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TC957 wrote:From Routes online, it seems JS is still currently operating the IL-62 twice-weekly to Vladivostock.
oldannyboy wrote:TC957 wrote:From Routes online, it seems JS is still currently operating the IL-62 twice-weekly to Vladivostock.
mmm..no..I fear not..the flight is listed as a Tu-204. Still, not bad.
ikarlson wrote:oldannyboy wrote:TC957 wrote:From Routes online, it seems JS is still currently operating the IL-62 twice-weekly to Vladivostock.
mmm..no..I fear not..the flight is listed as a Tu-204. Still, not bad.
You are right, flight JS271 is on T204 now, was on An 148 not a long time go, flight is little over an hour, no point of sending big birds
SR380 wrote:I didn't want to open a new treat for that but it seems Air Koryo is looking at Russia to buy two new frames:
https://fr.sputniknews.com/internationa ... ns-civils/
https://www.nknews.org/2019/04/north-ko ... yang-told/
Does anyone have any idea for which model they could go for? Tu-204? Il-96?
c933103 wrote:SR380 wrote:I didn't want to open a new treat for that but it seems Air Koryo is looking at Russia to buy two new frames:
https://fr.sputniknews.com/internationa ... ns-civils/
https://www.nknews.org/2019/04/north-ko ... yang-told/
Does anyone have any idea for which model they could go for? Tu-204? Il-96?
Maybe Russianized version of SSJ? Given that the example route was only FNJ-VVO
c933103 wrote:SR380 wrote:I didn't want to open a new treat for that but it seems Air Koryo is looking at Russia to buy two new frames:
https://fr.sputniknews.com/internationa ... ns-civils/
https://www.nknews.org/2019/04/north-ko ... yang-told/
Does anyone have any idea for which model they could go for? Tu-204? Il-96?
Maybe Russianized version of SSJ? Given that the example route was only FNJ-VVO
SR380 wrote:c933103 wrote:SR380 wrote:I didn't want to open a new treat for that but it seems Air Koryo is looking at Russia to buy two new frames:
https://fr.sputniknews.com/internationa ... ns-civils/
https://www.nknews.org/2019/04/north-ko ... yang-told/
Does anyone have any idea for which model they could go for? Tu-204? Il-96?
Maybe Russianized version of SSJ? Given that the example route was only FNJ-VVO
They could use one of the Tu 204 they already have to fly to VVO. In the high season a capacity boost on PEK could be needed. I hope to see them going for one of those old Domodedovo frame
Melbourne wrote:SR380 wrote:c933103 wrote:Maybe Russianized version of SSJ? Given that the example route was only FNJ-VVO
They could use one of the Tu 204 they already have to fly to VVO. In the high season a capacity boost on PEK could be needed. I hope to see them going for one of those old Domodedovo frame
I seriously doubt Air Koryo would be opting for a wide body aircraft. Most likely additional Tu-204s or maybe the sanction abiding version of the SSJ would make sense.
TWA772LR wrote:Melbourne wrote:SR380 wrote:
They could use one of the Tu 204 they already have to fly to VVO. In the high season a capacity boost on PEK could be needed. I hope to see them going for one of those old Domodedovo frame
I seriously doubt Air Koryo would be opting for a wide body aircraft. Most likely additional Tu-204s or maybe the sanction abiding version of the SSJ would make sense.
They gotta move their NK expat slave labor some how.
Melbourne wrote:TWA772LR wrote:Melbourne wrote:
I seriously doubt Air Koryo would be opting for a wide body aircraft. Most likely additional Tu-204s or maybe the sanction abiding version of the SSJ would make sense.
They gotta move their NK expat slave labor some how.
They have been doing that successfully with what they have now, I mean they flew as far as Kuwait until these increased were imposed on them.
Pudelhund wrote:Would be funny if Air Koryo got a deal on a frame of the upcoming Il-96-400M for Kim since it probably won’t have many, if any, real customers.
SR380 wrote:Melbourne wrote:TWA772LR wrote:They gotta move their NK expat slave labor some how.
They have been doing that successfully with what they have now, I mean they flew as far as Kuwait until these increased were imposed on them.
Flights to KWI use to make a fuel stop in China or Pakistan. I still think there is 3 main reason an IL-96 could be needed. To operate on the FNJ-PEK trunk route. During peak season, passengers and cargo demand could justify such a flight (from what I read; I am looking to find the source). It could also be used to replace Chamme-1, as obviously, Marshal Kim Jong Un doesn't like to fly with the current Il-62 (reliability or image convey...).
Zoedyn wrote:Many congrats to JS
Keep up the excellent momentum!
