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Thu May 09, 2019 10:33 am

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First ATR 72 (OH-ATI) has been refurbished and repainted. As of now, ATRs will be flying in Finnair colors. Looks nice! I wonder if the entire Finnair fleet will have the black windscreen as well.

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Pretty good looking. Any photos of the refurbished cabin?
 
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Thu May 09, 2019 10:35 am

What routes will the Atr operate for Finnair?
 
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Thu May 09, 2019 11:10 am

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What routes will the Atr operate for Finnair?


ATRs are on domestic flights as well as on flights to TLL, TAY, RIX, VNO, BMA, GDN and probably a few others.
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Thu May 09, 2019 11:32 am

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Pretty good looking. Any photos of the refurbished cabin?



Here: Lentoposti.fi
 
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Fri May 10, 2019 8:20 am

Stockholm (ARN) saw decline in passenger volume also in April:

Domestic: 378,556 (-19%)
International: 1,659,291 (-6%)
Total: 2,037,847 (-9%)

YTD total: 7,672,023 (-5%)
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Fri May 10, 2019 9:20 am

QuawerAir wrote:
Stockholm (ARN) saw decline in passenger volume also in April:

Domestic: 378,556 (-19%)
International: 1,659,291 (-6%)
Total: 2,037,847 (-9%)

YTD total: 7,672,023 (-5%)


The positive effect of Easter in April (in 2018 it was in March) was killed by SAS strike.

How much of the decline is due to all Flygskam / Flight shame movement in Sweden? I do not think aviation tax should be blamed much, as it was enforced in 2018 already?
 
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Fri May 10, 2019 9:31 am

smbukas wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
Stockholm (ARN) saw decline in passenger volume also in April:

Domestic: 378,556 (-19%)
International: 1,659,291 (-6%)
Total: 2,037,847 (-9%)

YTD total: 7,672,023 (-5%)


The positive effect of Easter in April (in 2018 it was in March) was killed by SAS strike.

How much of the decline is due to all Flygskam / Flight shame movement in Sweden? I do not think aviation tax should be blamed much, as it was enforced in 2018 already?


I believe flygkam is related to the aviation tax. When flying becomes so expensive, it is cheaper to go by train/bus/car. Then it is easy to blame it on “flygskam.” Those two are depended on each other. If the Swedes where really bold, they should invest in biofuels from Swedish Forrest. That could actually have an impact on the environment.
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Fri May 10, 2019 10:26 am

Oykie wrote:
smbukas wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
Stockholm (ARN) saw decline in passenger volume also in April:

Domestic: 378,556 (-19%)
International: 1,659,291 (-6%)
Total: 2,037,847 (-9%)

YTD total: 7,672,023 (-5%)


The positive effect of Easter in April (in 2018 it was in March) was killed by SAS strike.

How much of the decline is due to all Flygskam / Flight shame movement in Sweden? I do not think aviation tax should be blamed much, as it was enforced in 2018 already?


I believe flygkam is related to the aviation tax. When flying becomes so expensive, it is cheaper to go by train/bus/car. Then it is easy to blame it on “flygskam.” Those two are depended on each other. If the Swedes where really bold, they should invest in biofuels from Swedish Forrest. That could actually have an impact on the environment.


In my opinion, this whole flygskam thing is probably linked to klimatångest (climate anxiety) that the Swedes are embracing. Sure, we all need to do our share to lessen the impact on the environment, but Sweden takes this to the next level. A small country of 10 million in the outskirts of Europe can’t alone save the world and change the environment in a meaningful way even if all emissions would stop tomorrow. For it to be a real positive impact on the environment the biggest polluters such as China and the US need to catch up to the leading countries and implement better environmental policies. Having lived +20 years in Sweden, and now living in Los Angeles has put things into perspective. Sweden is way ahead in environment friendly policies, but sometimes it feels a little extreme, like with the current flygskam movement. For every new tax/policy that burdens the citizens, whatever is reduced in emissions is probably less than a weeks worth of emissions from the thousands of cars that clog the freeways every day in LA, and that is only one major city in the US.

