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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Wed May 22, 2019 6:45 pm

Planeboy17 wrote:
adamh8297 wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:

Perhaps we have to admit that the US market is saturated at the moment and there aren't any more underserved cities.


SAT/MSN/SDF would disagree with you.

Or IND, CMH, STL.


None of these airports are underserved.
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Wed May 22, 2019 6:49 pm

MAH4546 wrote:
Planeboy17 wrote:
adamh8297 wrote:

SAT/MSN/SDF would disagree with you.

Or IND, CMH, STL.


None of these airports are underserved.

Define underserved.
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Wed May 22, 2019 6:55 pm

cledaybuck wrote:
MAH4546 wrote:
Planeboy17 wrote:
Or IND, CMH, STL.


None of these airports are underserved.

Define underserved.
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All six have extensive networks with service throughout the United States. They all have service to Florida, New York City, California, and pretty much every major U.S. hub. Most of them also have service major beach resorts in North America, as well as Canada.
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Wed May 22, 2019 7:54 pm

Dieuwer wrote:
B6BOSfan wrote:
tphuang wrote:
Some LF from Jan/Feb. I have question about some of these numbers since all of them show more than 150 passengers per flight by a good margin. Sometimes, JetBlue does overestimate capacity on A320s. Given that I don't know which ones are reconfigured, I can't make djustments. So beware that these numbers could be under stating their LF.

Carrier Flights Boarded Seats LF SeatPerFlight
LGBHDN
B6 34 2341 5244 44.64% 154.2
BOSHDN
B6 32 3324 4944 67.23% 154.5
FLLHDN
B6 16 1531 2472 61.93% 154.5

I read on FT that HDN isn't currently coming back for 2020. The LF shows a continued struggles, although hard to say with without fare numbers. I would've liked to see them add BZN instead of HDN from east coast. Not sure if that will go away too.

When I see their numbers on routes like BOS-HDN/PSP, it just gets met frustrated. Instead of adding routes with actual demand in new markets, they try these seasonal routes without a lot of demand and seem likely to give up after one season. At some point they need to just add some new cities that's underserved from BOS rather than adding service to existing cities that maybe able to support daily JFK service, but just doesn't have enough demand for BOS.


Those Hayden flights were definitely 150 seat planes. I flew from BOS out to Steamboat one round-trip in March, and the plane was probably 2/3 full. I was hoping the BOS route had a chance of hanging on. If the route IS dead for 2020, that's not surprising but also sad. I feel like you do need a bit of annual consistency to draw an audience on a route. As you said, adding service to existing cities that I can already access from JFK is dumb.


Perhaps we have to admit that the US market is saturated at the moment and there aren't any more underserved cities. Simply looking at the JetBlue route map gives me the impression that every potential route is already flow. Maybe add more departures on existing routes, but that's it.
The only prime market left that is not served by JetBlue is Europe. And we all know how long that has been in the works...


I disagree on every potential route already being flown. Out of FLL, I could see B6 serving HOU, DFW, STL, MSP, DTW, MKE. None of those are "underserved" but IMO if you want to have a full offering at FLL, those are some of the places that you should offer service.
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Wed May 22, 2019 8:00 pm

Brickell305 wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:
B6BOSfan wrote:

Those Hayden flights were definitely 150 seat planes. I flew from BOS out to Steamboat one round-trip in March, and the plane was probably 2/3 full. I was hoping the BOS route had a chance of hanging on. If the route IS dead for 2020, that's not surprising but also sad. I feel like you do need a bit of annual consistency to draw an audience on a route. As you said, adding service to existing cities that I can already access from JFK is dumb.


Perhaps we have to admit that the US market is saturated at the moment and there aren't any more underserved cities. Simply looking at the JetBlue route map gives me the impression that every potential route is already flow. Maybe add more departures on existing routes, but that's it.
The only prime market left that is not served by JetBlue is Europe. And we all know how long that has been in the works...


I disagree on every potential route already being flown. Out of FLL, I could see B6 serving HOU, DFW, STL, MSP, DTW, MKE. None of those are "underserved" but IMO if you want to have a full offering at FLL, those are some of the places that you should offer service.


