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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:41 pm

rrbsztk wrote:
As far as delivery goal for 2019, I have looked fairly extensively and not found any official info from Airbus or Bombardier.
The information in the table for 2019 is pretty solid.
The only numbers that have not been explicitly reported are 1 for Air Canada 6 for Egypt Air.
-Air Canada did report 15 by end of 2020 with deliveries starting end of 2019. A.net user shared it's only 1 in 2019. If anything, they would deliver more than 1.
-EgyptAir reported 12 in 2019-2020 starting Junly 2019 and has MSN 55058-55063 for their first six (per https://www.abcdlist.nl/cseries/cseries.html). Their 7th is 55068 and 8th is 55074. Looking at the list, Air Baltic expects 55071 and Red Wings had expected 55072 and 55073 this year. Unless they really go out of order, since they plan to deliver up to 55073, I assume Egypt Air 55058-55063 will definitely be delivered and likely 55068 and maybe even 55074.So, if anything, they would be delivering more than 6.

Although there is no official delivery goal, I believe 48 is within a couple few of the delivery goal.
Obviously there's some uncertainty here, but
I feel it is safe to say the 2019 delivery goal is high 40s to 50.
(Note this is with Red Wings included - I'm hoping STLC has good news in Paris, but the goal post Red Wings cancellation maybe should be low to mid 40s)

As always, if you have additional or conflicting info please share.

If I remember correctly (announced somewhere in German news this year), delivery goal for 2019 shall be 44. In Q3 it is scheduled to start the production in Mobile, will this one be completed in 2019? (please remind, production of the first one will not start in the A220 FAL instead somewhere in the A320 FAL).
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:22 am

Thanks wrongwayup. Switched Air Canada to firmly reported for 2019 and 2020

Bold is firmly reported in news
Underlined is reported by A.net users
Italics is deliveries evened out across years when no exact breakdown

Delivery Schedule of Reported A220 Deliveries
YEAR......2019...2020...2021...2022...2023...2024...2025
Air Baltic.....8.......12.......12........4
Air Canada 1.......14........15......15
Air Vanuatu 0........2..........2
Delta..........24......18.......12.......17........15
EgyptAir.......6........6
Jet Blue.......0.........1.........6.........8........19.......22......2
Korean Air...1
"Moxy" ........0.........6.......12.......12........15.......15
Swiss.......... 2
??STLC??....6 (Red wings cancelled - is STLC still taking delivery)
YEAR......2019...2020...2021...2022...2023...2024...2025
TOTAL........48......59........59......56......49.......37........2

Orders not included in table:
86 Unlikely to happen imho (10 Braathens, 10 Gulf Air, 10 Odyssey, 40 Republic, 16 Saudi Gulf)
7 Possibly to be added (2 Falcon Aviation, 5 Iraqi Airways)
74 Leasors to be added (20 LCI, 40 Macquaire, 14 IFC)
232 Existing Customer Options (30ea. Air Baltic, Air Canada, Swiss Air, 20 Korean, 60 Jet Blue, 12 EgyptAir, 50 Delta)

Data is in post 59 and 130 in this thread
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:59 am

Thanks a lot for the table with info Rrbsztk.

I hope Iraqi Airways takes the CS300, it can help them open more routes, Recently there has been an increase in tourists to the northern side. Many vloggers are going and it seems to be safe, so yeah CS300 would be a great addition for them.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:43 am

From the table provided by rrbsztk below I understand the target for 2019 deliveries is 48.

From the orders and deliveries spreadsheet you can see there are 15 deliveries until end of May 2019.

So, 33 units must be delivered during the next 7 months. Thus the average delivery rate will be about 4.7 per month, which is achievable considering the fact they delivered 4 units in May.

Is the above correct?


rrbsztk wrote:
NWADTWE16 wrote:
Seems to be picking up nicely then. Forgive me if it's been said already but what is B6 delivery schedule?



YEAR......2019...2020...2021...2022...2023...2024...2025
Air Baltic.....8.......12.......12........4
Air Canada 1.......14........15......15
Air Vanuatu 0........2..........2
Delta..........24......18.......12.......17........15
EgyptAir.......6........6
Jet Blue.......0.........1.........6.........8........19.......22......2
Korean Air...1
"Moxy" ........0.........6.......12.......12........15.......15
Swiss.......... 2
??STLC??....6 (Red wings cancelled - is STLC still taking delivery)
YEAR......2019...2020...2021...2022...2023...2024...2025
TOTAL........48......59........59......56......49.......37........2

Data is mostly in post 59 and about130 in this thread (im on my phone so had to guess post#130)
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:49 pm

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If looking at overall production it's probably worth splitting out the US-bound A223s (Delta, Moxy, JetBlue) to be built in Alabama versus the balance from Mirabel. Might paint an interesting picture of production capacity - I suspect you'll find Mobile to be "full" rather quickly and for a long time, while Mirabel should have some decent availability if targets of 10/mo from there are still reasonable.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:52 pm

wrongwayup wrote:
rrbsztk wrote:
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If looking at overall production it's probably worth splitting out the US-bound A223s (Delta, Moxy, JetBlue) to be built in Alabama versus the balance from Mirabel. Might paint an interesting picture of production capacity - I suspect you'll find Mobile to be "full" rather quickly and for a long time, while Mirabel should have some decent availability if targets of 10/mo from there are still reasonable.



Funny I was looking at the Mobile vs Mirabel split last night trying to figure it out. Ill add that after Paris air show (hoping several orders to add to list)
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:28 pm

rrbsztk wrote:
wrongwayup wrote:
rrbsztk wrote:
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If looking at overall production it's probably worth splitting out the US-bound A223s (Delta, Moxy, JetBlue) to be built in Alabama versus the balance from Mirabel. Might paint an interesting picture of production capacity - I suspect you'll find Mobile to be "full" rather quickly and for a long time, while Mirabel should have some decent availability if targets of 10/mo from there are still reasonable.



