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Nicknuzzii wrote:Anyone have any ideas on what routes might be added to the big 3 (EWR, JFK, LGA) this year?
jfklganyc wrote:JFK is off to a rough January domestically. B6 ends IAD and DAB, SY ends MSP. All next week.
I see DL added a JFK IAD flight for a total of 4 daily... but a large loss in this market overall.
Anyone know what happened to SY? Not much fanfare...they have served JFK for decades.
Anyone getting their slots?
United857 wrote:Also expect major delays this summer in NYC due to runway construction.
JFK: One of the two primary landing runways, 13L/31R, will be shut down from April-November for conversion from asphalt to concrete and widening from 150 feet to 200 feet (45m to 60m, the last runway that has not undergone widening for the A380 at JFK).
EWR: The cross runway, 11/29, will be shut down for resurfacing thus summer. While this runway in and of itself should not significantly impact operations, expect shortened -length operations from 4L/22R and 4R/22L when resurfacing reaches the intersections (weight restrictions for the Asia-bound flights?).
blacksoviet wrote:When will the new terminals at LGA be completed?
jfklganyc wrote:JFK is off to a rough January domestically. B6 ends IAD and DAB, SY ends MSP. All next week.
I see DL added a JFK IAD flight for a total of 4 daily... but a large loss in this market overall.
Anyone know what happened to SY? Not much fanfare...they have served JFK for decades.
Anyone getting their slots?
United857 wrote:Also expect major delays this summer in NYC due to runway construction.
JFK: One of the two primary landing runways, 13L/31R, will be shut down from April-November for conversion from asphalt to concrete and widening from 150 feet to 200 feet (45m to 60m), the last runway that has not undergone widening for the A380 at JFK. The impact will be felt the most when LGA's runway configuration forces JFK to run the 13 or 31 traffic pattern (takeoffs of 13R/landings on 13L or takeoffs on 31L/landings on 31R), since construction on 13L/31R will put JFK into a single-runway operation when using those two traffic patterns. Although JFK has 2 sets of parallel runways for 4 total, only 1 set of parallel runways are ever in use at a single time due to airspace constraints with LGA, 95% of time using one of the four following configurations: takeoffs of 13R/landings on 13L, takeoffs on 31L/landings on 31R, takeoffs on 4L/landings on 4R, takeoffs on 22R/landings on 22L. Occasionally during the evening departure rush you may see 3 runways in use, a 4 or 22 traffic pattern plus additional departures on a shortened 31L with the takeoff roll starting at the first taxiway to the west of the intersection of 13R/31L and 4L/22R.
EWR: The cross runway, 11/29, will be shut down for resurfacing thus summer. While this runway in and of itself should not significantly impact operations, expect shortened-length operations from the main runways 4L/22R and 4R/22L when resurfacing reaches the intersections (weight restrictions for the Asia-bound flights?).
jbs2886 wrote:United857 wrote:Also expect major delays this summer in NYC due to runway construction.
JFK: One of the two primary landing runways, 13L/31R, will be shut down from April-November for conversion from asphalt to concrete and widening from 150 feet to 200 feet (45m to 60m), the last runway that has not undergone widening for the A380 at JFK. The impact will be felt the most when LGA's runway configuration forces JFK to run the 13 or 31 traffic pattern (takeoffs of 13R/landings on 13L or takeoffs on 31L/landings on 31R), since construction on 13L/31R will put JFK into a single-runway operation when using those two traffic patterns. Although JFK has 2 sets of parallel runways for 4 total, only 1 set of parallel runways are ever in use at a single time due to airspace constraints with LGA, 95% of time using one of the four following configurations: takeoffs of 13R/landings on 13L, takeoffs on 31L/landings on 31R, takeoffs on 4L/landings on 4R, takeoffs on 22R/landings on 22L. Occasionally during the evening departure rush you may see 3 runways in use, a 4 or 22 traffic pattern plus additional departures on a shortened 31L with the takeoff roll starting at the first taxiway to the west of the intersection of 13R/31L and 4L/22R.