The environment/climate is not a local problem, but a global one, and that is where Sweden and other leading countries should focus on instead of adding meaningless policies such as the aviation tax that only hurts the local population/economy or starting silly movements like flygskam.
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Fri May 10, 2019 10:56 am

OSL April

Domestic 911.190 -12,6%
International 1.338.824 +2,3%
Total 2.252.054 -4,3%

The Easter effect, which means more internatinal and less domestic traffic, together with the SAS strike is the key elements here. Those asside, the traffic development is OK
 
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Fri May 10, 2019 11:22 am

B747forever wrote:
Oykie wrote:
smbukas wrote:

The positive effect of Easter in April (in 2018 it was in March) was killed by SAS strike.

How much of the decline is due to all Flygskam / Flight shame movement in Sweden? I do not think aviation tax should be blamed much, as it was enforced in 2018 already?


I believe flygkam is related to the aviation tax. When flying becomes so expensive, it is cheaper to go by train/bus/car. Then it is easy to blame it on “flygskam.” Those two are depended on each other. If the Swedes where really bold, they should invest in biofuels from Swedish Forrest. That could actually have an impact on the environment.


In my opinion, this whole flygskam thing is probably linked to klimatångest (climate anxiety) that the Swedes are embracing. Sure, we all need to do our share to lessen the impact on the environment, but Sweden takes this to the next level. A small country of 10 million in the outskirts of Europe can’t alone save the world and change the environment in a meaningful way even if all emissions would stop tomorrow. For it to be a real positive impact on the environment the biggest polluters such as China and the US need to catch up to the leading countries and implement better environmental policies. Having lived +20 years in Sweden, and now living in Los Angeles has put things into perspective. Sweden is way ahead in environment friendly policies, but sometimes it feels a little extreme, like with the current flygskam movement. For every new tax/policy that burdens the citizens, whatever is reduced in emissions is probably less than a weeks worth of emissions from the thousands of cars that clog the freeways every day in LA, and that is only one major city in the US.

The environment/climate is not a local problem, but a global one, and that is where Sweden and other leading countries should focus on instead of adding meaningless policies such as the aviation tax that only hurts the local population/economy or starting silly movements like flygskam.


Is the klimatångest really that every Swede thinks that way, or the current political government? I thought it was more of an political elite, than the typical Swede. Anyway, I still believe there is a correlation between the aviation tax and peoples behavior. I saw a person driving an electric car on studded tires and smoking inside the car. So behavior is strange at times. Anyway. For people, the local pollution is also a big problem. WHO ways 7 million die of air pollution annually. So pollution needs to be tackled. But I am not sure shaming people helps. Instead of flysham we should help solve the problem by developing biofuel for airplanes. And here Scandinavia can take the lead. We have the brain skill, and trees :-D That would be a more proactive way of solving the crises, than shaming each other. IIRC the aviation grade biofuel at Oslo airport is shipped from California and Spain, because that’s where there is aviation grade biofuel. To be honest. Is that climate efficient? Avinor wants locally produced biofuel, and the political elite should follow up on this in Sweden as well :-D
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Sat May 11, 2019 4:39 am

CPH April:

Domestic: 124.012 -10,8%
Europe: 2.090.052 +0,2%
Intercontinental: 294.898 +8,8%
Total: 2.508.962 +0,5%

A positive Easter effect is balancing out the SAS strike
 
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Sun May 12, 2019 10:59 pm

Air Serbia will launch Gothenburg-Nis (GOT-INI) in July. The flight will operate twice weekly year-around using an A319.
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Mon May 13, 2019 7:30 am

Norwegian may cut Scandinavia-U.S routes in W19/20

As Norwegian suffers from debts and the grounding of 737 MAX, they may do reductions in the winter 2019/2020 schedule as it says at Check-in.dk. Even though DY's winter schedule is not ready yet, it's possible that the carrier will cut a few of several U.S routes from CPH, OSL and ARN. Onwards November, there are only a few U.S routes bookable from these three Scandinavian airports:

    From CPH: none (last winter: JFK, LAX, FLL and MCO)
    From OSL: JFK and FLL (last winter: JFK, FLL, MCO and LAX)
    From ARN: FLL (last winter: FLL, JFK and MCO)

Flights to BKK and KBV are bookable.

Do you think DY is indeed going to make such heavy reductions?
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Mon May 13, 2019 1:26 pm

A330-900neo is heading to Helsinki (HEL) from Toulouse (TLS) at the moment. I wonder if this has something to do with Finnair's future fleet development plans.

