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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:20 pm

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Ah, the poor beautiful roof.

Make a wild guess that probably related to a heating/air handling unit.
Needless to say when the terminal was hit with a tornado it caused millions of dollars of "improvements" :yes:

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Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:24 pm

Wouldn't be surprised of that at all given the weather.
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:11 pm

Apparently, due to the shutdown the transtats site isn't being updated. So I won't have any new load factors updates (as well as other things) for awhile.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:09 am

A friend of mine was on the responding fire crew today.

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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:17 pm

The old B hasn't had this much metal since the good old days of TWE.

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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:44 pm

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The old B hasn't had this much metal since the good old days of TWE.

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That's a lot of Delta metal over at A.
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:33 pm

maps4ltd wrote:
TWA302 wrote:
The old B hasn't had this much metal since the good old days of TWE.

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That's a lot of Delta metal over at A.


I was referring to the fire equipment on the ramp, with B to the right. Boarded many a J31/41 and ATRs from here.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:37 pm

While SAV is already served nonstop from many of the major Midwestern markets such as ORD, CVG, CLE, LCK, DTW, IND, and MSP, there is currently no nonstop service to SAV from either STL or BLV. G4 could add BLV-SAV nonstop service since (a) the STL/BLV market is currently the largest market in the Midwest that doesn't have any nonstop service to SAV, (b) G4 already serves SAV nonstop from CVG, CLE, LCK, and IND in the Midwest, and (c) G4 has recently announced plans to serve SAV nonstop from GRR in the Midwest.

Will G4 announce BLV-SAV nonstop service this year?
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:48 pm

jplatts wrote:
While SAV is already served nonstop from many of the major Midwestern markets such as ORD, CVG, CLE, LCK, DTW, IND, and MSP, there is currently no nonstop service to SAV from either STL or BLV. G4 could add BLV-SAV nonstop service since (a) the STL/BLV market is currently the largest market in the Midwest that doesn't have any nonstop service to SAV, (b) G4 already serves SAV nonstop from CVG, CLE, LCK, and IND in the Midwest, and (c) G4 has recently announced plans to serve SAV nonstop from GRR in the Midwest.

Will G4 announce BLV-SAV nonstop service this year?


I could see it as a seasonal route from say April - September. Would be a nice add for sure.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:55 pm

TWA302 wrote:
jplatts wrote:
While SAV is already served nonstop from many of the major Midwestern markets such as ORD, CVG, CLE, LCK, DTW, IND, and MSP, there is currently no nonstop service to SAV from either STL or BLV. G4 could add BLV-SAV nonstop service since (a) the STL/BLV market is currently the largest market in the Midwest that doesn't have any nonstop service to SAV, (b) G4 already serves SAV nonstop from CVG, CLE, LCK, and IND in the Midwest, and (c) G4 has recently announced plans to serve SAV nonstop from GRR in the Midwest.

Will G4 announce BLV-SAV nonstop service this year?


I could see it as a seasonal route from say April - September. Would be a nice add for sure.


This would be filling out most of G4's focus cities from BLV.
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:00 pm

Yesterday, Allegiant announced Cleveland/Cincinnati to Norfolk. For the market niches here, I can't help but think Norfolk, Savannah and Charleston would be lovely adds on Allegiant from St. Louis, but I can't help but ask the question if such markets wouldn't be better served from Lambert, rather than BLV.
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Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:13 pm

stlgph wrote:
Yesterday, Allegiant announced Cleveland/Cincinnati to Norfolk. For the market niches here, I can't help but think Norfolk, Savannah and Charleston would be lovely adds on Allegiant from St. Louis, but I can't help but ask the question if such markets wouldn't be better served from Lambert, rather than BLV.


WN already has seasonal, Sunday-only nonstop service to CHS out of STL. In addition, ORF is already served by WN, even though there is currently no nonstop service to ORF from either STL or BLV. On the other hand, SAV isn't currently served by WN.

While I agree that SAV might be better served from STL rather than BLV, G4 is more likely to add BLV-SAV nonstop service than another airline adding STL-SAV nonstop service. However, SY adding STL-SAV is a possibility since SY already serves SAV nonstop from MSP on a seasonal, less-than-daily basis.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:11 pm

jplatts wrote:
stlgph wrote:
Yesterday, Allegiant announced Cleveland/Cincinnati to Norfolk. For the market niches here, I can't help but think Norfolk, Savannah and Charleston would be lovely adds on Allegiant from St. Louis, but I can't help but ask the question if such markets wouldn't be better served from Lambert, rather than BLV.


