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Ishrion
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:36 pm

Planes4you wrote:
When should it be approved?


As early as today.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:19 pm

Planes4you wrote:
When should it be approved?


Right about now: https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1420041#p21404941
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:18 pm

I’m betting once the mayor gets back from Australia an announcement will be made for a new route
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:32 pm

so in last night's storms, AA5868 (DFW-LBB) and WN4883 (DEN-LBB) both held east of Lubbock for conditions to improve at LBB. WN4883 and AA5979 (DFW-LBB), which did not hold, eventually landed at LBB.

AA5868 returned to DFW. does anyone know why?

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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:41 pm

DFWflightpath wrote:
so in last night's storms, AA5868 (DFW-LBB) and WN4883 (DEN-LBB) both held east of Lubbock for conditions to improve at LBB. WN4883 and AA5979 (DFW-LBB), which did not hold, eventually landed at LBB.

AA5868 returned to DFW. does anyone know why?

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It was probably easiest to divert back to DFW instead of diverting to another airport nearby.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:18 pm

If in fact we get a new route to Australia when do you guys think it’ll be announced?imo I think there’ll be an announcement when the mayor is either on his way back or when he gets back to Dallas
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:20 pm

Also with DFW being on the list of new routes for the Turkish 787 when do you guys think that will happen?
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:35 pm

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Also with DFW being on the list of new routes for the Turkish 787 when do you guys think that will happen?


Do you have an actual source to confirm DFW is on a list of new routes by TK? I’ve seen you bring it up many times but not a source.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:20 pm

Ishrion wrote:
Planes4you wrote:
Also with DFW being on the list of new routes for the Turkish 787 when do you guys think that will happen?


Do you have an actual source to confirm DFW is on a list of new routes by TK? I’ve seen you bring it up many times but not a source.


No someone on the Turkish aviation thread said so and he/she mentioned something about a list.Im assuming he/she is close to the airline
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:11 am

Ishrion wrote:

It was probably easiest to divert back to DFW instead of diverting to another airport nearby.



I guess what I am asking is why AA5868 chose to divert 45 minutes back to DFW, while WN4883 and AA5979 continued to LBB at essentially the same time last night?
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:13 am

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I’m betting once the mayor gets back from Australia an announcement will be made for a new route


They did announce new routes. BNE-SFO/ORD
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:24 am

LAXdude1023 wrote:
Planes4you wrote:
I’m betting once the mayor gets back from Australia an announcement will be made for a new route


They did announce new routes. BNE-SFO/ORD


They announced the intention to launch if the JV gets formal approval so we will wait and see.

Not sure DFW will get any love from QF anytime soon.

The current moves continue to create more options, which will allow them to move focus away from what had until recently been largely a LAX-focused approach, with the likelihood of the following:

LAX-SYD/MEL/BNE (both QF and AA on SYD and MEL. QF will continue to have a LAX-JFK tag also)
SFO-SYD/MEL/BNE (QF)
DFW-SYD (QF)
BNE-ORD (QF)

That will give passengers 2 west coast cities or the 2 more central cities to connect in. A far broader network offering.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:40 am

DFWflightpath wrote:
Ishrion wrote:

It was probably easiest to divert back to DFW instead of diverting to another airport nearby.



I guess what I am asking is why AA5868 chose to divert 45 minutes back to DFW, while WN4883 and AA5979 continued to LBB at essentially the same time last night?

I would guess it may have to do with the choice of diversion airport and fuel reserves.

With the weather moving East, perhaps DFW was the planned alternate for the flight. If so, in order to land at LBB, the plane needed to have enough fuel to make the landing attempt, go around, and divert back to DFW while staying above legal reserves. If there wasn't enough fuel onboard for that, then diverting to DFW without an attempt to land was the only correct choice.

