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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:15 am

Jshank83 wrote:
Year end noise report out. Includes Aircraft type usage, runway usage, individual airline movements. Interesting stuff. All in chart form. Also shows all the take offs/landing tracks for the busiest day of the year (June 15)

Newest runway used 13% of the time.
E145 was the 4th most used airplane :(

https://www.flystl.com/uploads/document ... -final.pdf


You know what's funny? Their chart seems to show no commercial widebody passenger service in 2018 when I have photographic evidence of one of the Eastern 767 arrivals over the summer. (Which went on for a month or two, as I recall.) Where I don't recall any widebody passenger in 2017 unless that Virgin charter was in 2017. I wonder if some numbers got swapped.
TW AA MU JL KE DL UA LOF GJS SKW WN
STL JFK FRA GVA CDG IAD ORD PVG SGN NRT ICN ATL SFO HKG MDW LGA BNA
L1011 MD82 83 88 B737 738 741 744 762 772 773 777 A320 E175 C700
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:32 pm

2018 figures are out. 15.6 million passengers an increase of 5.9% over 2017.
https://www.flystl.com/newsroom/stl-new ... rs-in-2018
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:44 pm

pmanni1 wrote:
2018 figures are out. 15.6 million passengers an increase of 5.9% over 2017.
https://www.flystl.com/newsroom/stl-new ... rs-in-2018



They needed a presser to communicate this? was there any information shared on potential flights to Europe?
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:08 pm

Glad I didn't get my hopes up, I knew it was just going to be 2018 results.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:25 pm

pmanni1 wrote:
2018 figures are out. 15.6 million passengers an increase of 5.9% over 2017.
https://www.flystl.com/newsroom/stl-new ... rs-in-2018


Interesting. BNA has now leapfrogged STL in total pax. I knew it was probably going to happen sooner or later
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:29 pm

symphonicpoet wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:
Year end noise report out. Includes Aircraft type usage, runway usage, individual airline movements. Interesting stuff. All in chart form. Also shows all the take offs/landing tracks for the busiest day of the year (June 15)

Newest runway used 13% of the time.
E145 was the 4th most used airplane :(

https://www.flystl.com/uploads/document ... -final.pdf


You know what's funny? Their chart seems to show no commercial widebody passenger service in 2018 when I have photographic evidence of one of the Eastern 767 arrivals over the summer. (Which went on for a month or two, as I recall.) Where I don't recall any widebody passenger in 2017 unless that Virgin charter was in 2017. I wonder if some numbers got swapped.


I don't think they count charters in that number. Delta had some aircraft swaps to 767s in 2017
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:29 pm

Fargo wrote:
pmanni1 wrote:
2018 figures are out. 15.6 million passengers an increase of 5.9% over 2017.
https://www.flystl.com/newsroom/stl-new ... rs-in-2018


Interesting. BNA has now leapfrogged STL in total pax. I knew it was probably going to happen sooner or later


Pretty sure AUS did also
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:42 pm

Jshank83 wrote:
Fargo wrote:
pmanni1 wrote:
2018 figures are out. 15.6 million passengers an increase of 5.9% over 2017.
https://www.flystl.com/newsroom/stl-new ... rs-in-2018


Interesting. BNA has now leapfrogged STL in total pax. I knew it was probably going to happen sooner or later


Pretty sure AUS did also


Yes, but BNA and STL are similarly sized WN stations and were neck and neck with each other for the last few years.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:24 am

So the airport closed their backdoor to look at their newly uploaded files easily. What a bunch of party poopers. Probably didn't like the info getting out before their press conference today.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:25 am

I wonder if AUS surpassed BNA.
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:10 am

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I wonder if AUS surpassed BNA.