Funny I was looking at the Mobile vs Mirabel split last night trying to figure it out. Ill add that after Paris air show (hoping several orders to add to list)


At least for now, any A223s to be operated on the N-register are planned to be built there. Production is supposed to start June/July 2020 (!) and ramp to a capacity of 4/month.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:30 pm

rrbsztk wrote:
wrongwayup wrote:
rrbsztk wrote:
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If looking at overall production it's probably worth splitting out the US-bound A223s (Delta, Moxy, JetBlue) to be built in Alabama versus the balance from Mirabel. Might paint an interesting picture of production capacity - I suspect you'll find Mobile to be "full" rather quickly and for a long time, while Mirabel should have some decent availability if targets of 10/mo from there are still reasonable.



Funny I was looking at the Mobile vs Mirabel split last night trying to figure it out. Ill add that after Paris air show (hoping several orders to add to list)

With the only large known order a US airline, expand mobile.

IAG for 26 a possibility.
AF/KL a maybe.

Tough year.

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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:39 pm


Image.Image.A220-100 ( Bombardier C Series CS100 / BD-500-1A10 ); MSN 50030, reg. N111NG, delivered on 06. June 2019 is Delta’s #.14 Airbus A220-100 aircraft;

…..On the Image.(please click on the image below)

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….Delta Air Lines, Inc.14th Image.A220-100 ( Bombardier.C Series CS100 / BD-500-1A10 ) aircraft (MTOW: 60.781 kg / 134.000 lb); MSN 50030, reg. N111NG, test reg. C-FOVL, with the cabin configuration C12 Y97 and powered by two Image.PW1521GA, ‘2,5’-shaft, high-bypass, geared, turbofan engine (fan diameter: 1.854,2 mm / 73,0 in; BPR: 12,0:1; gear ratio: 3,0625:1; eng. architecture: 1F-]G[-3LPC–8HPC〧2HPT–3LPT), OPR: 50,0:1, each rated at 97,73 kN / 9.966 kgf / 21.970 lbf, was delivered to DL on 06. June 2019, flying on the route YMX - ATL (FLT DAL9938). The aircraft first flew on 25. May 2019.