Air Koryo to begin twice-weekly Pyongyang-Macau flights in August after nearly 20 years
Air Koryo resumes Pyongyang-Dalian route amid improved ties with China
Melbourne wrote:SR380 wrote:Melbourne wrote:
They have been doing that successfully with what they have now, I mean they flew as far as Kuwait until these increased were imposed on them.
Flights to KWI use to make a fuel stop in China or Pakistan. I still think there is 3 main reason an IL-96 could be needed. To operate on the FNJ-PEK trunk route. During peak season, passengers and cargo demand could justify such a flight (from what I read; I am looking to find the source). It could also be used to replace Chamme-1, as obviously, Marshal Kim Jong Un doesn't like to fly with the current Il-62 (reliability or image convey...).
Seriously, Air Koryo can't even maintain daily flights to Beijing how can they operate a wide body jet on the route? And to add to that only 50,000 tourists visited North Korea in a year so that kind of proves that 50,000 plus say even double that for what ever other passengers flew into/out of North Korea would not even see the need for a wide body on any services.
Dragonlionting wrote:Melbourne wrote:SR380 wrote:
Flights to KWI use to make a fuel stop in China or Pakistan. I still think there is 3 main reason an IL-96 could be needed. To operate on the FNJ-PEK trunk route. During peak season, passengers and cargo demand could justify such a flight (from what I read; I am looking to find the source). It could also be used to replace Chamme-1, as obviously, Marshal Kim Jong Un doesn't like to fly with the current Il-62 (reliability or image convey...).
Seriously, Air Koryo can't even maintain daily flights to Beijing how can they operate a wide body jet on the route? And to add to that only 50,000 tourists visited North Korea in a year so that kind of proves that 50,000 plus say even double that for what ever other passengers flew into/out of North Korea would not even see the need for a wide body on any services.
It didn’t fly passengers it was basically a slave ship. Flew North Korean workers to Kuwait to work in the oil industry
trijetsonly wrote:Didn't Red Wings just retire their Tu-204? Air Koryo already got one of those. Maybe they will take the other frames now as well.
cedarjet wrote:And the great DPRK aviation tour is back for October 2020, with flights on all the classic heavy iron — Il-18, -62, and -76; the Tu-134, -154, and -204; and the An-24, -148. Plus Pyongyang city tour, metro ride, museums etc. These have been running for eight years now, highly recommended. As well as the unique flying, it’s an interesting country to see, racing full steam ahead to a market economy. Be there and be square!
https://www.juchetravelservices.com/the ... ion-tours/
SyracuseAvGeek wrote:cedarjet wrote:And the great DPRK aviation tour is back for October 2020, with flights on all the classic heavy iron — Il-18, -62, and -76; the Tu-134, -154, and -204; and the An-24, -148. Plus Pyongyang city tour, metro ride, museums etc. These have been running for eight years now, highly recommended. As well as the unique flying, it’s an interesting country to see, racing full steam ahead to a market economy. Be there and be square!
https://www.juchetravelservices.com/the ... ion-tours/
I really wish Americans were allowed on these tours, This would be a trip of a lifetime.
cedarjet wrote:SyracuseAvGeek wrote:cedarjet wrote:And the great DPRK aviation tour is back for October 2020, with flights on all the classic heavy iron — Il-18, -62, and -76; the Tu-134, -154, and -204; and the An-24, -148. Plus Pyongyang city tour, metro ride, museums etc. These have been running for eight years now, highly recommended. As well as the unique flying, it’s an interesting country to see, racing full steam ahead to a market economy. Be there and be square!
https://www.juchetravelservices.com/the ... ion-tours/
I really wish Americans were allowed on these tours, This would be a trip of a lifetime.
It’s a big shame that the US State Dept have banned US citizens from travelling to NK. Until then (2017?) there were Americans on every tour and always a good time had by all. Maybe they’ll life the ban, it’s renewed every September so ya never know.
x1234 wrote:What's the status of the Air Koryo fleet now? Are they still flying the classics like the IL-62 or have they switched to only the newer TU-204?
YMHBSpotting wrote:x1234 wrote:What's the status of the Air Koryo fleet now? Are they still flying the classics like the IL-62 or have they switched to only the newer TU-204?
The Tupolev 204 and Antonov 158 are the only aircraft flown on the international routes to Beijing and Vladivostok ect., with the rest of the fleet, AN24, IL18, IL62 ect used on domestic sectors as far as I am aware, however, since the DPRK shut it's borders thanks to Covid, I have no clue what has been flying., especially given the dire state of the country's economy..
classicjets wrote:What is an An-18?
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