PDX-FLL/MIA is completely unserved, by anyone and everyone.
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Wed May 22, 2019 8:08 pm

How far along is JetBlue in refurbishing their A320 fleet?
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Wed May 22, 2019 8:14 pm

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How far along is JetBlue in refurbishing their A320 fleet?

19 are currently flying around with the Phase 1 cabin with the last one (N598JB) currently in LCQ.

1 is currently flying around with the Phase 2 cabin (N729JB) while 2 are currently in SAL for mods.

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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Wed May 22, 2019 9:10 pm

The Rhode Island Dominican population is around 40,00, so if 1% use the flight, that's 4,000 people on 5,600 seats so a 70% load factor right out of the gate ;-)

I know that't not how it works but it will help what should be a viable flight demographics aside.
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Wed May 22, 2019 11:25 pm

MAH4546 wrote:
Planeboy17 wrote:
adamh8297 wrote:

SAT/MSN/SDF would disagree with you.

Or IND, CMH, STL.


None of these airports are underserved.

I was speaking from BOS.
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Wed May 22, 2019 11:32 pm

Planeboy17 wrote:
MAH4546 wrote:
Planeboy17 wrote:
Or IND, CMH, STL.


None of these airports are underserved.

I was speaking from BOS.


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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Thu May 23, 2019 11:53 am

Hey guys/gals, long time lurker newbie that finally just joined. Quick question have any of you heard anything about JetBlue coming to GSP. Frontier came here almost a year ago and is killing it; my wife and 2 daughters just flew to LA, connecting through Denver and she said the Denver flight was packed and I've heard that almost all of their flights from GSP, i.e. Denver, Vegas, Florida, etc have had excellent load factors. Greenville, like pretty much all of the Carolinas has exploded over the past 8 years and there are a ton of transplants moving here, us included. You can now fly non-stop from GSP via various airlines to LaGuardia, Newark, Philly, DC (Reagan &Dulles), Charlotte, Orlando (Sanford & MCO), Chicago, Tampa, St. Pete, Miami, Denver, Vegas, Ft. Lauderdale, DFW, Detroit and Houston. The airport just had a gorgeous remodel a few years ago and the director is very proactive in trying to woo new airlines, buzz here is a daily flight to Toronto via Air Canada is in the works. But I think since Frontier has done so well, JetBlue should hop on board and grab the empty GSP-BOS route and GSP-CMH to cater to all of the transplants. What say you? Thanks
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Thu May 23, 2019 1:40 pm

Brickell305 wrote:
I disagree on every potential route already being flown. Out of FLL, I could see B6 serving HOU, DFW, STL, MSP, DTW, MKE. None of those are "underserved" but IMO if you want to have a full offering at FLL, those are some of the places that you should offer service.


B6 had recently dropped FLL-DTW nonstop service, and B6 is unlikely to bring back FLL-DTW nonstop service anytime soon. However, I agree that FLL-DFW, FLL-HOU, and FLL-MSP are possible adds by B6.
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Thu May 23, 2019 5:07 pm

ROCDLFAN wrote:
tphuang wrote:
Some LF from Jan/Feb. I have question about some of these numbers since all of them show more than 150 passengers per flight by a good margin. Sometimes, JetBlue does overestimate capacity on A320s. Given that I don't know which ones are reconfigured, I can't make djustments. So beware that these numbers could be under stating their LF.

Carrier Flights Boarded Seats LF SeatPerFlight
FLLPHX
WN 117 17583 20123 87.38% 172
B6 29 3287 4611 71.29% 159
BOSROC
B6 96 7950 9600 82.81% 100
PT 119 5318 5950 89.38% 50
BOSSYR
B6 109 6582 10900 60.39% 100
PT 38 1641 1900 86.37% 50
JFKORH
B6 108 4419 10918 40.47% 101.1
JFKPSP
AS 9 1322 1583 83.51% 175.9
B6 114 14039 18824 74.58% 165.1
BOSPSP
B6 18 1408 2862 49.20% 159
LGBHDN
B6 34 2341 5244 44.64% 154.2
BOSHDN
B6 32 3324 4944 67.23% 154.5
FLLHDN
B6 16 1531 2472 61.93% 154.5
LGBBZN
B6 34 3669 5244 69.97% 154.2
JFKONT
AS 2 188 334 56.29% 167
B6 115 14038 17786 78.93% 154.7
BOSBUR
B6 105 7844 16626 47.18% 158.3
JFKBUR
B6 206 26744 31782 84.15% 154.3
BOSLGB
B6 194 22272 29951 74.36% 154.4
JFKLGB
B6 213 26714 32891 81.22% 154.4