WN already has seasonal, Sunday-only nonstop service to CHS out of STL. In addition, ORF is already served by WN, even though there is currently no nonstop service to ORF from either STL or BLV. On the other hand, SAV isn't currently served by WN.

While I agree that SAV might be better served from STL rather than BLV, G4 is more likely to add BLV-SAV nonstop service than another airline adding STL-SAV nonstop service. However, SY adding STL-SAV is a possibility since SY already serves SAV nonstop from MSP on a seasonal, less-than-daily basis.


STL-CHS is Sat and Sun for summer.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:46 pm

STL has the shortest security wait times of the top 40 airports in the country.

https://www.kmov.com/news/study-ranks-l ... 9a6fb.html
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:08 am

Looks like BHM is wanting STL service back. Hopefully WN brings it back. Or maybe Contour but I would prefer WN.

https://www.bizjournals.com/birmingham/ ... yptr=yahoo
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:52 am

It would be absolutely lovely if something like Via or along the lines of what OneJet was wanting to do --- if they could just get their crap together and make it work. Many markets could benefit from such an airline operation and from not being held hostage to the wills and the ways of the powers that be.

In a pretend world where it does all work out, STL is one of those markets where I could see a carrier having a nice portfolio of routes/service and could probably co-exist with service to a number of cities on Southwest, which were former obvious "spoke" cities in the days of the TWA/AA hub. STL has been very lucky Southwest has maintained service to such cities after the elimination of that major competitive hub, but here's hoping such an airline would work and not be deterred by Southwest and Southwest would not be deterred by a successful airline hanging around its turf.
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:04 am

Jshank83 wrote:
Looks like BHM is wanting STL service back. Hopefully WN brings it back. Or maybe Contour but I would prefer WN.

https://www.bizjournals.com/birmingham/ ... yptr=yahoo


I agree that WN could bring back STL-BHM nonstop service since WN has already brought back some other previously discontinued nonstop routes out of STL such as STL-CLE and STL-LIT.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:17 am

So what is missing from the "old school" Southwest days? Is it just Louisville and Indianapolis?
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:25 am

stlgph wrote:
So what is missing from the "old school" Southwest days? Is it just Louisville and Indianapolis?


Louisville, Indy, Albuquerque, Salt Lake, Birmingham from what I can remember.
 
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Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:47 am

N383SW wrote:
stlgph wrote:
So what is missing from the "old school" Southwest days? Is it just Louisville and Indianapolis?


Louisville, Indy, Albuquerque, Salt Lake, Birmingham from what I can remember.


I didn't realize they flew to SLC before. The rest I knew about. ABQ is the one I really want to see back, but I won't hold my breathe.
 
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Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:50 am

Jshank83 wrote:
N383SW wrote:
stlgph wrote:
So what is missing from the "old school" Southwest days? Is it just Louisville and Indianapolis?


Louisville, Indy, Albuquerque, Salt Lake, Birmingham from what I can remember.


I didn't realize they flew to SLC before. The rest I knew about. ABQ is the one I really want to see back, but I won't hold my breathe.


Yeah, my parents used to use the companion pass to go STL-SLC on weekends in the late 90's and early 2000's. Nowadays, they mostly fly either Delta nonstops or Southwest connecting itineraries (usually the latter).
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:35 am

Ah yes, that's right. I knew Birmingham ... as obviously my post was in response to the service coming back and I once flew BDL-BWI-BHM-STL as it is anyway.

I remember ABQ and SLC, too.

Thanks!
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:36 am

Jshank83 wrote:
N383SW wrote:
stlgph wrote:
So what is missing from the "old school" Southwest days? Is it just Louisville and Indianapolis?


Louisville, Indy, Albuquerque, Salt Lake, Birmingham from what I can remember.


I didn't realize they flew to SLC before. The rest I knew about. ABQ is the one I really want to see back, but I won't hold my breathe.


I can’t remener when SLC was discontinued, want to say between 2007 and 2010. Would be nice to see ABQ make a return (actually all of them for that matter lol)
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:48 am

maps4ltd wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:
N383SW wrote:

Louisville, Indy, Albuquerque, Salt Lake, Birmingham from what I can remember.


I didn't realize they flew to SLC before. The rest I knew about. ABQ is the one I really want to see back, but I won't hold my breathe.