I don't think so. I looked at some numbers and it didn't look like they would at least for 2018. Not sure on 2019.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:12 am

Intl LFs for July

July
WOW 67% outbound 81% inbound 74% total
Air Canada 84.5% out 92% in
Frontier Cancun 93.5% both ways
Southwest Cancun 98%!! out 92% in

I'll add charters to the spreadsheet

I'll also do domestic sometime in the next week. If you have certain routes you want to know I can do them first.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:14 am

Jshank83 wrote:
Intl LFs for July

July
WOW 67% outbound 81% inbound 74% total
Air Canada 84.5% out 92% in
Frontier Cancun 93.5% both ways
Southwest Cancun 98%!! out 92% in

I'll add charters to the spreadsheet

I'll also do domestic sometime in the next week. If you have certain routes you want to know I can do them first.


Interesting that WOW inbound performance is much better than outbound? I always thought that inbound yields were the main problem with Midwest-Europe flights.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:58 am

kipfilet wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:
Intl LFs for July

July
WOW 67% outbound 81% inbound 74% total
Air Canada 84.5% out 92% in
Frontier Cancun 93.5% both ways
Southwest Cancun 98%!! out 92% in

I'll add charters to the spreadsheet

I'll also do domestic sometime in the next week. If you have certain routes you want to know I can do them first.


Interesting that WOW inbound performance is much better than outbound? I always thought that inbound yields were the main problem with Midwest-Europe flights.


Maybe July 4 played into it and people wanted to stay in town or get back to town for it?I was just surprised that it wasn't higher for July. Figured it would be the strongest month (might still be the strongest but I thought it would be higher). Wow shouldn't have added that 5th weekly it looks like. 4x would have been really good LF wise.

I looked up MCI for Iceland air just to compare and it was 65% out and 78% in. So they also were stronger inbound as well for July.
IND-CDG 50% CDG-IND 92%

So maybe inbounds are just better in July to the midwest.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:31 pm

There was some discussion about this in the IND thread ... June out was great, June in was horrible, then it flips in July.

In a way, it makes sense for an American-based carrier, come June school lets out, etc. and groups take off on their long-planned school trip, families vacation, people get those graduate trip presents, etc. etc. Then in July it's filled with everyone coming back from those same trips, study abroad programs, etc. etc.

For the midwest, it makes sense as I remember that "style" of doing things. Living in NYC for the past couple of years, it's opposite the way many of us do it - just a number of extended weekend trips throughout the year since we are all SINK or DINK.
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:45 am

Uggh I knew this would occur. We have been sitting so long on our dual customs project that a more developed cargo port, specifically the one mentioned that our project would compete with, stole the idea
https://twitter.com/iflymia/status/1090304085532819457
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:53 am

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Uggh I knew this would occur. We have been sitting so long on our dual customs project that a more developed cargo port, specifically the one mentioned that our project would compete with, stole the idea
https://twitter.com/iflymia/status/1090304085532819457

Well, there's only so much the airport can do. AFAIK everything's basically done for it except the permissions from the Mexican government. If and when the approval's granted, it's already planned to be incorporated into the new cargo terminal.

Plus I doubt they "stole" it - it's probably been in the works for just as long as ours.

We'll have to see how much Brazil and Mexico's cargo markets match up. As it stands, I don't really think this announcement does much to hurt our project yet.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:20 pm

WN schedule is out. I am not seeing anything new out there in regards to new NS services. Not sure about increased service to existing routes though.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:05 pm

CUN goes back to Saturday only. But that’s kind of expected.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:33 pm

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CUN goes back to Saturday only. But that’s kind of expected.


Is F9/Apple still daily?
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:32 pm

maps4ltd wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:
CUN goes back to Saturday only. But that’s kind of expected.


Is F9/Apple still daily?


It’s moving to 3x weekly from mid August to mid November.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:24 am

Uploaded the new Southwest schedule.

Up 41 flights YOY (5.1%)
Up 104 flights over August 2017 (14.9%)

119 flights mon-fri +5
84 flights on Saturday +3
124 flights on Sunday +13

PNS sticks around longer than previous years

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:20 am

Looks like the additional 1x daily to DTW, CLE, BNA & DEN that they added for the summer become permanent on this release. BOS goes back to 4x daily.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:42 pm

Speaking of 2018 passenger numbers, if you take the total from BLV and add it to STL, the total is closer to 16 Million. BNA/AUS are both destinations for Allegiant, so in theory if you add the BLV numbers to STL all three airports are pretty close.