Things to observe here is that BOS-PSP looks pretty bad. And same with BOS-BUR. I'm not surprised if PSP doesn't come back. It seems to even effect JFK-PSP LF.

FLL-PHX looks okay for a first month, especially if the seat count is overstated. BOS-ROC doesn't look back for an initial run. JFK-ORH remains a struggle.

I read on FT that HDN isn't currently coming back for 2020. The LF shows a continued struggles, although hard to say with without fare numbers. I would've liked to see them add BZN instead of HDN from east coast. Not sure if that will go away too.

When I see their numbers on routes like BOS-HDN/PSP, it just gets met frustrated. Instead of adding routes with actual demand in new markets, they try these seasonal routes without a lot of demand and seem likely to give up after one season. At some point they need to just add some new cities that's underserved from BOS rather than adding service to existing cities that maybe able to support daily JFK service, but just doesn't have enough demand for BOS.


Do you by any chance have the reverse ROC-BOS? Especially compared to SYR, the ROC route seems to be doing well for B6 from BOS, something I’m happy to see. It’ll be really interesting to see what March data looks like, as that’s when the introductory fares stopped running. Still though, it was about half way through February as well that they started to run out, so the yield should be significantly better in Feb than Jan (ironically, pax counts I believe are 1.5% higher in Feb than Jan too.)



ROC commuter here! I think that the reason BOS is doing so well is because we now have a huge gap to JFK, with a 0530 departure and not again until 1430. If you want to go anywhere on JetBlue from ROC it's either 0530 or go through BOS on that flight. I now often have to commute to JFK through BOS for this reason and the flight is nearly almost full.
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Mon May 27, 2019 12:53 am

From OAG thread this week, looks like they are cutting back BOS/JFK-BDA in Nov/Dec. Not too surprising given some of the terrible LF we've seen out of there. I guess there is just too much capacity for the cold seasons on these markets.

Also, given that AV is cutting MIA-SAL, B6 really should try to get into JFK/FLL-SAL in the next year. Given AV's generous problems, B6 might be able to do well out of JFK.
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Fri May 31, 2019 1:21 pm

Looks like B6 is moving to T1 of SAN. Not great news considering that's where the ULCCs are. I'm sure it wasn't B6's first choice.

Also based on the DOT haneda thread, it looks like HA is getting pushed to move to MSC at LAX. I assume that's where B6 will move to in 2020 also.
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Fri May 31, 2019 2:47 pm

tphuang wrote:
From OAG thread this week, looks like they are cutting back BOS/JFK-BDA in Nov/Dec. Not too surprising given some of the terrible LF we've seen out of there. I guess there is just too much capacity for the cold seasons on these markets.

Also, given that AV is cutting MIA-SAL, B6 really should try to get into JFK/FLL-SAL in the next year. Given AV's generous problems, B6 might be able to do well out of JFK.


AV isn’t cutting MIASAL. Was a filing error.
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:19 am

tphuang wrote:
Looks like B6 is moving to T1 of SAN. Not great news considering that's where the ULCCs are. I'm sure it wasn't B6's first choice.


Given the light schedule B6 has at SAN, I wonder if they'll be given the awful Gate 1, 1A combo that requires separate security. Overall, T1 isn't great at SAN.
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:13 am

B6BOSfan wrote:
tphuang wrote:
Looks like B6 is moving to T1 of SAN. Not great news considering that's where the ULCCs are. I'm sure it wasn't B6's first choice.