…..Delta Air LinesAirbus 220-100; MSN 50030, reg. N111NG - delivery flight DAL9938 (click on the image)
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Delta Air LinesAirbus A220-100, reg. N111NG, is the 18th Image.A220 aircraft that left the factory in 2019 and 73rd altogether for the 5 different airlines. Of that number, 22 aircraft are of the type A220-100 and 51 of the type A220-300.
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The list of delivered Bombardier C Series / Airbus A220 aircraft / 07. June 2019
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…..…Bombardier C Series / Airbus A220 aircraft - deliveries by the airlines / 07. June 2019
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...The family of the Image.PW1000G, ‘2,5’-shaft, high-bypass, geared, turbofan engines, previously known as the PurePower Geared Turbofan™ ( GTF ), was currently selected as the propulsion for five aircraft platforms, with the Image.A220, the Image.A320neo family and the Image.E-Jet E2 family already in the commercial service. The Image.Regional Jet ( MRJ ) and the Image.Irkut MC-21 are currently undergoing the flight testing.
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...Image.Airbus A220 - ex Bombardier C Series ( A220-100 - ex CS100 / A220-300 - ex CS300 )
...Image.Airbus A320neo family ( A319neo / A320neo / A321neo )
...Image.Embraer E-Jet E2 family ( ERJ 190-500 / ERJ 190-300 / ERJ 190-400 )
...Image.Mitsubishi Regional Jet ( MRJ70 / MRJ90 )
...Image.Irkut MC-21 ( MC-21-300 )
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...Image
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...The Image.A220-100 ( Bombardier.C Series CS100 / BD-500-1A10 ) aircraft has been certified so far with the three models of the Image.PW1500G, ‘2,5’-shaft, high-bypass, geared, turbofan engines.
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......Image
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...The Image.A220-300 ( Bombardier.C Series CS300 / BD-500-1A11 ) aircraft has been certified so far with the two models of the Image.PW1500G, ‘2,5’-shaft, high-bypass, geared, turbofan engines.
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…...Image
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...A partially reworked original graph below (click on it for a larger view) shows the Image.A220-100 aircraft positioned somewhere between the two new Image.E-Jet E2 aircraft models: E190-E2 ( ERJ 190-300 ) and E195-E2 ( ERJ 190-400 ). Also it’s visible the Image.A220-300 model, in some aspects, is quite comparable with the upcoming Image.737 MAX.7 and Image.A319neo aircraft.
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...However, the possible streched and oftenly mentioned version of the aircraft, Airbus A220-500, would definetely enter the area so far reserved for the already existing single-aisle aircraft models, the Airbus A320neo and the Boeing 737 MAX 8. No doubt, with a stretched A220-500 model, Airbus SE would take the competition well into their own and already existing, but also Boeing’s narrobodies’ domain.
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...The assumption is that for the Image.A220-500 aircraft model six additional sections (three sections before the wing and three after, keeping the center of gravity in its present place without further changes) with the windows and the frames would be needed to accommodate an additional four (5-abreast seating) rows (32,0 in / 81,3 cm pitch) to get additional 20 seats. This would extend the aircraft’s length by 3,2 m / 10,5 ft. This way the aircraft would be close to 42,0 m / 137,8 ft of the length and there would be a risk the tail can hit the ground when rotating for takeoff. The Airbus A321 has the same risk of hitting the ground when rotating and landing as a A220-500 would have. Therefore Airbus SE, just to maintain the A321’s performance, has included double-slotted flaps and minor trailing edge modifications, increasing the wings’ area from 124 mImage (1.330 sq ft) to 128 mImage (1.380 sq ft). The result was that the wing’s maximum lift could be attained at a lower angle of attack. This increased the tail clearance for the type at take-off and landing. If it appears Airbus A220-500 might get the same technical solution applied to its wings. There is also a possibility of streching the aircraft by five sections, three before the wings and two after, reducing the seating capacity by one row of the seats… It remains to be seen what and if Airbus will decide in a possible case of the Airbus A220-500 project; an even or un-even frame stretch, five or six frames …
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...Image
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...With a expected maximum takeoff weight (MTOW) increase of five tonnes, the induced drag will not increase significantly during the cruise. The engine can therefore stay the same from a cruise thrust point of view, but the question is how will the aircraft size increase affect on takeoff and landing performances. With the assumption the balanced field length for take-off stays close to that of the Airbus A220-300 model, we can just presume if the most powerful model of the Pratt & Whitney’s PW1500G, ‘2,5’-shaft, high-bypass, geared, turbofan engine - PW1525G, with the same sea-level static thrust rating to that of the Image.PW1524G engine rated at 108,54 kN / 11.068 kgf / 24.400 lbf, but 5 % increased trough the thrust bump to 113,96 kN / 11.621 kgf / 25.620 lbf in non-static conditions at speeds over M 0,1 / 66,7 kts / 123 kmph at sea level airfields, will be of the sufficient thrust for the streched version of the aircraft. I just hope the Pratt & Whitney, if Image.A220-500 appears, will readily meet its appearance regardless of whether it will be with thrust bumped engines or by the engines of the increased core’s power obtained through the hot route (increasing the turbine’s inlet temperature by changing the engine’s overall pressure ratio) or through the cold route (increasing core’s mass flow)...
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…..On the early Image.V2500 turbofan engines, which were a little short of thrust, especially at high OATs (outside/ambient air temperatures) and/or HEAs (high elevation airports), IAE International Aero Engines AG devised a method to increase the thrust by pushing more fuel into the engine once the take-off roll had started. This was called 'Thrust Bump' and was selected by pressing either of the two guarded pushbuttons on the back of the thrust levers.
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Delta Air LinesAirbus A220-100; MSN 50021, reg. N102DU, powered by Pratt & Whitney PW1521GA GTF engines with fan cowls and thrust reversers open
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…..The principle is that as the aircraft move forward the ram air reduces the depression in the inlet, thereby increasing the mass airflow. As this occurs, with a set EPR (Engine Pressure Ratio), the EGT (Exhaust Gas Temperature) would reduce. Therefore at this point the FADEC automatically introduces more fuel to give higher thrust and 'recover' the lost EGT, and as a result more thrust occurs.
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…..The engine pressure ratio ( EPR ) is the total pressure ratio across a jet engine, measured as the ratio of the total pressure at the exit of the propelling nozzle divided by the total pressure at the entry to the compressor. To determine EPR, pressure measurements are taken by probes installed in the engine inlet and at the turbine exhaust. Jet engines use either EPR or compressor / fan RPM as an indicator of thrust. Differs depending where the probes are positioned. Pratt & Whitney uses different locations to Rolls-Royce, therefore for the same thrust amount the EPRs will differ significantly. Rolls-Royce uses the integrated engine pressure ratio ( IEPR ) as they use Exhaust (Hot stream) + Fan Exit (Cold Stream) divided by Exhaust pressure.