BTW after years of reading this forum I just figured out I could post. Years ago I swear you needed to pay to be able to do that.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:47 pm

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BTW after years of reading this forum I just figured out I could post. Years ago I swear you needed to pay to be able to do that.


Yeah, there used to be a one time fee. I've been on this website since 2003, it's changed ownership a few times since then.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:51 pm

dcaproducer wrote:

BTW after years of reading this forum I just figured out I could post. Years ago I swear you needed to pay to be able to do that.


Sometimes I wish that still was the case.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:53 pm

Doing my best to boost STL, booked a trip there for April !

Geoff
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:59 pm

777PHX wrote:
dcaproducer wrote:
BTW after years of reading this forum I just figured out I could post. Years ago I swear you needed to pay to be able to do that.


Yeah, there used to be a one time fee. I've been on this website since 2003, it's changed ownership a few times since then.


Yeah. I've followed A.net for 15+years. Just never posted.
While DC based now, I was born/raised in STL, so always interesting to hear what's going on back there.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:08 pm

are you in the news industry?
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:53 pm

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are you in the news industry?


Used to be in tv news, for about 10 years. I now own a digital media/marketing firm in DC. I travel a lot for work.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:15 pm

Fantastic. I was with Bloomberg and Fox for a number of years after paying dues ar KPLR and the Dispatch.

Now I'm thinking of doing something totally stupid and going back into it

If you have a chance, toss a line. [email protected]
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:16 pm

Fantastic. I was with Bloomberg and Fox for a number of years after paying dues ar KPLR and the Dispatch.

Now I'm thinking of doing something totally stupid and going back into it

If you have a chance, toss a line. [email protected]
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:12 am

Geoff1947 wrote:
Doing my best to boost STL, booked a trip there for April !

Geoff


Where from?
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:45 am

maps4ltd wrote:
Geoff1947 wrote:
Doing my best to boost STL, booked a trip there for April !

Geoff


Where from?


From the UK. Flying LHR - ORD -STL -PHL - LHR with AA/BA.

Geoff
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:24 pm

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Nuts that UA is all RJs. You would think at least one mainline to EWR, ORD, SFO, IAH.



United flies at least mainline per day to Houston Bush, usually in the evening
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:40 pm

tbboko802 wrote:
TWA302 wrote:
Nuts that UA is all RJs. You would think at least one mainline to EWR, ORD, SFO, IAH.



United flies at least mainline per day to Houston Bush, usually in the evening


A random Wednesday June 19th shows IAH with an a319, ORD with a 738 and SFO 2x A320. Probably the most UA mainline I've seen.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:56 pm

dcaproducer wrote:
777PHX wrote:
dcaproducer wrote:
BTW after years of reading this forum I just figured out I could post. Years ago I swear you needed to pay to be able to do that.


Yeah, there used to be a one time fee. I've been on this website since 2003, it's changed ownership a few times since then.


Yeah. I've followed A.net for 15+years. Just never posted.
While DC based now, I was born/raised in STL, so always interesting to hear what's going on back there.


Likewise. Grew up in STL but live in PHX now. I still like to see STL do well though.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:56 pm

pmanni1 wrote:
tbboko802 wrote:
TWA302 wrote:
Nuts that UA is all RJs. You would think at least one mainline to EWR, ORD, SFO, IAH.



United flies at least mainline per day to Houston Bush, usually in the evening


A random Wednesday June 19th shows IAH with an a319, ORD with a 738 and SFO 2x A320. Probably the most UA mainline I've seen.


They run more in summer. DEN had one last year but I think SFO only had 1. ORD didn't have one til fall if I remember correctly. So if DEN comes back 5 would be the most in awhile.

Last winter we had 0 mainlines so the one to Houston is an upgrade. It runs here in the evening and back to IAH in the morning. My wife took it out least week and I am taking it back next weekend.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:20 pm

Geoff1947 wrote:
maps4ltd wrote:
Geoff1947 wrote:
Doing my best to boost STL, booked a trip there for April !

Geoff


Where from?


From the UK. Flying LHR - ORD -STL -PHL - LHR with AA/BA.