Given the light schedule B6 has at SAN, I wonder if they'll be given the awful Gate 1, 1A combo that requires separate security. Overall, T1 isn't great at SAN.

No, I believe it's gate 11 to 18 area. They sometimes need 3 gates at the same time.
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:50 pm

JetBlue will use 16,17,18 in SAN.
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:06 pm

Per company email, B6 will fly to HDN from both BOS and FLL again this winter. Nothing more specific than that.
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:20 pm

Planeboy17 wrote:
Per company email, B6 will fly to HDN from both BOS and FLL again this winter. Nothing more specific than that.



That last sentence is untrue
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:21 pm

jfklganyc wrote:
Planeboy17 wrote:
Per company email, B6 will fly to HDN from both BOS and FLL again this winter. Nothing more specific than that.



That last sentence is untrue

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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:41 pm

jfklganyc wrote:
Planeboy17 wrote:
Per company email, B6 will fly to HDN from both BOS and FLL again this winter. Nothing more specific than that.



That last sentence is untrue

Your right. I overlooked it.
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:09 pm

Haha
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:05 pm

Planeboy17 wrote:
Per company email, B6 will fly to HDN from both BOS and FLL again this winter. Nothing more specific than that.


Any start date from BOS? Saturdays only? I might be the one person thrilled to hear this. #SkiNut
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:05 am

In SAN Jetblue will be using Terminal 1 - West Gate 14 with 13 and 15 as backups
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:07 am

B6BOSfan wrote:
Planeboy17 wrote:
Per company email, B6 will fly to HDN from both BOS and FLL again this winter. Nothing more specific than that.


Any start date from BOS? Saturdays only? I might be the one person thrilled to hear this. #SkiNut


The service starts December 14th. There will be a additional weekday service on Saturday in addition to Wednesday.

They are discontinuing the LGB - HDN service and redeploying aircraft to increase LGB - SLC frequency by two flights per week.
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:10 am

Will Marty St George’s departure affect JetBlue’s network plans? https://finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/ ... 02500.html
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:44 am

B6 is still flying ATLMCO 1x daily compared to DL and WN multiple dailies along with NK. ATLMCO is a large market even from an o&d perspective. Anyone know if they will keep it? How are the other routes to BOS, JFK and FLL doing from ATL?
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:18 am

impilot wrote:
Will Marty St George’s departure affect JetBlue’s network plans? https://finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/ ... 02500.html



That’s a big loss. Just a guess but I doubt he wanted to leave. That guy was a total JetBlue fan and a big Boston guy. I’m really shocked and honestly it makes me wonder what is really going on.
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:34 am

cpl22586 wrote:
They are discontinuing the LGB - HDN service and redeploying aircraft to increase LGB - SLC frequency by two flights per week.


Very interesting - more competition from DL on the LGB-LAS route, and more now competition for DL from B6 on the LGB-SLC route. Is LGB-BZN coming back?
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:14 pm

Bluewho wrote:
impilot wrote:
Will Marty St George’s departure affect JetBlue’s network plans? https://finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/ ... 02500.html



That’s a big loss. Just a guess but I doubt he wanted to leave. That guy was a total JetBlue fan and a big Boston guy. I’m really shocked and honestly it makes me wonder what is really going on.


That’s just about the last of the old guard from anything that was the original jB.

Not sure what happens next. Honestly don’t know if this is good, bad, or simply another corporate shuffle.
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:19 pm

CaptCoolHand wrote:
Bluewho wrote:
impilot wrote:
Will Marty St George’s departure affect JetBlue’s network plans? https://finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/ ... 02500.html



That’s a big loss. Just a guess but I doubt he wanted to leave. That guy was a total JetBlue fan and a big Boston guy. I’m really shocked and honestly it makes me wonder what is really going on.


That’s just about the last of the old guard from anything that was the original jB.

Not sure what happens next. Honestly don’t know if this is good, bad, or simply another corporate shuffle.