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Mon May 13, 2019 2:12 pm

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A330-900neo is heading to Helsinki (HEL) from Toulouse (TLS) at the moment. I wonder if this has something to do with Finnair's future fleet development plans.

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Interesting! It probably does. Although AY's A330's are only 10 years old. They should be around for at least another 10 years.
 
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Mon May 13, 2019 5:08 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
A330-900neo is heading to Helsinki (HEL) from Toulouse (TLS) at the moment. I wonder if this has something to do with Finnair's future fleet development plans.

Flightradar24

According to lentoposti.fi its a humanitarian flight for the finnish red cross.
 
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Tue May 14, 2019 5:18 am

Recently, Finnair converted Guangzhou to year-round service. Now, however, AY switches Chongqing to seasonal service. The service will be suspended between 27OCT19 and 28MAR20. Presumably, the A330 operating on CKG service will be used on additional frequencies to NRT. Sad news but I think CAN will be more profitable compared to CKG.

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Tue May 14, 2019 11:47 am

KEF numbers for April:

April: 474.519 (-27%)
YTD: 2.104.785 (-13.6%)

As we know, mainly because of WOW’s bankruptcy.
This makes KEF drop from Nordic 5th to 7th, with GOT now being 5th and BGO at 6th spot.
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Wed May 15, 2019 5:45 am

cityairline wrote:
KEF numbers for April:

April: 474.519 (-27%)
YTD: 2.104.785 (-13.6%)

As we know, mainly because of WOW’s bankruptcy.
This makes KEF drop from Nordic 5th to 7th, with GOT now being 5th and BGO at 6th spot.


The breakdown between transiting and O/D traffic is also interesting. Transit pax drop 52% from April 2018 but O/D drops 10%. So it seems that tourism in Iceland wasn't hit that hard in April. Early April had a lot of rescue flying for stranded WOW passengers. May will provide a better picture of what KEF will look like without WOW.
 
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Thu May 16, 2019 6:24 am

Finnair and Juneyao Air commence codeshare partnership on 28 June 2019. The agreement covers 8 destinations in China, including AY's and HO's flights between HEL and PVG, and 5 destinations in Finland.

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Thu May 16, 2019 9:36 am

Starting from July 17, Air Serbia will operate two weekly flights from Nis to Goteborg onboard its A319. This route will be subsidized for a five year period by the Serbian government.

https://www.exyuaviation.com/p/air-serb ... nburg.html
 
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Thu May 16, 2019 11:30 am

AY is dropping CKG in winter, it will become a summer seasonal route.
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Thu May 16, 2019 5:31 pm

Blerg wrote:
Starting from July 17, Air Serbia will operate two weekly flights from Nis to Goteborg onboard its A319. This route will be subsidized for a five year period by the Serbian government.

https://www.exyuaviation.com/p/air-serb ... nburg.html

Please see my previous post.
cityairline wrote:
Air Serbia will launch Gothenburg-Nis (GOT-INI) in July. The flight will operate twice weekly year-around using an A319.
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Fri May 17, 2019 2:26 pm

The future of ARN is causing tension in the Swedish government. The social democrats want to expand Arlanda and make it the biggest airport in the nordics, including the construction of a 4th runway and preparations for a 5th. Their coalition partner, the greens, are not too fond of the plans. Link (in Swedish): https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/samh ... ya-arlanda
 
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Fri May 17, 2019 2:57 pm

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The future of ARN is causing tension in the Swedish government. The social democrats want to expand Arlanda and make it the biggest airport in the nordics, including the construction of a 4th runway and preparations for a 5th. Their coalition partner, the greens, are not too fond of the plans. Link (in Swedish): https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/samh ... ya-arlanda


If the climate goals what have been thrown around will stick in the Nordics there won't be any new runways needed - ever.
 
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Fri May 17, 2019 3:26 pm

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The future of ARN is causing tension in the Swedish government. The social democrats want to expand Arlanda and make it the biggest airport in the nordics, including the construction of a 4th runway and preparations for a 5th. Their coalition partner, the greens, are not too fond of the plans. Link (in Swedish): https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/samh ... ya-arlanda


Does Arlanda really need 4 or 5 runways. I find the airport so strange. It doesn't have that many flights and already has three runways. It's the same with terminals. They have T5 which is decent, then they have T2 which is tiny and terrible and then the domestic T3 and T4. Is there no way to merge some of them? I actively avoid flying with BA as T2 is so dull.