Geoff


Nice!

I was just in London this Christmas. Flew STL-MCO-LGW and back on the same routing. STL-MCO and opposite were on WN, and BA was selling some insanely cheap $600 roundtrip on MCO-LGW.
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:22 pm

Jshank83 wrote:
pmanni1 wrote:
tbboko802 wrote:


United flies at least mainline per day to Houston Bush, usually in the evening


A random Wednesday June 19th shows IAH with an a319, ORD with a 738 and SFO 2x A320. Probably the most UA mainline I've seen.


They run more in summer. DEN had one last year but I think SFO only had 1. ORD didn't have one til fall if I remember correctly. So if DEN comes back 5 would be the most in awhile.

Last winter we had 0 mainlines so the one to Houston is an upgrade. It runs here in the evening and back to IAH in the morning. My wife took it out least week and I am taking it back next weekend.


I believe SFO was 737-800/900 sometimes. I saw 2x ORD A319 in the fall. Houston's one mainline has gone between 737-700 and A319/20, but they're still mostly E145.

Echoing some previous sentiments, I do believe UA should at least put some E175s on STL-EWR. I could've sworn I saw an E175 on STL-IAD.
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:24 pm

Anyone have news on the performance of F9's new routes (JAX. PBI, PUJ)? This kind of reminds me of the time they expanded in 2015/16, then cut almost all of it.
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:34 pm

Jshank83 wrote:
Uploaded the new Southwest schedule.

Up 41 flights YOY (5.1%)
Up 104 flights over August 2017 (14.9%)

119 flights mon-fri +5
84 flights on Saturday +3
124 flights on Sunday +13

PNS sticks around longer than previous years

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

Rumors going around the station that WN is getting ready to request 5 more gates be reopened further down D Concourse. Hearing at least 2-3 more for sure. I would guess 5 more would pretty much open up the rest of D Concourse and reconnect it with C Concourse again. Again, rumor only at this point from WN ground ops but given the fact that MDW is maxed out, it seems logical that WN will continue the expansion of D (soon to be E) Concourse.
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:58 pm

Even without hearing reliable rumors, I'd say something along the lines of re-opening most of D to serve Southwest expansion and needs would be a reality within the next 10 years. I'd be willing to entertain the notion it may be within a 5 year range at this point.

A few items of discussion along these lines

1) I brought it up say a month or two ago, but Southwest just moving over to the C concourse in hindsight may make sense some day. At this point, we're probably well past that point of having it happen.

2) If D opens up, it'll be interesting to see how/if Southwest works to make it a better customer experience. I dont think such a thing would happen before they expand the terminal area. What is the timetable on that again? Would Southwest consider splitting their ticketing and check-in and putting a counter in Terminal 1?
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:22 pm

stlgph wrote:
Fantastic. I was with Bloomberg and Fox for a number of years after paying dues ar KPLR and the Dispatch.

Now I'm thinking of doing something totally stupid and going back into it

If you have a chance, toss a line. [email protected]


I'll drop you a line this week.

I grew up flying Ozark and TW and remember the days of the TWA hub. It was crazy busy back then. I also miss the old viewing lot on Lindberg Blvd where you could park and watch the planes landing right over your head. Lots of 727s.

Anyways, I digress. It's nice to see a stable airline like WN growing the station. I'm a DL flier, so it would be nice if DL would show a little love to STL. I miss the DCA-STL flight, but I understand why DL did the LGA slot swap a few years back. I think DL could easily support a flight to LAX & BOS, especially with the A220's.

I think it's a matter of when, not if, WN expands down D, and it will be interesting to see how the airport decides to re-open the concourse. I think it would make sense to use fewer gates, but combine some of the waiting areas to give them a little more elbow room. I haven't been in D in 20 years, so I can't recall each gate area all that well. It would also be cool to see them get all of C re-opened. Good views from the end of the concourse. Does anyone remember the podiums at the end of C that I thought were part of CBP, but now that I think of it may have just been TWA agent podiums.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:32 pm

First - looking forward to it.