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…..The integrated engine pressure ratio ( IEPR ) is the ratio of the pressure at the core engine exhaust and fan discharge pressure compared to the intake pressure to the gas turbine engine. The IEPR is an engine indicator system unique to the Image.RB211, three-shaft, high-bypass, turbofan engines. In most gas turbine engines the engine pressure ratio ( EPR ) is used instead, which is the core engine exhaust pressure compared to the intake pressure to the gas turbine engine. I guess the Rolls-Royce has stopped using IEPR on their RB211-524G/H three-shaft, high-bypass turbofans, used on the Image.747 and 767 aircraft.
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...Given the fact the Pratt & Whitney.PW1100G-JM engine has a gearbox between the fan and low-pressure ( N1 ) shaft, unlike conventional engines such as the IAE V2500, this enables the fan, the low-pressure compressor ( LPC ) and the low-pressure turbine ( LPT ) to rotate at speeds closer to their most efficient speed. Hence, on the Image.PW1100G-JM engine (eng. architecture: 1F-]G[-3LPC–8HPC2HPT–3LPT), there is a need for less stages in the LPC (1 less) and LPT (2 less), compared to the Image.V2500 engine (eng. architecture: 1F+4LPC–10HPC2HPT–5LPT). As the high-pressure compressor ( HPC ) on the PW1100G-JM engine operates at higher speed, it can have 2 less stages than the HPC on the IAE V2500 engine. The PW1100G-JM has a total number of 16 stages: 3 ( LPC ), 8 ( HPC ), 2 ( HPT ) and 3 ( LPT ). The reduction in number of stages offsets some of the additional weight introduced by the gearbox. Further weight reduction is achieved in the LPT by the adoption of TiAl alloys in the last stages of the LPT. TiAl alloys were first used in the rotating parts of the LPT blades on the Image.GEnx engine and are currently adopted in the Image.-.1A / 1B / 1C engines as well. While the General Electric is acknowledged as the first to embrace the utilisation of TiAl alloys, Pratt & Whitney together with MTU Aero Engines have introduced in engine manufacturing a third generation of TiAl alloys that can run hotter and faster. TiAl alloys are lightweight heat-resistant, and the novel type used in the PW1100G-JM’s LPT blades, the β-stabilised γ-TiAl alloy ( TNM ), are at the upper strength limit of titanium aluminides. As a result of the fewer stages, the PW1100G-JM has significantly fewer parts than the engines currently powering Image.A320ceo aircraft. This should help contain maintenance costs. P&W have extensively tested the gearbox itself, and it has been designed with no significant scheduled maintenance requirements for its life. The gearbox does not contain any LLPs (life-limited part) unlike other engine sections. The LPC and HPC feature integrally bladed one-piece disks (blisks) on the P&W PW1100G-JM engine, unlike the IAE V2500 which has individual blades installed on each disk. In addition to aerodynamic improvements that reduce leakage flows, one advantage of the blisks is that there is a significant weight saving, compared to conventional bladed disks. However, the disadvantage is that if a blade fails and is not repairable, the entire blisk could require replacement.
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...Regardless of the difficulties this engine was running through since its introduction into regular use, such as start-up delays, combustion chamber degradation, No. 3 bearing carbon-air seal problems, fan blades’ defects, HPC knife edge seal cracking and accessory gearbox case crack, I believe it has a great potential to mark a very long period in a civil aviation. The indisputable and obvious fact is that the engine's initial difficulties have turned into the story that for some of its users became just too long, uncertain and too much troublesome so they started to give up on this engine. Designing an engine is one thing, producing at volume is another.
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...One of the main, and probably the biggest, Pratt & Whitney’s concern and issue in the production of the geared turbofan engines was their suppliers’ incompetence and inability of delivering the parts and materials at expected level of quality. Unlike with the previous generations of the engines, 80 % of the parts for the geared turbofans are made by entities other than the Pratt & Whitney itself, then shipped and assembled in the company’s engine manufacturing centers. The other big problem was in poorly organized production lines. I believe the situation now looks quite different and far better, but the main question is whether it’s all good enough in this moment. The accumulated dissatisfaction with the quality and the availability of this engine, especially those of the series Image.PW1100G-JM, aimed for the Image.A320neo family of the aircraft and produced in the largest quantity, is just clustered and very noticeable …
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...From the very beginning I was thinking this GTF engine would be of incomparably higher quality and reliability if it was developed, constructed and manufactured through the joint venture of the Pratt & Whitney, Rolls-Royce, MTU Aero Engines and Japanese Aero Engines Corporation, once already associated in the Image.IAE International Aero Engines AG joint venture…
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...In the same time I am very dissapointed and confused by the fact all this have been happening in the factory of a such history and tradition, however some recent Pratt & Whitney’s commercial aircraft engines’ problems clerly show you just can’t live on the old glory and a long tradition. The capable, hardworking, motivated and devoted people are those who give the value to the factory, and not its name. Although the production of the commercial engines belongs to the different division of the factory, I guess the engineers that were designing the GTF engine had on the disposition at least some of the in-house technology and know-how of the factory known for some very famous and great engines’ designs used in military aviation, like Image.F100.-PW- 229 EEP, twin-shaft, low-bypass, afterburning turbofan engine (fan diameter: 34,8 in / 883,9 mm; BPR: 0,36:1; eng. architecture: 3F–10HPC2HPT–2LPT), OPR: 32,0:1, used on the Image.F-15 Eagle.version E Strike Eagle and General Dynamics.F-16 Fighting Falcon.C/D.Block 52 (Plus), fourth generation U.S. fighter jets, but also on those engines aimed for the fifth generation U.S. military aircraft: Image.F119.-PW-100 (company designation PW5000), twin-shaft, low-bypass, afterburning turbofan engine (fan diameter: 42,0 in / 1.066,8 mm; BPR: 0,45:1; eng. architecture: 3F– 6HPC1HPT–1LPT), OPR 35,0:1, used on the Image.F-22A Raptor and Image.F135.-PW-.100 / 400 / 600, twin-shaft, low-bypass, afterburning turbofan engine (fan diameter: 43,0 in / 1092,2 mm / lift fan: 51,0 in / 1.346,2 mm; BPR: [(ser. 100/400) 0,57 / (ser. 600) 0,56, powered lift 0,51]:1 ; eng. architecture: 3F– 6HPC1HPT–2LPT), OPR: 28,2:1 (29,0:1 powered lift) engine used on the Image.F-35 Lightning II.Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) family of aircraft; variant A aimed for the conventional takeoff and landing - CTOL / variant B aimed for short take-off and vertical-landing - STOVL / variant C aimed for carrier-based Catapult Assisted Take-Off Barrier Arrested Recovery - CATOBAR
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Revelation wrote:
We have the famous quote from Faury: "As the A220 program evolves and becomes a commercial success you could expect Airbus to invest in it further as we have done with the A320 family". So we have the expectation of success in the commercial realm, but that is a precondition for further investment…