Southwest presumably had enough fuel to make a landing attempt and divert. Different aircraft, different fuel capacity, different burn rate, and different fuel loads. Bottom line, they can't compare.
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:57 pm

So with AA replacing qantas on MEL-LAX does that mean what I think it means?
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:33 pm

I never knew mainline used Terminals b
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:44 pm

Planes4you wrote:
I never knew mainline used Terminals b


When they first expanded B terminal, the new gates (around where the Admirals Club is) were mainline (we're talking about 20 years ago).
Then when the A2 satellite closed, B became all Eagle
Now that the E satellite has been reopened for Eagle, some gates in B will once again be mainline.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:46 pm

AAtakeMeAway wrote:
Planes4you wrote:
I never knew mainline used Terminals b


When they first expanded B terminal, the new gates (around where the Admirals Club is) were mainline (we're talking about 20 years ago).
Then when the A2 satellite closed, B became all Eagle
Now that the E satellite has been reopened for Eagle, some gates in B will once again be mainline.


Mainline began operating on the 6th of this month with gates B5-12 I believe. It’s capable of handling MD-80s, A319, A320, A321, A321neo, and 737.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:10 am

Air France did pretty good with loads in April avianca did pretty good too
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:35 pm

Apparently there's been damage done at KDAL due to severe storms, max gust of 62kts taken by the ASOS on field. Southwest hangars reportedly have door and roof damage, and also one of their large billboards on Mockingbird toppled onto a Chevron station.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:39 pm

Went through dfw this morning. Blue skies......Doesn’t take long for weather to change in Texas
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:33 pm

reednavy wrote:
Apparently there's been damage done at KDAL due to severe storms, max gust of 62kts taken by the ASOS on field. Southwest hangars reportedly have door and roof damage, and also one of their large billboards on Mockingbird toppled onto a Chevron station.


BigLeague storms rolled through Frisco before it hit DAL. I believe the winds.

Neighbor was at DAL and said power was out. Flight delayed until 8:30, so he rebooked on AA and drove over to DFW.
Whatever
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:35 pm

william wrote:
Went through dfw this morning. Blue skies......Doesn’t take long for weather to change in Texas


Silly saying. It doesn’t take long for weather to change anywhere.

It’s sunny skies again, just like nothing happened.

This type of weather can happen anywhere (sun, rain, sun).
Whatever
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:37 pm

My neighbor saw the jet bridges moving a bit in the wind at DAL.

A crane fell on another friend’s apartment and has caused significant damage in downtown Dallas.
Whatever
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:19 pm

FriscoHeavy wrote:
reednavy wrote:
Apparently there's been damage done at KDAL due to severe storms, max gust of 62kts taken by the ASOS on field. Southwest hangars reportedly have door and roof damage, and also one of their large billboards on Mockingbird toppled onto a Chevron station.


BigLeague storms rolled through Frisco before it hit DAL. I believe the winds.

Neighbor was at DAL and said power was out. Flight delayed until 8:30, so he rebooked on AA and drove over to DFW.


True, but it’s a poplar saying in Texas, “ Don’t like the weather, wait five minutes”.

Hope no one was hurt in crane collapse.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:42 pm

william wrote:
FriscoHeavy wrote:
reednavy wrote:
Apparently there's been damage done at KDAL due to severe storms, max gust of 62kts taken by the ASOS on field. Southwest hangars reportedly have door and roof damage, and also one of their large billboards on Mockingbird toppled onto a Chevron station.


BigLeague storms rolled through Frisco before it hit DAL. I believe the winds.

Neighbor was at DAL and said power was out. Flight delayed until 8:30, so he rebooked on AA and drove over to DFW.


True, but it’s a poplar saying in Texas, “ Don’t like the weather, wait five minutes”.

Hope no one was hurt in crane collapse.


One person dead and two more are critical.
Whatever
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:02 am

Was sitting at gate 4 at DAL and watched the whole thing come through as I waited for WN3732 to DEN. Winds howled windows shook and the roof made some loud snapping sounds. The southern side of the terminal lost power, so all those folks came to our side so it was very crowded. Our plane and jetway went dancing. We ended up being delayed 2.5 hours, mostly waiting on inspections of the aircraft.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:04 am

Does anyone have a list of the nonstop destinations Envoy typically serves exclusively out of the DFW Terminal E Satellite?

I kind of think this would be fascinating to compare this with DAL’s list of nonstop destinations.
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:11 am

KlimaBXsst wrote:
Does anyone have a list of the nonstop destinations Envoy typically serves exclusively out of the DFW Terminal E Satellite?