Can’t imagine a scenario where this is good for B6.
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:30 pm

Question is why is he leaving? Also it’s pretty quick as end of month. He must have got head hunted for another airline
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:03 pm

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Question is why is he leaving? Also it’s pretty quick as end of month. He must have got head hunted for another airline

A late evening unannounced departure with no preplanned and concurrently announced successorship plan? Nah. This is JG asserting her dominance. Which is sad...his competence will be missed.
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:05 pm

Who knows anymore, l've reduced my stress levels and stopped trying to second guess them.
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:44 pm

impilot wrote:
Blueknows wrote:
Question is why is he leaving? Also it’s pretty quick as end of month. He must have got head hunted for another airline

A late evening unannounced departure with no preplanned and concurrently announced successorship plan? Nah. This is JG asserting her dominance. Which is sad...his competence will be missed.


It's unfortunate and a little bit scary. MSG was one of the few "adults in the room" in leadership, and JG is likely going to be the downfall of B6.
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:54 pm

HOW COME JetBlue doesn't fly JFK-DTW!? The Metro Detroit area actually has the BUSINESS traffic to support a flight to JFK and beyond... I am sick of driving to Toronto or Chicago for lower Europe fares. We've had a virtual high price Delta monopoly here in Detroit! Seriously a 2x daily E190 JFK-DTW would be great so I can connect in JFK for cheaper EU fares. I know the local market already has Spirit on LGA-DTW but JetBlue's service is better.
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:04 pm

Jetblue has started to sell JFK-GYE tickets starting on Dec. 5th. This will become B6’s longest route and flown by their new 321NEO
1769 JFK-GYE
1400-21:04 blocked @ 7:04
1770 GYE-JFK
22:55-5:13 +1 blocked @ 6:18
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:15 pm

FARmd90 wrote:
Jetblue has started to sell JFK-GYE tickets starting on Dec. 5th. This will become B6’s longest route and flown by their new 321NEO
1769 JFK-GYE
1400-21:04 blocked @ 7:04
1770 GYE-JFK
22:55-5:13 +1 blocked @ 6:18



So 13.22 hour scheduled duty day for this redeye turn? Hopefully this wont be legal after their first contract is ratified.
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:22 pm

CobaltScar wrote:
FARmd90 wrote:
Jetblue has started to sell JFK-GYE tickets starting on Dec. 5th. This will become B6’s longest route and flown by their new 321NEO
1769 JFK-GYE
1400-21:04 blocked @ 7:04
1770 GYE-JFK
22:55-5:13 +1 blocked @ 6:18



So 13.22 hour scheduled duty day for this redeye turn? Hopefully this wont be legal after their first contract is ratified.


The crew will overnight.....
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:29 pm

It already isn’t legal under current rules. If we just figure a 7hr and 6hr block for easy math that puts the turn at 13hrs. Add in report times and duty off periods and it puts the turn at over 14hrs and that goes against some of the rules that are in place.
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:33 pm

MSG departure to me seems like a pretty big deal. Honestly, he seemed to me a very competent route planner. I hope they find someone good to replace him. Otherwise, this leadership is making some scary decisions imo.

n2dru wrote:
B6 is still flying ATLMCO 1x daily compared to DL and WN multiple dailies along with NK. ATLMCO is a large market even from an o&d perspective. Anyone know if they will keep it? How are the other routes to BOS, JFK and FLL doing from ATL?


JFK-ATL makes good money and will stay that way. FLL-ATL is probably breaking even. BOS-ATL is a loss leader. ATL-MCO has terrible margins, but maybe a route they keep around if they intend to build up MCO later. It's the most likely one for them to cut.
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:52 pm

trueblew wrote:
impilot wrote:
Blueknows wrote:
Question is why is he leaving? Also it’s pretty quick as end of month. He must have got head hunted for another airline

A late evening unannounced departure with no preplanned and concurrently announced successorship plan? Nah. This is JG asserting her dominance. Which is sad...his competence will be missed.


It's unfortunate and a little bit scary. MSG was one of the few "adults in the room" in leadership, and JG is likely going to be the downfall of B6.