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...In one moment the aircraft of the Bombardier's C series became the adults who could no longer rely on security and sufficient support of their family home. They had to leave and continue to press forward through the life alone and rather unprotected. For one they were a threat and they wanted to get rid of them at all costs. On their luck and the wellbeing of the world aviation, the other decided to give them their support, knowledge, experience and finally a new home. What a great and wonderful decision it was to do something like that ...
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:15 pm

wrongwayup wrote:
rrbsztk wrote:
wrongwayup wrote:

If looking at overall production it's probably worth splitting out the US-bound A223s (Delta, Moxy, JetBlue) to be built in Alabama versus the balance from Mirabel. Might paint an interesting picture of production capacity - I suspect you'll find Mobile to be "full" rather quickly and for a long time, while Mirabel should have some decent availability if targets of 10/mo from there are still reasonable.



Funny I was looking at the Mobile vs Mirabel split last night trying to figure it out. Ill add that after Paris air show (hoping several orders to add to list)


At least for now, any A223s to be operated on the N-register are planned to be built there. Production is supposed to start June/July 2020 (!) and ramp to a capacity of 4/month.

Sorry but: As I had understood, that the production of the first A220 will start already in Q3 2019 in Mobile. This one (or these, who knows) will not been produced in the new A220 FAL which is stil in construction now, instead somewhere in the A320 FAL building. And the first delivery of the first A220 produced in the new constructed A220 FAL is scheduled for mid 2020 (so not the start of the production in the new FAL will begin in mid 2020).

All sources were regarding the Airbus 3 day tour with 50 reportes through all facilities in USA and Canada in Jan-2019.
Sources: Prduction starts Q3 2019
https://airwaysmag.com/manufacturer/airbus-breaks-ground-a220-mobile/
Production at the A220 Final Assembly Line is scheduled to commence Q3 2019 in existing Airbus America facilities with first deliveries scheduled for 2020 meaning that the plant will be complete by the end of the first half of 2019. 

Production starts in A320 FAL building in Q3 2019. In another forum, some one wrote, in this News it is stated, production will be somewhere in the A320 FAL https://aviationweek.com/commercial-aviation/airbus-a320-a220-evolution-considered-mobile-expands . This is behind a paywall.

First delivery from A220 Mobile FAL in mid 2020:
 (The Mobile A220 final assembly line will deliver its first A220 in mid-2020. Full production capacity is 4/mo.)

https://leehamnews.com/2019/01/21/pontifications-the-airbus-north-america-tour/
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:34 pm

Great post mfranjic, lots of facts and background information, I appreciate the hard work!
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:45 pm

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Yes, you're right, that should read first delivery in 2020. Production will have started up the supply chain long ago.
 
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Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:21 pm

wrongwayup wrote:
T4thH wrote:
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Yes, you're right, that should read first delivery in 2020. Production will have started up the supply chain long ago.

but also you can be correct, I have already seen so many discrepancies regarding start and delivery dates in A220 program in news...

I hope to see some more information during Paris air show or latest in Q3, when the production in Mobile will start. Latest than we will see many official announcements.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:52 am

I've been trying to find a source for this but for the life of me I can't...so it's possible I'm remembering something from A.net that isn't solid fact.

I know I distinctly remeber reading that the first A220s from Mobile would be built in Mirabel and sent to Mobile for paint/interior installation using the A320 space. Anyone else have any recollection of this?

Looking at ABCDlist https://www.abcdlist.nl/cseries/cseries.html Delta has 6 A223 on the list. Serial #s 55069, 70, 75, 80, 84, and 85. I'm trying to figure out if these serial numbers are for Mobile or for Mirabel.

People more familiar with MSNs...is it standard practice to have different numbering by assembly line (like mobile would be #s 60xxx and 65xxx while 50xxx and 55xxx in Mirabel) or is it possible 55069 and 55070 are Mobile #s and 55068 and 55071 are Mirabel?
 
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Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:54 am

Mario, great info! You put a lot of time and effort in collecting & structuring. Maybe you can considering spreading it out in a number of post & reducing hot links and logo's. Otherwise it is hard to read and process ;). Still great to have you here
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Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:13 am

I wonder who/if orders A220s at Paris. Let's hope that, with the production mess being sorted out, more airlines will start ordering them. It sure needs more orders to justify the 10/month production rate.
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:16 am

rrbsztk wrote:
I've been trying to find a source for this but for the life of me I can't...so it's possible I'm remembering something from A.net that isn't solid fact.

I know I distinctly remeber reading that the first A220s from Mobile would be built in Mirabel and sent to Mobile for paint/interior installation using the A320 space. Anyone else have any recollection of this?

Looking at ABCDlist https://www.abcdlist.nl/cseries/cseries.html Delta has 6 A223 on the list. Serial #s 55069, 70, 75, 80, 84, and 85. I'm trying to figure out if these serial numbers are for Mobile or for Mirabel.

People more familiar with MSNs...is it standard practice to have different numbering by assembly line (like mobile would be #s 60xxx and 65xxx while 50xxx and 55xxx in Mirabel) or is it possible 55069 and 55070 are Mobile #s and 55068 and 55071 are Mirabel?


Yes I can confirm, I remember the same but I do not remember, where I have seen it. Either it was part of a comment section of a news or it was part of a discussion in a forum/board (in this case A380 Boards) or it was stated by someone, who could read a news behind a paywall ( and than stated it in A380 Boards). This is the reason, why I have still not stated it in here. I am pretty sure, I have not read the news itself or was not able to read.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:57 pm

rrbsztk wrote:
I've been trying to find a source for this but for the life of me I can't...so it's possible I'm remembering something from A.net that isn't solid fact.

I know I distinctly remeber reading that the first A220s from Mobile would be built in Mirabel and sent to Mobile for paint/interior installation using the A320 space. Anyone else have any recollection of this?

Looking at ABCDlist https://www.abcdlist.nl/cseries/cseries.html Delta has 6 A223 on the list. Serial #s 55069, 70, 75, 80, 84, and 85. I'm trying to figure out if these serial numbers are for Mobile or for Mirabel.

People more familiar with MSNs...is it standard practice to have different numbering by assembly line (like mobile would be #s 60xxx and 65xxx while 50xxx and 55xxx in Mirabel) or is it possible 55069 and 55070 are Mobile #s and 55068 and 55071 are Mirabel?


