User001 wrote:Light snowfall? Did you actually look out of the window? I was also stuck at MAN this morning and that was no light dusting. Liverpool also closed for a time too so clearly not as mild as you make out.
Armchair experts, always think they could do better. Think people need to get a grip with reality sometimes.
kruiseri wrote:User001 wrote:Light snowfall? Did you actually look out of the window? I was also stuck at MAN this morning and that was no light dusting. Liverpool also closed for a time too so clearly not as mild as you make out.
Armchair experts, always think they could do better. Think people need to get a grip with reality sometimes.
Yes, I did lookout of the window. I even walked at the city as it happenned.
Where I am from (HEL) this type of weather would have been a non issue, just your typical winter Wednesday.
kruiseri wrote:User001 wrote:Light snowfall? Did you actually look out of the window? I was also stuck at MAN this morning and that was no light dusting. Liverpool also closed for a time too so clearly not as mild as you make out.
Armchair experts, always think they could do better. Think people need to get a grip with reality sometimes.
Yes, I did lookout of the window. I even walked at the city as it happenned.
Where I am from (HEL) this type of weather would have been a non issue, just your typical winter Wednesday.
David_itl wrote:Maybe an aviation professional could confirm what the Tempo notes in the large emboldened snow notes mean as to my untrained eye, what occurred was much more severe than what was forecast/expected?
Turnhouse1 wrote:
The snow today is entirely normal for the north of the UK, I'm not saying it happens for 3 months of the year every year, but it happens a couple of times per year to the extent that an airport, like a highway authority, should have a plan to deal with it.
User001 wrote:Light snowfall? Did you actually look out of the window? I was also stuck at MAN this morning and that was no light dusting. Liverpool also closed for a time too so clearly not as mild as you make out.
Armchair experts, always think they could do better. Think people need to get a grip with reality sometimes.
Mullion wrote:User001 I agree snow gear last used last spring which was probably second time that winter and probably won`t be used again this winter
as this band of snow will not reach us as usual because the gulf stream keeps us warm
kruiseri wrote:I stand corrected on the times. I was quoting what they told as at the lounge.
Of course I am in no position to say how MAN should or should not prepare for snowfall. If the main customers (=local residents and airlines) accept that level of service, then fine.
UNITED's planned Newark – Manchester service is now scheduled with Boeing 767 for entire summer 2019 season. Previously planned 757 service from 29APR19 to 21MAY19 switched to 767-300ER (-400ER from 31MAR19 to 28APR19 and from 22MAY19 to 26OCT19)
digitalcloud wrote:From Airlineroute:UNITED's planned Newark – Manchester service is now scheduled with Boeing 767 for entire summer 2019 season. Previously planned 757 service from 29APR19 to 21MAY19 switched to 767-300ER (-400ER from 31MAR19 to 28APR19 and from 22MAY19 to 26OCT19)
Mullion wrote:I think it will be as B763 don`t have that much difference in seat numbers just more J class which I am told is doing well
User001 wrote:kruiseri wrote:I stand corrected on the times. I was quoting what they told as at the lounge.
Of course I am in no position to say how MAN should or should not prepare for snowfall. If the main customers (=local residents and airlines) accept that level of service, then fine.
Well, you tell me honestly now. Rather than the comment of ‘if your happy with poor levels of service, then fine’, If you were the CEO of the airport, responsible for budgets and everything else, what would you do?
Would you
A) spend millions, upon millions of pounds in new snow equipment, training, de-icing rigs, extra staff and everything else needed (which means other budgets have to be cut to accommodate as you are a business without unlimited budgets and need to invest/make profits etc). Remember, MAN sees this type of snowfall probably 5 days out of 365 overall so that money tied up in all of that’s would lie redundant for up to 360 days a year.
B) keep what you have and just suck it up that those 5 days a year things are not going to move as quickly as you’d like, have the odd closure and work at trying to keep the other 360 days smoothly. Remember, that even the best snow clearing airports do have to close occasionally, so, they are not all perfect either.
So, it’s a Genuine question, what would you do if you were in the hot seat with a limited budget in front of you? Like I say, it’s a very different prospect when your sat in a lounge, tutting and muttering that ‘this is ridiculous’, to being the one who has to make those decisions and stand by them. Very different indeed.
I am quite sure there is a half (or even a quarter) way, it is not an pure either or question.
David_itl wrote:Passenger numbers up 7% in January to 1.78 million https://marketingstockport.co.uk/news/manchester-airport-passenger-numbers-continue-to-soar/
TUGMASTER wrote:Has anybody got the flight details for the MAN-GOT vis CBG route..?