Neither of you know the real reason. Maybe he left for Moxy :stirthepot:
 
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:53 pm

cpl22586 wrote:
In SAN Jetblue will be using Terminal 1 - West Gate 14 with 13 and 15 as backups

You got it -- the West Rotunda in T1 is their new home, along with most other smaller and LCC/ULCC cx which currently serve SDIA. They are expected to remain there until the replacement T1 is built in a few years (hopefully!)

I have a question for anyone in the know about Blue's SAN ops. I checked yesterday in the booking engine at JetBlue.com and the 3rd BOS flight which begins on July 1, is now showing as a MINT A321. I'm sure I had heard that the temporary 3rd flight being added for the peak summer season would NOT be Mint, but only a 320. Can anyone confirm that the booking engine is correct and that all 3 BOS flights plus the daily-double JFK service will be Mint 321s? Nice if true. (Our FLL flight is still a non-Mint 320.)

bb
 
impilot
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:53 pm

TheLunchbox wrote:
trueblew wrote:
impilot wrote:
A late evening unannounced departure with no preplanned and concurrently announced successorship plan? Nah. This is JG asserting her dominance. Which is sad...his competence will be missed.


It's unfortunate and a little bit scary. MSG was one of the few "adults in the room" in leadership, and JG is likely going to be the downfall of B6.


Neither of you know the real reason. Maybe he left for Moxy :stirthepot:

Wouldn’t surprise me.
 
FARmd90
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:33 pm

SANFan wrote:
cpl22586 wrote:
In SAN Jetblue will be using Terminal 1 - West Gate 14 with 13 and 15 as backups

You got it -- the West Rotunda in T1 is their new home, along with most other smaller and LCC/ULCC cx which currently serve SDIA. They are expected to remain there until the replacement T1 is built in a few years (hopefully!)

I have a question for anyone in the know about Blue's SAN ops. I checked yesterday in the booking engine at JetBlue.com and the 3rd BOS flight which begins on July 1, is now showing as a MINT A321. I'm sure I had heard that the temporary 3rd flight being added for the peak summer season would NOT be Mint, but only a 320. Can anyone confirm that the booking engine is correct and that all 3 BOS flights plus the daily-double JFK service will be Mint 321s? Nice if true. (Our FLL flight is still a non-Mint 320.)

bb


I just looked up the first week on BOS-SAN starting July 1st and all flights were showing 321/Mint on the app.
 
CobaltScar
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:36 pm

dabpit wrote:
CobaltScar wrote:
FARmd90 wrote:
Jetblue has started to sell JFK-GYE tickets starting on Dec. 5th. This will become B6’s longest route and flown by their new 321NEO
1769 JFK-GYE
1400-21:04 blocked @ 7:04
1770 GYE-JFK
22:55-5:13 +1 blocked @ 6:18



So 13.22 hour scheduled duty day for this redeye turn? Hopefully this wont be legal after their first contract is ratified.


The crew will overnight.....


You are right, forgot about the rest of the duty time added in.

TheLunchbox wrote:
Neither of you know the real reason. Maybe he left for Moxy :stirthepot:


Did not think about Moxy, this is probably right.
 
Blueballs
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Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:05 pm

TheLunchbox wrote:
trueblew wrote:
impilot wrote:
A late evening unannounced departure with no preplanned and concurrently announced successorship plan? Nah. This is JG asserting her dominance. Which is sad...his competence will be missed.


It's unfortunate and a little bit scary. MSG was one of the few "adults in the room" in leadership, and JG is likely going to be the downfall of B6.


Neither of you know the real reason. Maybe he left for Moxy :stirthepot:


A little birdy from the upper management stated this is 100% JG. Her ego won’t allow someone better suited for her job to remain at blue
 
Bluewho
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Joined: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:58 pm

Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2019

Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:34 pm

Blueballs wrote:
TheLunchbox wrote:
trueblew wrote:

It's unfortunate and a little bit scary. MSG was one of the few "adults in the room" in leadership, and JG is likely going to be the downfall of B6.


Neither of you know the real reason. Maybe he left for Moxy :stirthepot:


A little birdy from the upper management stated this is 100% JG. Her ego won’t allow someone better suited for her job to remain at blue



Good thing for us she is so great at her job ;(
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