EWR: The cross runway, 11/29, will be shut down for resurfacing thus summer. While this runway in and of itself should not significantly impact operations, expect shortened-length operations from the main runways 4L/22R and 4R/22L when resurfacing reaches the intersections (weight restrictions for the Asia-bound flights?).
Why is this done during peak travel time? Is it simply because of weather concerns in the other parts of the year?
jfklganyc wrote:11/29 closing at EWR will mean daily Edcts.
It is a big deal. They regularly land on this runway along with 22L
SFOformerFA wrote:Does anyone know if the SY cancellation on JFK - MSP is a temporary, seasonal change or is it permanent?
blacksoviet wrote:Which airlines operate out of the central terminal building at LGA?
tmu101 wrote:Any pictures of the new terminal construction at EWR out there? Can't seem to find any online.
aemoreira1981 wrote:blacksoviet wrote:Which airlines operate out of the central terminal building at LGA?
Everyone other than DL, WS (uses a DL gate), B6, some AA, and possibly someone else.
aemoreira1981 wrote:
You also have the BCS1 operation for Delta starting the end of this month.
Web500sjc wrote:aemoreira1981 wrote:
You also have the BCS1 operation for Delta starting the end of this month.
What is BCS1?
STT757 wrote:tmu101 wrote:Any pictures of the new terminal construction at EWR out there? Can't seem to find any online.
There's a live Earth cam (click top right corner) that show the progress, they're already framing out one of the concourses.
https://www.ewrredevelopment.com
Nicknuzzii wrote:If DL, NK, and G4 make the move from Terminal B at EWR to the new terminal 1 upon it's opening. Do you think it would be possible for Terminal B to go completely international? Also, how long would the retrofitting for customs take?
tmu101 wrote:Nicknuzzii wrote:If DL, NK, and G4 make the move from Terminal B at EWR to the new terminal 1 upon it's opening. Do you think it would be possible for Terminal B to go completely international? Also, how long would the retrofitting for customs take?
I'd like to see United consolidate their A terminal flights into B so they are closer to their C operations. Leave the new terminal to all the other carriers.
On another note it seems that United could connect C-2 to their C-3 international arrivals facility. How long could that theoretically take and would it require a rework of the arrivals hall?
United857 wrote:tmu101 wrote:Nicknuzzii wrote:If DL, NK, and G4 make the move from Terminal B at EWR to the new terminal 1 upon it's opening. Do you think it would be possible for Terminal B to go completely international? Also, how long would the retrofitting for customs take?
I'd like to see United consolidate their A terminal flights into B so they are closer to their C operations. Leave the new terminal to all the other carriers.
On another note it seems that United could connect C-2 to their C-3 international arrivals facility. How long could that theoretically take and would it require a rework of the arrivals hall?
The problem with connecting C2 to C3 is the lack of a dedicated arrivals floor in C2. As it stands currently, arrivals/departures use the same concourse since it is all domestic traffic. For C2 to handle international arrivals, an additional floor would need to be added (very expensive) and the gate areas modified to include escalators/elevators between the jetway and the current concourse for international arriving passengers.
blacksoviet wrote:Which LGA Central Terminal concourse will be demolished last?
Nicknuzzii wrote:Yikes how bad are the delays at EWR?
leader1 wrote:Nicknuzzii wrote:Yikes how bad are the delays at EWR?
Basically running three and a half hour delays. EWR is using a straight Runway 29 operation, which messes things up a great deal.
EWR 1700 0459 ALL + CZY WEATHER / WIND 216 26 26 042
MESSAGE:
CTL ELEMENT: EWR
ELEMENT TYPE: APT
ADL TIME: 1511Z
DELAY ASSIGNMENT MODE: UDP
ARRIVALS ESTIMATED FOR: 25/1700Z - 26/0459Z
CUMULATIVE PROGRAM PERIOD: 25/1700Z - 26/0459Z
PROGRAM RATE: 26
FLT INCL: ALL CONTIGUOUS US DEP
DEP SCOPE: (ALL+CZY_AP) ZLA ZAU ZLC ZTL ZDC ZNY ZHU ZJX ZFW ZOB ZDV
ZOA ZSE ZBW ZMA ZKC ZME ZID ZAB ZMP
CANADIAN DEP ARPTS INCLUDED: CYHZ CYOW CYUL CYYZ CYTZ CYQB
DELAY ASSIGNMENT TABLE APPLIES TO: ZNY
MAXIMUM DELAY: 306
AVERAGE DELAY: 216
IMPACTING CONDITION: WEATHER / WIND
COMMENTS: LANDING AND DEPARTING RY29. LOW POP-UP.