Yeah, my parents used to use the companion pass to go STL-SLC on weekends in the late 90's and early 2000's. Nowadays, they mostly fly either Delta nonstops or Southwest connecting itineraries (usually the latter).


I am surprised that WN hasn't yet brought back STL-SLC nonstop service with SLC being one of the largest WN stations that doesn't currently have nonstop service to STL on WN. WN would likely do better on STL-SLC nonstop service than was the case 10 years ago since WN is much bigger at STL today than was the case 10 years ago. There would also be more connecting opportunities at STL from SLC on WN than was the case 10 years ago if WN brings back STL-SLC nonstop service.

WN also used to serve SNA nonstop from STL 3 years ago, but WN dropped STL-SNA nonstop service two years ago due to WN losing slots at SNA. In addition to slot restrictions, SNA also has limits on the number of passengers per year. WN could bring back STL-SNA nonstop service if capacity restrictions are loosened at SNA since STL is one of the top destinations traveled to from SNA that isn't currently served nonstop from SNA.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:36 pm

Good to see that starting June 6th UA is upgrading their 2xdaily to SFO from E175's to A320's. Advance ticket sales must be good.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:53 pm

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Good to see that starting June 6th UA is upgrading their 2xdaily to SFO from E175's to A320's. Advance ticket sales must be good.


Nice last year it ran 1x175 and 1xmainline so that is good they are both going mainline. I was waiting to see if it changed.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:06 am

Where do you see that? JUst curious
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:50 am

kipfilet wrote:
Where do you see that? JUst curious


Are you talking about the UA flights? You can just look at the schedule. Google flights is the easiesr, imo.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:52 pm

Jshank83 wrote:
kipfilet wrote:
Where do you see that? JUst curious


Are you talking about the UA flights? You can just look at the schedule. Google flights is the easiesr, imo.


Yes. thank you, I was not aware that google flights would also give you the equipment type.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:47 pm

WN is adding an extra to STL-ATL flight for the Super Bowl... MAX8
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:43 pm

There still aren't any connections available via MSP on sun country except, ironically, PDX which you can only see if you click into the route a day the nonstop flies, leading me to believe they are intentionally blocking connections
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:45 am

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There still aren't any connections available via MSP on sun country except, ironically, PDX which you can only see if you click into the route a day the nonstop flies, leading me to believe they are intentionally blocking connections


Possibly, but why would they do that? STL-MSP-ANC would be a great connection opportunity!
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:03 am

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There still aren't any connections available via MSP on sun country except, ironically, PDX which you can only see if you click into the route a day the nonstop flies, leading me to believe they are intentionally blocking connections


I also keep looking to see when some will show up. Doesn’t make any sense not to have them. I don’t think they can get enough O&D on that route to support it alone.
 
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Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:22 pm

Jshank83 wrote:
stl07 wrote:
There still aren't any connections available via MSP on sun country except, ironically, PDX which you can only see if you click into the route a day the nonstop flies, leading me to believe they are intentionally blocking connections


I also keep looking to see when some will show up. Doesn’t make any sense not to have them. I don’t think they can get enough O&D on that route to support it alone.


Not sure I would say that, I found some flights for $148 RT. For families taking summer vacations or going to see family, O&D traffic could support that (much better than the $307 on DL, even after bags and seats it would be $75 cheaper). SY is well known in MSP and they seem to be doing well in STL as they have already increased frequencies to RSW this spring.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:05 am

rainaviation wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:
stl07 wrote:
There still aren't any connections available via MSP on sun country except, ironically, PDX which you can only see if you click into the route a day the nonstop flies, leading me to believe they are intentionally blocking connections


I also keep looking to see when some will show up. Doesn’t make any sense not to have them. I don’t think they can get enough O&D on that route to support it alone.


Not sure I would say that, I found some flights for $148 RT. For families taking summer vacations or going to see family, O&D traffic could support that (much better than the $307 on DL, even after bags and seats it would be $75 cheaper). SY is well known in MSP and they seem to be doing well in STL as they have already increased frequencies to RSW this spring.