50xxx are -100s, 55xxx are -300s. I don't believe Airbus has a different serial numbering scheme for A32x built in the different assembly facilities but I could be wrong.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:58 pm

My money's on a small top-up from Delta. Single digit number of airframes.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:08 pm

T4thH wrote:
rrbsztk wrote:
I've been trying to find a source for this but for the life of me I can't...so it's possible I'm remembering something from A.net that isn't solid fact.

I know I distinctly remeber reading that the first A220s from Mobile would be built in Mirabel and sent to Mobile for paint/interior installation using the A320 space. Anyone else have any recollection of this?

Looking at ABCDlist https://www.abcdlist.nl/cseries/cseries.html Delta has 6 A223 on the list. Serial #s 55069, 70, 75, 80, 84, and 85. I'm trying to figure out if these serial numbers are for Mobile or for Mirabel.

People more familiar with MSNs...is it standard practice to have different numbering by assembly line (like mobile would be #s 60xxx and 65xxx while 50xxx and 55xxx in Mirabel) or is it possible 55069 and 55070 are Mobile #s and 55068 and 55071 are Mirabel?


Yes I can confirm, I remember the same but I do not remember, where I have seen it. Either it was part of a comment section of a news or it was part of a discussion in a forum/board (in this case A380 Boards) or it was stated by someone, who could read a news behind a paywall ( and than stated it in A380 Boards). This is the reason, why I have still not stated it in here. I am pretty sure, I have not read the news itself or was not able to read.


It has been postulated since day 1 of the Mobile factory announcement that Mobile could be a completion center. Others have pointed out that the CSERIES is not certified to fly in a less than fully completed configuration. Others have said such a configuration could be approved if adequate engineering work was done.

Nothing, near as I can tell, has been officially announced. It would make a lot of sense to use Mobile as a completion center until FAL1 in Montreal reaches full capacity.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:12 pm

wrongwayup wrote:

At least for now, any A223s to be operated on the N-register are planned to be built there. Production is supposed to start June/July 2020 (!) and ramp to a capacity of 4/month.


Am I correct in understanding "N-register" is the N in N114DU number for Delta and it signifies a USA based airline?
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:30 pm

rrbsztk wrote:
wrongwayup wrote:

At least for now, any A223s to be operated on the N-register are planned to be built there. Production is supposed to start June/July 2020 (!) and ramp to a capacity of 4/month.


Am I correct in understanding "N-register" is the N in N114DU number for Delta and it signifies a USA based airline?


Yes, the “N-register” is a colloquial term for the US aircraft registry.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:36 pm

rrbsztk wrote:
wrongwayup wrote:

At least for now, any A223s to be operated on the N-register are planned to be built there. Production is supposed to start June/July 2020 (!) and ramp to a capacity of 4/month.


Am I correct in understanding "N-register" is the N in N114DU number for Delta and it signifies a USA based airline?

"N-registered aircraft" means an aircraft that is in the registry of the Federal Aviation Administration of the United States of America; all aircraft operated by US airlines are N-registered.

But, there are also some foreign airlines who have N-registered aircraft: Avianca Central America for example, an airline based in El Salvador (and formerly known as TACA) has N-registered aircraft although the country has its own National Aviation Authority (Autoridad de Aviación Civil, www.aac.gob.sv) and uses the YS-xxx format (so, the aircraft would be "YS-registered").
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:32 pm

T4thH wrote:
rrbsztk wrote:
I've been trying to find a source for this but for the life of me I can't...so it's possible I'm remembering something from A.net that isn't solid fact.

I know I distinctly remember reading that the first A220s from Mobile would be built in Mirabel and sent to Mobile for paint/interior installation using the A320 space. Anyone else have any recollection of this?

Looking at ABCDlist https://www.abcdlist.nl/cseries/cseries.html Delta has 6 A223 on the list. Serial #s 55069, 70, 75, 80, 84, and 85. I'm trying to figure out if these serial numbers are for Mobile or for Mirabel.

People more familiar with MSNs...is it standard practice to have different numbering by assembly line (like mobile would be #s 60xxx and 65xxx while 50xxx and 55xxx in Mirabel) or is it possible 55069 and 55070 are Mobile #s and 55068 and 55071 are Mirabel?


Yes I can confirm, I remember the same but I do not remember, where I have seen it. Either it was part of a comment section of a news or it was part of a discussion in a forum/board (in this case A380 Boards) or it was stated by someone, who could read a news behind a paywall ( and than stated it in A380 Boards). This is the reason, why I have still not stated it in here. I am pretty sure, I have not read the news itself or was not able to read.


Interesting to note on the ABCDlist is that these first 6 223s for Delta are showing as if they will be flight tested with C registry. Would that be the case if they are assembled in Mobile?

Edit: Checked flightradar24 and 321 test flights from KBFM are with F registry:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... u#1eb0c54b
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:09 am

The FAL hangar is moving along pretty well here in Mobile. Appears as though its going to mirror the Airbus FAL hangar. I would post a pic of it but its been made so idiotic to just upload a picture here now that one would have to have a computer degree to do it.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:37 pm

Fixinthe757 wrote:
The FAL hangar is moving along pretty well here in Mobile. Appears as though its going to mirror the Airbus FAL hangar. I would post a pic of it but its been made so idiotic to just upload a picture here now that one would have to have a computer degree to do it.


Do you know anybody who regularly takes photos of Aircraft at Mobile (BFM)?
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:23 pm

Fixinthe757 wrote:
The FAL hangar is moving along pretty well here in Mobile. Appears as though its going to mirror the Airbus FAL hangar. I would post a pic of it but its been made so idiotic to just upload a picture here now that one would have to have a computer degree to do it.


Do you know if it will be an FAL1 building? Complete with the internal positioning system?
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:30 pm

Fixinthe757 wrote:
The FAL hangar is moving along pretty well here in Mobile. Appears as though its going to mirror the Airbus FAL hangar. I would post a pic of it but its been made so idiotic to just upload a picture here now that one would have to have a computer degree to do it.