I know you can walk landside from T2 to T5 via Sky City. Is it possible for them to make an airside connection so it effectively becomes one big terminal?
 
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Fri May 17, 2019 3:43 pm

seansasLCY wrote:
Bostrom wrote:
The future of ARN is causing tension in the Swedish government. The social democrats want to expand Arlanda and make it the biggest airport in the nordics, including the construction of a 4th runway and preparations for a 5th. Their coalition partner, the greens, are not too fond of the plans. Link (in Swedish): https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/samh ... ya-arlanda


Does Arlanda really need 4 or 5 runways. I find the airport so strange. It doesn't have that many flights and already has three runways. It's the same with terminals. They have T5 which is decent, then they have T2 which is tiny and terrible and then the domestic T3 and T4. Is there no way to merge some of them? I actively avoid flying with BA as T2 is so dull.

I know you can walk landside from T2 to T5 via Sky City. Is it possible for them to make an airside connection so it effectively becomes one big terminal?


They do have a bus transfer which can take you between T2 and T5 I belive, airside that is.
 
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Fri May 17, 2019 7:24 pm

Mangs wrote:
seansasLCY wrote:

I know you can walk landside from T2 to T5 via Sky City. Is it possible for them to make an airside connection so it effectively becomes one big terminal?


They do have a bus transfer which can take you between T2 and T5 I belive, airside that is.

Airside? There is the shuttle landside between all terminals and to car parkings, but airside? Never heard of it, but I’m not that frequently at ARN nowadays. I think they sometimes transfer pax airside between certain flights by bus but I don’t think there’s a sort of open shuttle style bus line.

At T4, they could use gates 30[abcd] but at T2 I have no idea. T3 has ground level exits so that could be doable but as I’ve never flown from T2 I don’t know if all gates are jet bridge style gates (think so). T5 would also be a challenge for bus access.

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Fri May 17, 2019 7:38 pm

Strato2 wrote:
Bostrom wrote:
The future of ARN is causing tension in the Swedish government. The social democrats want to expand Arlanda and make it the biggest airport in the nordics, including the construction of a 4th runway and preparations for a 5th. Their coalition partner, the greens, are not too fond of the plans. Link (in Swedish): https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/samh ... ya-arlanda


If the climate goals what have been thrown around will stick in the Nordics there won't be any new runways needed - ever.

...unless my electric fuel-cell/methanole powered ATR 72 comes true ;)

Ask the pepole in the northern parts of Sweden if we really need air transport. Sure, environmental factors are important, but we also need to move around. Let the ”greens” have Bromma in exchange for a new runway and terminal at Arlanda! (and a GA/corporate airport someplace else)

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Fri May 17, 2019 8:35 pm

I imagine it would be really quite expensive to create an airside walkway between T2 and T5 at Arlanda - it's a long way to walk and the inter-terminal bus service is probably good enough. Of course if IAG decide to buy Norwegian plans might change - or more simply, BA might move to T5. T3 seems to serve mostly middle-of-nowhere destinations in Sweden whose pax are probably intending just to travel to/from Stockholm. Now if there could be an airside link between T4 and T5, that would make a lot more sense - but it would rather ruin the view from SkyCity !
 
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Fri May 17, 2019 9:41 pm

FredrikHAD wrote:
Mangs wrote:
seansasLCY wrote:

I know you can walk landside from T2 to T5 via Sky City. Is it possible for them to make an airside connection so it effectively becomes one big terminal?


They do have a bus transfer which can take you between T2 and T5 I belive, airside that is.

Airside? There is the shuttle landside between all terminals and to car parkings, but airside? Never heard of it, but I’m not that frequently at ARN nowadays. I think they sometimes transfer pax airside between certain flights by bus but I don’t think there’s a sort of open shuttle style bus line.

At T4, they could use gates 30[abcd] but at T2 I have no idea. T3 has ground level exits so that could be doable but as I’ve never flown from T2 I don’t know if all gates are jet bridge style gates (think so). T5 would also be a challenge for bus access.

/Fredrik


https://www.swedavia.se/arlanda/transpo ... tsen/#gref

Seems like it's airside, but only from terminal 4 to terminal 2 and 5 :-)
 
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Sat May 18, 2019 12:03 pm

There is an airside bus transfer at ARN. There are gates at F pier (near pass control), A pier and B pier ( bottom of the arrival escalator.)
In T2 there are two gates at ground level just about below security. T4 I don't know, not used it. At each gate there is a button to push to call the Swedavia bus. It only operates on request, and is not very busy.
 