Good idea on spreading the "luv" in the D concourse and giving people more room, in general - providing bigger, better restroom areas and bigger areas for more concessions.

And yes, I don't recall many gate areas back in D, but of what I do remember, I remember a gate area or two similar to the current A10/12, small seating area off the main corridor.
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:34 pm

dcaproducer wrote:
stlgph wrote:
Fantastic. I was with Bloomberg and Fox for a number of years after paying dues ar KPLR and the Dispatch.

Now I'm thinking of doing something totally stupid and going back into it

If you have a chance, toss a line. [email protected]


I'll drop you a line this week.

I grew up flying Ozark and TW and remember the days of the TWA hub. It was crazy busy back then. I also miss the old viewing lot on Lindberg Blvd where you could park and watch the planes landing right over your head. Lots of 727s.

Anyways, I digress. It's nice to see a stable airline like WN growing the station. I'm a DL flier, so it would be nice if DL would show a little love to STL. I miss the DCA-STL flight, but I understand why DL did the LGA slot swap a few years back. I think DL could easily support a flight to LAX & BOS, especially with the A220's.

I think it's a matter of when, not if, WN expands down D, and it will be interesting to see how the airport decides to re-open the concourse. I think it would make sense to use fewer gates, but combine some of the waiting areas to give them a little more elbow room. I haven't been in D in 20 years, so I can't recall each gate area all that well. It would also be cool to see them get all of C re-opened. Good views from the end of the concourse. Does anyone remember the podiums at the end of C that I thought were part of CBP, but now that I think of it may have just been TWA agent podiums.


Interesting you mention that. I vaguely remember going with my parents to pick my sister up from her class trip to Paris (this would've been maybe 2000 or pre-9/11 2001) and going airside somewhere to meet her from her plane. How did CBP work back then for arriving passengers? Did they have to clear CBP, then clear security again to get airside, even if STL was their final destination? I guess that also means they collected bags in CBP, had to re-check them, and pick them up again at the belts in T1?

Or maybe they flew CDG-JFK-STL. I don't know.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:12 am

maps4ltd wrote:
Anyone have news on the performance of F9's new routes (JAX. PBI, PUJ)? This kind of reminds me of the time they expanded in 2015/16, then cut almost all of it.


Numbers aren’t out for PBI/PUJ yet. PBIs first should come out this week or next.

Jax is at 72% overall thru October. But it’s increased every month. October was 81% load.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:39 am

SWADawg wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:
Uploaded the new Southwest schedule.

Up 41 flights YOY (5.1%)
Up 104 flights over August 2017 (14.9%)

119 flights mon-fri +5
84 flights on Saturday +3
124 flights on Sunday +13

PNS sticks around longer than previous years

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

Rumors going around the station that WN is getting ready to request 5 more gates be reopened further down D Concourse. Hearing at least 2-3 more for sure. I would guess 5 more would pretty much open up the rest of D Concourse and reconnect it with C Concourse again. Again, rumor only at this point from WN ground ops but given the fact that MDW is maxed out, it seems logical that WN will continue the expansion of D (soon to be E) Concourse.


The next bank down the line has 4 gates in it. So I would assume they would go with 4 next (or at least remodel 4 and open them as needed like they did with E34-40. I have a pdf with all the gate location and diagrams (kind of like a blueprint) if anyone wants any snippets of anything. Apron level and up.

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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:37 pm

Well I know they are saying they want 3 more gates for sure, which according to station personnel (rumor) is a done deal with the City of St. Louis, so your pdf link looks like what they would open up next. My question is whether the City will just then go ahead and reopen the rest of D to connect back up with C again. I’m hoping they will as it will help passengers and crew that need to connect between C and E.
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:06 pm

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SWADawg wrote:
Well I know they are saying they want 3 more gates for sure, which according to station personnel (rumor) is a done deal with the City of St. Louis, so your pdf link looks like what they would open up next. My question is whether the City will just then go ahead and reopen the rest of D to connect back up with C again. I’m hoping they will as it will help passengers and crew that need to connect between C and E.


There’d only be three closed gates left then, right? Seems like a logical way to reduce T2 curb congestion — give people another way out, via T1.

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