I just think WN and DL could lower prices enough (and even price match at that level) to make it tough for them to fill a 737 4x a week without connections. Right now there are on average 305 passengers of O&D each direction. So 2 737s. WN is running 3x. DL is running 3x 717, 1x 737, 2x RJ900 over summer. Just going to be a lot of capacity even with WN/DL having connections on one end or the other. DL is down in the $80s some days, WN around $100. With fees on Sun Country you are going to get to those prices quickly. I hope Sun Country does well but I just think it would be smart to add connection options.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:20 am

I haven't looked at the flights, but are the MSP timed to be comings and goings with other flights to Florida?
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:38 am

Friday schedule June

MSP-STL 1240-1510
STL-MSP 1610-1740

PDX-STL 1435-2015
STL-PDX 2110-2315

There are the times. That does make it to late for connections for PDX. But that I think will be fine on O&D.

Google flights shows connections for them but you can't book them. STL-MSP-LAS/SEA/LAX/SMF and more.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:23 am

Jshank83 wrote:
rainaviation wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:

I also keep looking to see when some will show up. Doesn’t make any sense not to have them. I don’t think they can get enough O&D on that route to support it alone.


Not sure I would say that, I found some flights for $148 RT. For families taking summer vacations or going to see family, O&D traffic could support that (much better than the $307 on DL, even after bags and seats it would be $75 cheaper). SY is well known in MSP and they seem to be doing well in STL as they have already increased frequencies to RSW this spring.


I just think WN and DL could lower prices enough (and even price match at that level) to make it tough for them to fill a 737 4x a week without connections. Right now there are on average 305 passengers of O&D each direction. So 2 737s. WN is running 3x. DL is running 3x 717, 1x 737, 2x RJ900 over summer. Just going to be a lot of capacity even with WN/DL having connections on one end or the other. DL is down in the $80s some days, WN around $100. With fees on Sun Country you are going to get to those prices quickly. I hope Sun Country does well but I just think it would be smart to add connection options.


Yeah, I agree, connection options would definitely make their success easier.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:37 am

Filled out the Frequency Spreadsheet for March.

March will have 1699 flight a week out of @flystl. The busiest day will be Thursday with 244.

Southwest is up 33 flights a week over March of last year to 811 (up 99 from Feb). 118 m-f 120 on Sun. This looks like it will be the busiest month for Southwest ever at STL. It starts Punta Cana and Montego Bay. ECP/OAK/PBI also start back up
Frontier is up 7 a week and going to have 7 flights on Mondays. 37 a week total
United will be up 3 flights a week over last year. Will have a mainline 737 on Houston, there were no mainlines last March for United. Also is running an E170 once a day to Newark. So we have one month of something other than just E135s on Newark.
Delta is up 13 flights a week over last March. The Saturday flight to Orlando is back. Salt Lake City is at 3x instead of 2x. LGA gets 2 E170s instead of all CRJ900s. Detroit gets a mainline back from being all RJ in Feb.
American is down 22 flights a from last March. Miami, New York, and Phoenix all down a flight from last March. ORD/CLT/PHL down a mainline. DFW is all mainline now though. LAX went from 2x319 to 2x737. But no more E135s. Just some CRJ200s left on DCA.
Allegiant up 1 flight overall from last March with an add to Destin.

WN 811
AA 258
DL 197
UA 191
F9 37
G4 22
AC 20
AS 14
SY 6

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
 
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Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:30 am

Volaris wants to add more US cities, maybe they can add MEX from here to stop their plane from sitting on the ground for days
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Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:50 am

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Volaris wants to add more US cities, maybe they can add MEX from here to stop their plane from sitting on the ground for days


They don't sit it on the ground for days here, it just flies an empty leg. After it made the runs last weekend it flew to MEX. Seeing how much trouble everyone is having with MEX service I doubt they would fly there from here. I am guessing GDL is more likely, but I am not sure I see them starting anything. Although filling the empty leg with a revenue flight would make sense.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:56 am

Jshank83 wrote:
stl07 wrote:
Volaris wants to add more US cities, maybe they can add MEX from here to stop their plane from sitting on the ground for days


They don't sit it on the ground for days here, it just flies an empty leg. After it made the runs last weekend it flew to MEX. Seeing how much trouble everyone is having with MEX service I doubt they would fly there from here. I am guessing GDL is more likely, but I am not sure I see them starting anything. Although filling the empty leg with a revenue flight would make sense.


Why would there be an empty leg every week? Fly pax from HUX to STL, pick up new pax, fly them back to HUX. Rinse and repeat the same a week or whatever later?
 