EFFECTIVE TIME: 251512 - 260559
SIGNATURE: 19/02/25 15:13
aemoreira1981 wrote:blacksoviet wrote:Which airlines operate out of the central terminal building at LGA?
Everyone other than DL, WS (uses a DL gate), B6, some AA, and possibly someone else.
leader1 wrote:Nicknuzzii wrote:Yikes how bad are the delays at EWR?
Basically running three and a half hour delays. EWR is using a straight Runway 29 operation, which messes things up a great deal.
EWR 1700 0459 ALL + CZY WEATHER / WIND 216 26 26 042
MESSAGE:
CTL ELEMENT: EWR
ELEMENT TYPE: APT
ADL TIME: 1511Z
DELAY ASSIGNMENT MODE: UDP
ARRIVALS ESTIMATED FOR: 25/1700Z - 26/0459Z
CUMULATIVE PROGRAM PERIOD: 25/1700Z - 26/0459Z
PROGRAM RATE: 26
FLT INCL: ALL CONTIGUOUS US DEP
DEP SCOPE: (ALL+CZY_AP) ZLA ZAU ZLC ZTL ZDC ZNY ZHU ZJX ZFW ZOB ZDV
ZOA ZSE ZBW ZMA ZKC ZME ZID ZAB ZMP
CANADIAN DEP ARPTS INCLUDED: CYHZ CYOW CYUL CYYZ CYTZ CYQB
DELAY ASSIGNMENT TABLE APPLIES TO: ZNY
MAXIMUM DELAY: 306
AVERAGE DELAY: 216
IMPACTING CONDITION: WEATHER / WIND
COMMENTS: LANDING AND DEPARTING RY29. LOW POP-UP.
EFFECTIVE TIME: 251512 - 260559
SIGNATURE: 19/02/25 15:13
aemoreira1981 wrote:leader1 wrote:Nicknuzzii wrote:Yikes how bad are the delays at EWR?
Basically running three and a half hour delays. EWR is using a straight Runway 29 operation, which messes things up a great deal.
EWR 1700 0459 ALL + CZY WEATHER / WIND 216 26 26 042
MESSAGE:
CTL ELEMENT: EWR
ELEMENT TYPE: APT
ADL TIME: 1511Z
DELAY ASSIGNMENT MODE: UDP
ARRIVALS ESTIMATED FOR: 25/1700Z - 26/0459Z
CUMULATIVE PROGRAM PERIOD: 25/1700Z - 26/0459Z
PROGRAM RATE: 26
FLT INCL: ALL CONTIGUOUS US DEP
DEP SCOPE: (ALL+CZY_AP) ZLA ZAU ZLC ZTL ZDC ZNY ZHU ZJX ZFW ZOB ZDV
ZOA ZSE ZBW ZMA ZKC ZME ZID ZAB ZMP
CANADIAN DEP ARPTS INCLUDED: CYHZ CYOW CYUL CYYZ CYTZ CYQB
DELAY ASSIGNMENT TABLE APPLIES TO: ZNY
MAXIMUM DELAY: 306
AVERAGE DELAY: 216
IMPACTING CONDITION: WEATHER / WIND
COMMENTS: LANDING AND DEPARTING RY29. LOW POP-UP.
EFFECTIVE TIME: 251512 - 260559
SIGNATURE: 19/02/25 15:13
Can ultra-long haul flights (i.e., to TLV, DXB, India, and the Asia-Pacific rim) take off from 29?