80% of my time on a.net is on an ipad safari, and its not the best experience other than reading the tjreads, i find the app for the forum that’s usable on your smartphone so much better for posting, its as easy as sending a picture on whatsapp or imessage, its called tapatalk and its free on appstore and google play.
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:19 am

I occasionally will take some pics here at BFM since I work here.
Not sure about the FAL1 building, but its very likely going to be just like the Airbus FAL. Will know more as it continues.
Guess ill have to try other apps as dropbox apparently didn't work. I sent a pic of the Bruins painted JetBlue when it emerged from the pant shop here but no one (but me apparently) was able to see it
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:14 am

Fixinthe757 wrote:
I occasionally will take some pics here at BFM since I work here.
Not sure about the FAL1 building, but its very likely going to be just like the Airbus FAL. Will know more as it continues.
Guess ill have to try other apps as dropbox apparently didn't work. I sent a pic of the Bruins painted JetBlue when it emerged from the pant shop here but no one (but me apparently) was able to see it


You could always try to use Flickr. Many aviation photographers seem to use that.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:02 pm

News in German, still not seen here according interview with Korean Air Ceo Cho Won-tae at IATA AMG 2019.
Korean Air is interested in further orders of the A220 Family, especially they are interested in a prolonged Version of the A220 (so the postulated "A220-500"). The fleet of a number of 10xA220-300 is to small for them, they will need more jets, They are really happy with the A220-300 performance/jet also they have had some trouble with the new jet at the begin (stated as normal/as expected for a new jet).
Mentioned by AERO is a reminder regarding flight HL8314 and the engine on fire in Dec-2018.

As they had also ordered 737 MAX, they will first have to wait, how this will end, before they will decide if and when they will order further A220.

Statement regarding A220 further developement by Airbus with link to one interview; Airbus will first ramp up the production, reduce the production costs,(by reducing costs by vendors) and increasing range of A220-100 and A220-300.
https://www.aero.de/news-31824/Korean-Air-interessiert-an-gestreckter-A220.html

EDIT: also shorthly mentioned in Fliegerfaust.
https://www.fliegerfaust.com/airbus-a220-extended-version-2638663842.html
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:29 pm

Any news regarding Swiss' remaining A220-100s?
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:07 pm

A321Lufthansa wrote:
Any news regarding Swiss' remaining A220-100s?

The last for Swiss is alredy delivered. Now only A220 for Delta and Air Baltic are in production, till the first for Egypt air will be produced.

Regarding the 30 options; regarding the bad Q4 2018 and Q1-2019 numbers, LH Group Boards have stopped further orders for small-bodies, if I had understood it correctly. They have now just trasferred the jets between the single airlines, to reduce the zoo/per airline.
I only expect some A321 XLR oerders at Paris Air Show, else only new A220 orders next year.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:19 pm

Actually, 2 A220-100's remain to be delivered to SWISS. One apparently is in production, the other, apparently in outside storage.

T4thH wrote:
A321Lufthansa wrote:
Any news regarding Swiss' remaining A220-100s?

The last for Swiss is alredy delivered. Now only A220 for Delta and Air Baltic are in production, till the first for Egypt air will be produced.

Regarding the 30 options; regarding the bad Q4 2018 and Q1-2019 numbers, LH Group Boards have stopped further orders for small-bodies, if I had understood it correctly. They have now just trasferred the jets between the single airlines, to reduce the zoo/per airline.
I only expect some A321 XLR oerders at Paris Air Show, else only new A220 orders next year.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:28 pm

Jetsouth wrote:
Actually, 2 A220-100's remain to be delivered to SWISS. One apparently is in production, the other, apparently in outside storage.

T4thH wrote:
A321Lufthansa wrote:
Any news regarding Swiss' remaining A220-100s?

The last for Swiss is alredy delivered. Now only A220 for Delta and Air Baltic are in production, till the first for Egypt air will be produced.

Regarding the 30 options; regarding the bad Q4 2018 and Q1-2019 numbers, LH Group Boards have stopped further orders for small-bodies, if I had understood it correctly. They have now just trasferred the jets between the single airlines, to reduce the zoo/per airline.
I only expect some A321 XLR oerders at Paris Air Show, else only new A220 orders next year.

Sorry, you are right. The last A220-300 was delivered in Jan-2019. I am not aware of the last two A220-100.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:35 pm

Spoke to two pilots yesterday morning in DTW. They were flying a proving run on N112DU DTW-DTW. I had just flown the A220 Wednesday night DTW-EWR (Great flight fantastic aircraft). The pilots and DL had asked me to provide customer feedback on my A220 flight. They told me that delta plans to end up with 125 A220's across the two variants. (Are their options that are not being reflected at this point?) or is the 125 number just a soft plan at this point?

Currently DL A220 Fleet (90 total orders)
A220-100: 14 Delivered 26 firm order
A220-300: 50 Firm Orders

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N11 ... /KDTW/KDTW
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:33 pm

Delta has still 35 options left.
90 firm + 35 options-> 125
In this case, Wikipedia is not bad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Airbus_A220_orders_and_deliveries
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:21 am

Ill check out Flickr, as Tapatalk was not gonna work for me
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:55 am

T4thH wrote:
Delta has still 35 options left.
90 firm + 35 options-> 125
In this case, Wikipedia is not bad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Airbus_A220_orders_and_deliveries


This is incorrect. Original order was 75 firm + 50 options = 125 A220s. That's what Delta was referring to with the 125 figure. However, an order was placed last year for 15 additional 220-300s. That's now 90 firm (40 -100s, 50 -300s), + 50 options = 140 total. The 15 A220-300 order was new, and not an exercising of options, and 50 still remain.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:56 am

Korean Air is interested in a stretched variant of the Airbus A220, Cho Won-tae say so.

https://airlinerwatch.com/korean-air-is-interested-in-a-stretched-variant-of-the-airbus-a220/

but we seem to agree getting production rates up / reducing cost per unit is the highest priorityfor Airbus Canada. .
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:50 pm

After a few years in passenger service, it seems the CSeries / A220 is doing pretty well in service with regards to reliability, fuel efficiency & passenger feed-back. We now have to see how the hours are going to work on the aircraft (engines, SB, AD's, checks) but all is still under warrantly. It seems at this stage BBD engineers / supply chain did a pretty good job on the A220.
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:20 pm

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It seems at this stage BBD engineers / supply chain did a pretty good job on the A220.