I kind of think this would be fascinating to compare this with DAL’s list of nonstop destinations.


Would they operate specific rotes out of the satellite? Seems a bit inefficient since schedules and aircraft can always change.

DAL has more long range routes considering WN has 737s... while Envoy’s will be shorter.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:37 am

f18raider wrote:
Was sitting at gate 4 at DAL and watched the whole thing come through as I waited for WN3732 to DEN. Winds howled windows shook and the roof made some loud snapping sounds. The southern side of the terminal lost power, so all those folks came to our side so it was very crowded. Our plane and jetway went dancing. We ended up being delayed 2.5 hours, mostly waiting on inspections of the aircraft.


Fox 4 showed a brief clip of roof damage to one of WN's hangars at DAL. They were also reporting at least 60 mph straight-line winds which struck this afternoon.
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:20 am

Ishrion wrote:
KlimaBXsst wrote:
Does anyone have a list of the nonstop destinations Envoy typically serves exclusively out of the DFW Terminal E Satellite?

I kind of think this would be fascinating to compare this with DAL’s list of nonstop destinations.


Would they operate specific rotes out of the satellite? Seems a bit inefficient since schedules and aircraft can always change.

DAL has more long range routes considering WN has 737s... while Envoy’s will be shorter.



It’s a regional terminal so do the most part I am guessing only certain banks of flights would be leaving from here.
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:52 am

Line for customer service tonight at Terminal D.

Mind you end of the line, as shown, is at D18 and next to the new Flying Saucer and continues for another 200 yards past Duty Free and the lounges to the customer service counter at D24.Image
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:01 am

FriscoHeavy wrote:
Neighbor was at DAL and said power was out. Flight delayed until 8:30, so he rebooked on AA and drove over to DFW.


Should have taken the DART LoveLink524 to the Orange Line light rail.
That way, he could have spent just $3 to get to DFW, AND had the pleasure of watching multiple spontaneous fist fights while on the train!
My last DAL arrival saw me taking the DART rail, and I got to witness such entertainment.
It's completely put me off of flying into Love instead of DFW.
Although, to be fair, the orange line now shuttles the homeless population straight into the terminal complex of DFW. Always kinda strange to see the homeless setting up camp in terminal A... I guess it's the new normal.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:59 pm

Mike Rawlings is on his way back to Dallas (if he isn’t here already) after having a meeting with Qantas officials and other people with talks to trade
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:00 pm

He’s the Dallas mayor btw
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:36 pm

reednavy wrote:
Apparently there's been damage done at KDAL due to severe storms, max gust of 62kts taken by the ASOS on field. Southwest hangars reportedly have door and roof damage, and also one of their large billboards on Mockingbird toppled onto a Chevron station.


I was working in a hangar at Addison Airport (KADS) when the storm hit, and had the pleasure of watching the roof peel off the hangar from the inside. Good fun. Hope never to repeat it.

Lots of aircraft at Addison damaged but I think mine came through unscathed (unlike its hangar mate, which did sustain damage from tumbling and building materials).

The storm arrived as I was closing the hangar door (and I barely got it closed before the power failed for good), and it went from dead calm to over 60 kn pretty much instantaneously. I have never seen anything like it.
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:33 am

sccutler wrote:
reednavy wrote:
Apparently there's been damage done at KDAL due to severe storms, max gust of 62kts taken by the ASOS on field. Southwest hangars reportedly have door and roof damage, and also one of their large billboards on Mockingbird toppled onto a Chevron station.


I was working in a hangar at Addison Airport (KADS) when the storm hit, and had the pleasure of watching the roof peel off the hangar from the inside. Good fun. Hope never to repeat it.

Lots of aircraft at Addison damaged but I think mine came through unscathed (unlike its hangar mate, which did sustain damage from tumbling and building materials).

The storm arrived as I was closing the hangar door (and I barely got it closed before the power failed for good), and it went from dead calm to over 60 kn pretty much instantaneously. I have never seen anything like it.


It's been a bad weather year in the U.S. so far. But, then again...the doubters will claim climate change has nothing to do with it. I expect more of the same all summer.
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