:29 am

Wow, we're sure obsessed over an airline that, at best, is a niche airline catering to Boston and New York. *yawn*

kaneporta1 · Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:07 am

Flaps wrote:
Merger with NK and changing the name to JetGreen???

Comment of the month!!! :thumbsup:

santi319 · Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:13 am

nomorerjs wrote:
B6 is trading JFK and BOS to AA for ORD.

Careful there, if you question B6 in this forum, either you are a disgruntled employee or you are have no idea what you are talking about...

JBLUA320 · Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:55 am

It's London, at least in part.
The invitation for employees has the backdrop of the London tube seat pattern.

SXDFC · Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:14 am

New livery?

Jeff G · Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:27 am

London? Geez, who cares.

nvm. Rant deleted. It was a good one but I'd just be considered a disgruntled employee instead of a realist. Guilty as charged on both counts.

greendot · Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:30 am

FlyinRabbit88 wrote:
What are your guesses...

- Europe Announcement (Finally!!)
-Airbus A321LR/XLR order
- More flights to the DR?
- New destinations into central US?
- other...

- Doritos are back on the menu.
- potatoe farm being expanded to attract european customers.
- pilots now clean the cabin, and lavatory.

mattyfitzg · Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:34 am

Oh look another JetBlue thread.

OmG iT mUsT mEaN tHeY'rE aNnOuNcInG eUrOpE !11!!!!!1!!!!!1 :roll:

Those disgusting blue crisps are not welcome in the U.K. :lol:

jfklganyc · Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:13 am

Doritos would be a huge deal. It is the most requested item to return “dorrito munchie mix”

London huh?

Just curious...with what plane on what ETOPs certificate?

I hope it is Europe...but they need to get moving if they want to fly to Europe

Blueknows · Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:29 am

Announce the beginning of terminal expansion in JFK. Also the grand opening if the new TWA HOTEL(jetblue is investor in hotel). The expansion of facial recognition check in for international flights. The purchase of the long range airbus. name of international airlines joining us in T5. Ill try to update life from the event

jetbluefan1 · Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:32 am

JBLUA320 wrote:
It's London, at least in part.
The invitation for employees has the backdrop of the London tube seat pattern.

Oh wow, thanks for the info.

Now the question is which London airport....I doubt they obtained enough slots at LHR to have a competitive schedule to BOS. But they may have something up their sleeve.

jumbojet · Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:38 am

jetbluefan1 wrote:
[. But they may have something up their sleeve.

Like finally fixing their horrendous on-time stats? Take yesterday, a few flakes fell in the NYC area, a dusting at best, and they wind up having 35% of their entire operation delayed. Europe won't last long for JetBlue if they can't get their planes in the air and to their destination on time.

B6 to Europe will further erode their on time stats. They are so laser focused on getting all their MINT flights out on time that everything else suffers. Now, throw in B6 to Europe and guaranteed those on time stats will suffer even more..

B6 will start a few BS routes to Europe but with B6 having absolutely no brand name in Europe and no JV's, it will be nothing short of a disaster.B6 wants to be 'big boy' airline but it wont happen. United can fix that however with a few strokes of a pen.

FlapsOne · Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:42 am

I hope it’s europe. We know it won’t be the UK because of brexit but Paris, Dublin or Lisbon could be a great add and mint would be a strong competitor TATL but I’d be interested to see what service will be back down the back. Coke and blue potato chips won’t quite cut it. Will this provide a more appropriate BOB service or be full service or a hybrid?

jumbojet · Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:54 am

Lets look at today....5% of B6 operations are already delayed and its not even 7 AM!! I'd like to know what their plan is going to be when their 1x daily flight to LON leaves with nearly half the paying customers missing due to late arriving connections? Will they put them on a DL or an AA flight?

flyby519 · Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:11 pm

jfklganyc wrote:
Doritos would be a huge deal. It is the most requested item to return “dorrito munchie mix”

London huh?

Just curious...with what plane on what ETOPs certificate?

I hope it is Europe...but they need to get moving if they want to fly to Europe

Oooo that munchie mix...! I like that rumor

airbazar · Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:20 pm

FlyinRabbit88 wrote:
Well it’s time to rev up the rumors and speculation...
Jetblue crewmembers just got this:

Save the Date

JETBLUE ALL HANDS

Leave it to a.net to blow things out of proportion.
Every corporation I know about has a annual all-hands. We get the same exact "save the date" communication at my company. Every all-hands typically ends up as just the executives patting themselves on the back about financial achievements that no one else cares about and lots of slide presentations full of embellished metrics

Moosefire · Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:22 pm

I really do wonder what the appeal of Europe is aside from the prestige of saying they fly there. The yields aren’t that great, especially against the robust complexity it will add to the operation (and costs).

Beatyair · Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:30 pm

“All Hands” is a sea going term, they are heading over the pond and have probably revised there order with the long range version of the A321.

SteelChair · Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:31 pm

Moosefire wrote:
I really do wonder what the appeal of Europe is aside from the prestige of saying they fly there. The yields aren’t that great, especially against the robust complexity it will add to the operation (and costs).

Exactly. Northeast USA to Europe has historically been a money pit but there seems to be some level of prestige. Businesses aren't in business for prestige.

eagles94 · Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:37 pm

it’s one of 2 things.

1- They’re buying Thomas Cook UK.
2- They’re announcing Coke Cherry as a new addition to onboard service.

Fingers crossed for #2.

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