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Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:01 am

STLflyer wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:
stl07 wrote:
Volaris wants to add more US cities, maybe they can add MEX from here to stop their plane from sitting on the ground for days


They don't sit it on the ground for days here, it just flies an empty leg. After it made the runs last weekend it flew to MEX. Seeing how much trouble everyone is having with MEX service I doubt they would fly there from here. I am guessing GDL is more likely, but I am not sure I see them starting anything. Although filling the empty leg with a revenue flight would make sense.


Why would there be an empty leg every week? Fly pax from HUX to STL, pick up new pax, fly them back to HUX. Rinse and repeat the same a week or whatever later?


EDIT: I thought the 6am flight to HUX was a dead leg coming in but its from SJD the night before. So they run SJD-STL-HUX-STL-SJD. Not much down time. They could even switch planes in HUX so it doesn't have to be the same one making both runs.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:28 pm

At what point does an airport become a fortress hub? WN has more weekly departures than all of the other airlines combined.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:38 pm

pmanni1 wrote:
At what point does an airport become a fortress hub? WN has more weekly departures than all of the other airlines combined.


Well in "Southwest Speak" maybe you could call it a "Fortress Mega Station" lol
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:22 pm

Tweet from the airport:
With 40 straight months of year-over-year passenger growth, 2018 was a milestone year for the #stlairport! More #avgeek details to be released during a press conference tomorrow at 10:00 AM on the lower level of Terminal 1

The airport hardly has press conferences for anything so I would assume there is more info coming out than some stats.

I emailed the airport the following. They replied with "Most of these questions will be answered tomorrow or asked of us... and we'll answer"

1. I saw the tweet about the press conference tomorrow. Is there more info coming out on it? Or is it just going to be releasing stats? I figure there has to be more to it if they are having a press conference.

2. Any update on the new food establishment coming to T2?

3. Is Sun Country going to sell connections thru MSP? On google flights it shows options like STL-MSP-SEA but when to go to the Sun Country site you can’t book them.

4. Rhonda mentioned in one of the airport commission meetings that you were talking to Iceland air about starting service this year. She acted like you might hear back in January. Is there any update on that? Still possible or probably no flights to Europe in 2019?
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No clue if any huge news like and answer to #4 will come out but I would expect #2 to be answered. Maybe some info on the C renovation. Probably the pick ups and drop offs in T2. Should be interesting either way. Might be kind of a state of the airport thing.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:33 pm

Year end noise report out. Includes Aircraft type usage, runway usage, individual airline movements. Interesting stuff. All in chart form. Also shows all the take offs/landing tracks for the busiest day of the year (June 15)

Newest runway used 13% of the time.
E145 was the 4th most used airplane :(

https://www.flystl.com/uploads/document ... -final.pdf
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:56 pm

pmanni1 wrote:
At what point does an airport become a fortress hub? WN has more weekly departures than all of the other airlines combined.


I think the accepted definition is over 70% of an airport's flights.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:46 am

Jshank83 wrote:
More #avgeek details to be released during a press conference tomorrow at 10:00 AM on the lower level of Terminal 1

The airport hardly has press conferences for anything so I would assume there is more info coming out than some stats.

1. I saw the tweet about the press conference tomorrow. Is there more info coming out on it? Or is it just going to be releasing stats? I figure there has to be more to it if they are having a press conference.


I think that tomorrow's announcement might be NK adding service out of STL since (a) STL is located in the largest U.S. metro area that isn't currently served by NK, (b) STL was served by FL prior to the WN-FL merger, and (c) NK has recently added service to other former FL destinations such as AVL, CMH, IND, JAX, RDU, and RIC.
 
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Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:58 am

jplatts wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:
More #avgeek details to be released during a press conference tomorrow at 10:00 AM on the lower level of Terminal 1

The airport hardly has press conferences for anything so I would assume there is more info coming out than some stats.

1. I saw the tweet about the press conference tomorrow. Is there more info coming out on it? Or is it just going to be releasing stats? I figure there has to be more to it if they are having a press conference.


I think that tomorrow's announcement might be NK adding service out of STL since (a) STL is located in the largest U.S. metro area that isn't currently served by NK, (b) STL was served by FL prior to the WN-FL merger, and (c) NK has recently added service to other former FL destinations such as AVL, CMH, IND, JAX, RDU, and RIC.


Could be, but they haven't teased new service so I don't know what to expect. They also usually put out an email press release to the media before press conferences the night before. That hasn't gone out either yet.
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