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msiebert09 wrote:Thank you once again for my morning read!
aaflyer777 wrote:UP BOS-NAS MAY 0.3>0[0]
I wonder why it took them so long to fix this misfile
enilria wrote:B6 ACK-LGA JUN 0.3>0.9[0] JUL 0.4>1.4[0] AUG 0.5>1.5[0]
B6 FLL-LGA JUL 5>4[5] AUG 5>4[5]
B6 FLL-NAS JUL 5>4[4] AUG 5>4[4]
B6 FLL-PAP APR 2>1.1[2]
B6 FLL-RIC JUN 2>1.4[2] JUL 2>1.0[2] AUG 2>1.0[2]
B6 JFK-PAP APR 2>1.1
jayunited wrote:It looks like this year UA's SFO-MUC flight won't end in October instead it will be flown daily in both October and November. It will be interesting to see if the flight is still around come December or if hibernation begins in December.
SgtBarone wrote:Thanks as always, Enilria! Nice to see that Skywest won the EAS contract for PIR and ATY.
nkops wrote:I believe Elite is based in MLB so the MLB-SRQ is probably a reposition flight to do the HPN trip that they opened for sales
Thanks as always for this thread.. my favorite
jetbluefan1 wrote:Thanks for posting. Any thoughts on why OAG is not yet reflecting multiple new B6 frequencies ex-BOS starting in Sep/Oct 2019?
simpv wrote:jayunited wrote:It looks like this year UA's SFO-MUC flight won't end in October instead it will be flown daily in both October and November. It will be interesting to see if the flight is still around come December or if hibernation begins in December.
Just looked and UA's SFO-MUC flight is bookable through Jan 2020. I guess it's not seasonal anymore?
It is an impressive growth for MUC, though, with daily A380 on LH and 789 on UA (with the year-round 3x daily to FRA).
Chuska wrote:Looks like UA*/OO begins PIR and ATY on Apr 3: Daily schedule looks like this:
ATY-PIR-DEN
DEN-PIR r/t
DEN-ATY r/t
DEN-PIR-ATY
MSS and OGS begin May 3, I could only find flt. 5140 ORD-OGS-MSS-IAD, 5164 IAD-OGS, and 5125 OGS-ORD, doesn't look like that's all loaded in UA's website yet.
knope2001 wrote:Thanks as always for sharing this stuff, enilria!Chuska wrote:Looks like UA*/OO begins PIR and ATY on Apr 3: Daily schedule looks like this:
ATY-PIR-DEN
DEN-PIR r/t
DEN-ATY r/t
DEN-PIR-ATY
MSS and OGS begin May 3, I could only find flt. 5140 ORD-OGS-MSS-IAD, 5164 IAD-OGS, and 5125 OGS-ORD, doesn't look like that's all loaded in UA's website yet.
Piecing things together it looks like this is the schedule, give or take a few minutes on MSS times which are not out there yet.
0830 MSS
0907 0GS
0937 OGS
1107 ORD
1142 ORD
1450 OGS
1520 OGS
1557 MSS
1627 MSS
1811 IAD
1846 IAD
2021 OGS
2051 OGS
2128 MSS
A quick tally this morning on EAS/Alternate EAS including upcoming changes:
107 markets in the lower 48
57 jet service
--45 Skywest (includes GRI which may be bid by AA rather than OO)
--7 Contour
--5 other
50 prop service
--16 Boutique
--15 Cape
--11 Southern
--6 Air Choice One
--2 other
knope2001 wrote:Thanks as always for sharing this stuff, enilria!
knope2001 wrote:107 markets in the lower 48
57 jet service
--45 Skywest (includes GRI which may be bid by AA rather than OO)
--7 Contour
--5 other
50 prop service
--16 Boutique
--15 Cape
--11 Southern
--6 Air Choice One
--2 other
jrkmsp wrote:I think a couple of those OO EAS may also be bid by Delta, but I don’t swear to that. Care to list them out?
enilria wrote:Nice summary. OO is the new ZK!
Chuska wrote:A few other EAS jet service markets not served by SkyWest include:
American: GCK and ALO (Envoy), ART (Piedmont), and JLN however I have heard that AA is rebidding JLN subsidy free.
