Waterbomber2 wrote:jagraham wrote:Waterbomber2 wrote:
Back to EK, what use is there for the A350 when they already have the B778/B779 planned?
Also, what use is there for A330neo's?
Airbus says the A330ceo beats the A330neo and the A350 on fuel burn per seat up to 2 hours. Then the A330neo is best between 2 and 4 hours. Somewhere before the 5th hour the A350 becomes best and gets better as the stage length gets longer.
The middle east to MAN is 7 hours. The A350 beats the A330neo, but not by a lot. Everywhere on the continent, the A330neo would be equal to or better than the A350 on fuel burn. That's before purchase price.
So if EK is not going to take its last 36 A380s but wants to do something with the deposits, and wants to save fuel going to Europe, most of Africa, and up to India, and doesn't need to move 77W passenger loads, then the A339 is best. Better than the A350 for under 7 hours, especially after purchase price is factored in. And if they need to move lots of cargo, send a 77W.
For the 787 fans, yes the 787 is better. By about 5% for the 789. Even more for the 78J. But the A339 vs 789 comparison is not so good as to outweigh the outstanding deposits. If EK feels they can consistently sell more than 300 tickets per day to most European cities, then firm up the 78J order. Otherwise, salvage the deposits on A339s.
As said earlier, with jet fuel at 600 USD per ton, and the A380 at firesale pricing, fuel efficiency is not as relevant.
An A380's monthly fuel bill would be around 3 M USD, the monthly lease rate about 1.6 M USD.
A B779's monthly fuel bill would be about 1.7M USD and the monthly lease about 1.5 M USD.
As you can see, fuel efficiency is not everything. Capital cost is also a very relevant factor and the A380 excels in it.
Huh? By your own example with your numbers that means even in low fuel environment the 777X would be 1.4M USD cheaper to operate a month (which would only grow if fuel gets more expensive), and the monthly lease of a 777X is still cheaper despite “firesale” A380 pricing. By spending just 0.4M a month more you are flying two 777X’s instead of just one A380. Your example is suppose to show a benefit of the A380?