VirginFlyer wrote:Stitch wrote:VirginFlyer wrote:Given the previous E-7 AEW&C orders were recorded as 737-700W, it seems likely that this isn’t part of the UK order for 5 E-7s announced on the 22nd of March, but time will tell.
Agreed, it does not make sense to book BDS orders as BBJs.VirginFlyer wrote:RobK wrote:
That is a very surprising and unexpected development if these are NGs as the name suggests! 3 in a single order suggests to me it may be a C-40B/C top up perhaps? They won't be C-40As or wedge tails as those are listed as 700C and 700W respectively. My reason for thinking C-40B/C is because the US already has a bunch and would want to keep the fleet the same for familiarity. If it was a new customer I think Boeing would have directed them at their Max BBJ offering.
Indeed, and added to that normally Business Jet customers are recorded as “Business Jet/VIP Customer”. Looking at the report by model series, 112 BBJs are ordered as that, and 9 as U.S. Air Force, so you may be on to something.
There is this article from last year, but that talks of C-40As: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... an-454181/
Interestingly, FlightGlobal is reporting that only 3 of the 5 E-7s for the UK will be new-build aircraft: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... uy-458127/
As much as it doesn’t fit with previous convention of designating the aircraft 737-700W, the timing of the order for 3 BBJs by an Unidentified Customer does seem to fit with the UK E-7 order.
My revised opinion is that these 3 new BBJ NG orders are indeed going to be the RAF E-7s. My thinking for them being filed as BBJ rather than 700W is because Boeing isn't doing the work, it will be Marshall's who'll be doing the full installation from what I understand. As the BBJ sub-model is basically a blank canvas empty shell, it makes more sense to file them as such and differentiates between the E-7s which Boeing did themselves or played a considerable role in.
Regarding the other remaining NGs, I'm still no further ahead in IDing the remaining 2 UNID frames. I wonder if there is an accounting error or cancellation from some time ago which Boeing hasn't officially deleted from the backlog.
The other BBJs, C-40s and 900s are already known above so I shall ignore those and focus on the remaining 14 - 2x BOC and 12 UNID :
2x BOC = Skymark - 1 ready for delivery and their final one should be flying in a couple of weeks.
12x UNID =
> 1 for Bocomm/KLM. Should be flying in the next week or so.
> 1 for SB Leasing/Pobeda. Should be flying any day.
> 8 for CES Group, 6 for CUA, 2 for CES. 1 CES is flying and ready for delivery, the other should be flying in the next couple of weeks. The 6 CUAs are reportedly not going anywhere until Daxing opens.
> 2 for ? ? ? [cancelled?]