United: PQI (Commutair)
Ultimate Jet Charters: MBL
WeatherPilot wrote:It looks like they’re going to puddle jump the 35 miles between OGS and MSS before going to ORD or IAD. Sounds stupid to do but if it means more EAS money for Skywest to provide any kind of service up there than I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Chuska wrote:The other 2 EAS prop markets are served by a newcomer, Advanced Air, which got Silver City, NM to ABQ and PHX on Jan 5. Thanks knope2001 for figuring out the MSS and OGS skds.
jetbluefan1 wrote:Thanks Enilria!enilria wrote:B6 ACK-LGA JUN 0.3>0.9[0] JUL 0.4>1.4[0] AUG 0.5>1.5[0]
B6 FLL-LGA JUL 5>4[5] AUG 5>4[5]
B6 FLL-NAS JUL 5>4[4] AUG 5>4[4]
B6 FLL-PAP APR 2>1.1[2]
B6 FLL-RIC JUN 2>1.4[2] JUL 2>1.0[2] AUG 2>1.0[2]
B6 JFK-PAP APR 2>1.1
Thanks for posting. Any thoughts on why OAG is not yet reflecting multiple new B6 frequencies ex-BOS starting in Sep/Oct 2019?
It’s nice to see B6 get a little more aggressive with its small slot portfolio at LGA. Those ACK flights will be very high yielding and probably more profitable than a fifth flight to FLL during the low/hurricane season.
I suspect B6 is feeling pressure from NK entering the FLLRIC market.
Sad to see the drawdowns at PAP. The civic unrest there doesn’t seem to be dissipating. Very sad.
jetbluefan1 wrote:Any thoughts on why OAG is not yet reflecting multiple new B6 frequencies ex-BOS starting in Sep/Oct 2019?
jayunited wrote:Like you stated that's impressive growth. Just a few years ago UA's SFO-European flights consisted of LHR, FRA and CDG. Both LHR and FRA where 1x daily from December through March, now daily double year around. CDG just a few years ago started year around service and now UA has seasonal service to ZRH, MUC (for now continues through January could be year around), and UA's launching year around AMS this spring. Then later this year 3x weekly service to MEL, increased service to ICN, and seasonal service to DEL in DEC 2019. What is fueling this growth out of SFO? Is it because the Bay area and Silicon Valley are growing or is it something else?
wedgetail737 wrote:It's too bad AC's season YYC-SEA has ended.
hiflyeras wrote:wedgetail737 wrote:It's too bad AC's season YYC-SEA has ended.
Didn't DL recently announce they were dropping SEA-YYC as well? Time for QX to add another flight!
Yup, those are the same ones I got on my "other" list, minus Joplin which I already excluded since AA* will operate without EAS. The seven Contour markets are Cedar City, Page, Macon, Fort Leonard Wood, Parkersburg, Beckley and Tupelo. The LF TUP-BNA listing showing them at 1.4 flights in June versus 4 last year represents Contour putting the E135 into TUP.
JAXDan wrote:Disappointing that JAX lost its only international flight. Anybody know what the JAX-YYZ loads/yields were?
Runway28L wrote:JAXDan wrote:Disappointing that JAX lost its only international flight. Anybody know what the JAX-YYZ loads/yields were?
YYZ-JAX-YYZ (Dec 2017-Jul 2018)
Month Inbound Outbound
Dec 80% 69%
Jan 79% 72%
Feb 88% 76%
Mar 85% 86%
April 85% 86%
May 81% 89%
June 70% 89%
July 86% 80%
Runway28L wrote:JAXDan wrote:Disappointing that JAX lost its only international flight. Anybody know what the JAX-YYZ loads/yields were?