Thanks, many of us worked hard on it and we're proud about it.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:56 pm

keesje wrote:
After a few years in passenger service, it seems the CSeries / A220 is doing pretty well in service with regards to reliability, fuel efficiency & passenger feed-back. We now have to see how the hours are going to work on the aircraft (engines, SB, AD's, checks) but all is still under warrantly. It seems at this stage BBD engineers / supply chain did a pretty good job on the A220.

Doing much better:

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... ential?amp

Engine seals are almost completely replaced. That fixes dispatch reliability.

The combustors currently only have a 13,000 hr life. Oops. Design was 48,000 hr. So right now, about a 3 year life until 1st overhaul. An ouch on warranty bills, but not the end if the world.

I believe sales will now increase.

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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:16 pm

lightsaber wrote:
keesje wrote:
After a few years in passenger service, it seems the CSeries / A220 is doing pretty well in service with regards to reliability, fuel efficiency & passenger feed-back. We now have to see how the hours are going to work on the aircraft (engines, SB, AD's, checks) but all is still under warrantly. It seems at this stage BBD engineers / supply chain did a pretty good job on the A220.

Doing much better:

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... ential?amp

Engine seals are almost completely replaced. That fixes dispatch reliability.

The combustors currently only have a 13,000 hr life. Oops. Design was 48,000 hr. So right now, about a 3 year life until 1st overhaul. An ouch on warranty bills, but not the end if the world.

I believe sales will now increase.

Lightsaber


Good news. Does this apply to all versions?
 
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Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:01 pm

StTim wrote:
lightsaber wrote:
keesje wrote:
After a few years in passenger service, it seems the CSeries / A220 is doing pretty well in service with regards to reliability, fuel efficiency & passenger feed-back. We now have to see how the hours are going to work on the aircraft (engines, SB, AD's, checks) but all is still under warrantly. It seems at this stage BBD engineers / supply chain did a pretty good job on the A220.

Doing much better:

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... ential?amp

Engine seals are almost completely replaced. That fixes dispatch reliability.

The combustors currently only have a 13,000 hr life. Oops. Design was 48,000 hr. So right now, about a 3 year life until 1st overhaul. An ouch on warranty bills, but not the end if the world.

I believe sales will now increase.

Lightsaber


Good news. Does this apply to all versions?

Yes, all versions of the small core Purepower engines (PW1500G, PW1900G, PW1200G, PW1700G, PW815(/4), and PW812D).

The PW1100G (large core Purepower) is ahead if the small core in PIPs except the first seal PIP had to be withdrawn so that about 25% of the fleet still needs seal replacement (my best guess on quantity, I could be off a bit). The PW1100G combustor fix is over six months ahead of the small cores.

I'm aware if several platform competitions for both engine cores. :hyper:

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Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:02 pm

basspaul wrote:
keesje wrote:
It seems at this stage BBD engineers / supply chain did a pretty good job on the A220.


Thanks, many of us worked hard on it and we're proud about it.


You should be.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:11 am

wrongwayup wrote:
basspaul wrote:
keesje wrote:
It seems at this stage BBD engineers / supply chain did a pretty good job on the A220.


Thanks, many of us worked hard on it and we're proud about it.


You should be.


All the moreso given the economic fragility of the company at that time.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:46 am

lightsaber wrote:
StTim wrote:
lightsaber wrote:
Doing much better:

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... ential?amp

Engine seals are almost completely replaced. That fixes dispatch reliability.

The combustors currently only have a 13,000 hr life. Oops. Design was 48,000 hr. So right now, about a 3 year life until 1st overhaul. An ouch on warranty bills, but not the end if the world.

I believe sales will now increase.

Lightsaber


Good news. Does this apply to all versions?

Yes, all versions of the small core Purepower engines (PW1500G, PW1900G, PW1200G, PW1700G, PW815(/4), and PW812D).

The PW1100G (large core Purepower) is ahead if the small core in PIPs except the first seal PIP had to be withdrawn so that about 25% of the fleet still needs seal replacement (my best guess on quantity, I could be off a bit). The PW1100G combustor fix is over six months ahead of the small cores.

I'm aware if several platform competitions for both engine cores. :hyper:

Lightsaber


You got any more news on these engines??
 
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Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:23 pm

Jetsouth wrote:
Actually, 2 A220-100's remain to be delivered to SWISS. One apparently is in production, the other, apparently in outside storage.

And the one in production that you mention is now in the air for the first time.
 
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Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:39 pm

UA947 wrote:
Jetsouth wrote:
Actually, 2 A220-100's remain to be delivered to SWISS. One apparently is in production, the other, apparently in outside storage.

And the one in production that you mention is now in the air for the first time.


With 50018 to be delivered this month, 50030 delivered earlier this month to Delta and 50034-37 also to be delivered to Delta, there should be 6 A221 this month. A A223 is whitetail and parked due to Redwings. Production uptick?

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