YYZ-JAX-YYZ (Dec 2017-Jul 2018)
Month Inbound Outbound
Dec 80% 69%
Jan 79% 72%
Feb 88% 76%
Mar 85% 86%
April 85% 86%
May 81% 89%
June 70% 89%
July 86% 80%
Wingtips56 wrote:And speaking of CEC, that is another LF EAS (AEAS to be exact) jet market that is not in your list:
knope2001 wrote:Thanks as always for sharing this stuff, enilria!Chuska wrote:Looks like UA*/OO begins PIR and ATY on Apr 3: Daily schedule looks like this:
ATY-PIR-DEN
DEN-PIR r/t
DEN-ATY r/t
DEN-PIR-ATY
MSS and OGS begin May 3, I could only find flt. 5140 ORD-OGS-MSS-IAD, 5164 IAD-OGS, and 5125 OGS-ORD, doesn't look like that's all loaded in UA's website yet.
Piecing things together it looks like this is the schedule, give or take a few minutes on MSS times which are not out there yet.
0830 MSS
0907 OGS
0937 OGS
1107 ORD
1142 ORD
1450 OGS
1520 OGS
1557 MSS
1627 MSS
1811 IAD
1846 IAD
2021 OGS
2051 OGS
2128 MSS
nkops wrote:7Q EWR-VRB JUN 0>0.3[0.6] JUL 0>0.3[0.6] AUG 0>0.3[0.6]
Slightly shorter route! I have my doubts MLB-SRQ is a good route...
*7Q HPN-SRQ JUN 0.3>0[0] JUL 0.3>0[0] AUG 0.3>0[0]
*7Q MLB-SRQ MAR 0>0.3[0] APR 0>0.3[0] MAY 0>0.3[0]
I believe Elite is based in MLB so the MLB-SRQ is probably a reposition flight to do the HPN trip that they opened for sales
Thanks as always for this thread.. my favorite
spinkid wrote:nkops wrote:7Q EWR-VRB JUN 0>0.3[0.6] JUL 0>0.3[0.6] AUG 0>0.3[0.6]
Slightly shorter route! I have my doubts MLB-SRQ is a good route...
*7Q HPN-SRQ JUN 0.3>0[0] JUL 0.3>0[0] AUG 0.3>0[0]
*7Q MLB-SRQ MAR 0>0.3[0] APR 0>0.3[0] MAY 0>0.3[0]
I believe Elite is based in MLB so the MLB-SRQ is probably a reposition flight to do the HPN trip that they opened for sales
Thanks as always for this thread.. my favorite
I don't see HPN on their web site yet. Its a nice add for HPN. Maybe MLB-SRQ will work as a sort of tag on also for that route.
I can't figure out their strategy at all. They make Frontier and Allegiant look like master dart throwers in the game of darts.
BA wrote:hiflyeras wrote:wedgetail737 wrote:It's too bad AC's season YYC-SEA has ended.
Didn't DL recently announce they were dropping SEA-YYC as well? Time for QX to add another flight!
They're dropping SEA-YEG.
FA9295 wrote:Runway28L wrote:JAXDan wrote:Disappointing that JAX lost its only international flight. Anybody know what the JAX-YYZ loads/yields were?
YYZ-JAX-YYZ (Dec 2017-Jul 2018)
Month Inbound Outbound
Dec 80% 69%
Jan 79% 72%
Feb 88% 76%
Mar 85% 86%
April 85% 86%
May 81% 89%
June 70% 89%
July 86% 80%
Those loads aren't terrible, but certainly not great either. It looks like they never made it into the 90% range at all.
enilria wrote:*UP IAH-NAS JUL 0.3>0[0.3] AUG 0.3>0[0.3] SEP 0.3>0[0.3] OCT 0.3>0[0.3] NOV 0.3>0[0.3]
enilria wrote:They just extended their schedule recently. Was it not in the extension?
FA9295 wrote:What extra frequencies were added at BOS?
tphuang wrote:ACK has become the SDQ of this summer, lol. Although I do see that JFK-ACK is now 4 a day on most days.
With how aggressive they have been at adding flights to ACK this summer. I wonder if they will add a couple of EWR-ACK next summer and add to MVY. JFK-ACK/MVY are constantly one of their top 5 margin routes for B6. I would imagine there is plenty of demand in NJ and westchester for MVY also.
As for the other cuts, seems like they have started their yearly summer adjustments earlier this year after conceding they need more spares. Looks like for FLL-RIC, they moved to one A320 vs 2 E90s. A320 should be a lot more competitive in cost vs NK A319.