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Sat May 18, 2019 8:04 pm

seansasLCY wrote:
Does Arlanda really need 4 or 5 runways. I find the airport so strange. It doesn't have that many flights and already has three runways. It's the same with terminals. They have T5 which is decent, then they have T2 which is tiny and terrible and then the domestic T3 and T4. Is there no way to merge some of them? I actively avoid flying with BA as T2 is so dull.

I know you can walk landside from T2 to T5 via Sky City. Is it possible for them to make an airside connection so it effectively becomes one big terminal?


There have been plans for a major terminal reconstruction at Arlanda, that would see 2,3 and 4 merge and form the new terminal "Arlanda South". But I don't know what the state of those plans are at the moment. A smaller project is a new pier at T5. Construction of the pier was supposed to start last year but has been postponed.

Does it need 4 or 5 runways? I don't know. The third runway was built to increase capacity as runway 8-26 is de facto half a runway. When 01L-19R is in use, you can't land on 8 or take off from 26. But something that would be useful is an extension or runway 3, as it is only 2,500 m today.
 
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Sun May 19, 2019 6:12 am

Tristarsteve wrote:
At each gate there is a button to push to call the Swedavia bus. It only operates on request, and is not very busy.


The one occasion I used the bus (on a strange connection from SAS domestic to KLM that a travel agent found for me) it took me a while to spot this button. I was just waiting around, all alone, when an airport employee on the other side of the window (landside I think) made the universal sign language for “you need to go over there and push that button.” 8-)
 
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Mon May 20, 2019 8:53 am

3 new SAS routes announced for the coming Winter

OSL-IEV: 3x weekly 737 from end October
CPH-TRN: 1x weekly A32N DEC-MAR
ARN-LUX: unknown
 
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Mon May 20, 2019 10:23 am

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3 new SAS routes announced for the coming Winter

OSL-IEV: 3x weekly 737 from end October
CPH-TRN: 1x weekly A32N DEC-MAR
ARN-LUX: unknown


OSL-KBP (not IEV)
 
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Mon May 20, 2019 10:28 am

ARN - LUX is 3 weekly on day 135 with CR9, start nov 04.
 
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Mon May 20, 2019 11:57 am

Arlanda is great for Point to point traffic. Especially terminal 4 is really fast and easy to get in and out from. However it’s not good for connections between domestic and international flights since you need to get out and then pass the security again. An airside bridge between terminal 4 and 5 would be good and extending with the already planned G-pir.
 
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Tue May 21, 2019 5:14 am

Finnair and China Southern to commence codesharing on 1 June 2019


China Southern Airlines and Finnair have agreed on new codeshare partnership starting on 01 June, 2019. The cooperation includes the Finnair route between Guangzhou and Helsinki, and selected Finnair destinations in Europe. The new codeshare partnership adds five new destination to China Southern Airlines' network in Europe, and customers will be able to connect with Finnair from Helsinki to Amsterdam (AMS), Billund (BLL), Copenhagen (CPH), Goteborg (GOT), London (LHR), Paris (CDG), Riga (RIX) and Stockholm (ARN).

In addition, Finnair code AY will be added to China Southern Airlines' flights from Guangzhou to several popular destinations in China: Changsha (CSX), Chongqing (CKG), Hangzhou (HGH), Nanjing (NKG), Sanya (SYX), Wenzhou (WNZ), Xiamen (XMN) and Xian (XIY).

The new codeshare flights can be booked from 21 May, 2019 onwards.


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Tue May 21, 2019 8:26 am

HO will be flying to HEL 3x weekly during the winter season, instead of 7x weekly. However, the schedule may change if the airline begins the rumored 4x weekly PVG-HEL-MAN service.

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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Tue May 21, 2019 9:55 am

QuawerAir wrote:

No news about CZ's CAN–HEL route yet.


Because airlines rarely make announcements of routes they won’t be flying.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Tue May 21, 2019 10:56 am

Nami wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:

No news about CZ's CAN–HEL route yet.


Because airlines rarely make announcements of routes they won’t be flying.

I know.
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Tue May 21, 2019 11:00 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
Stockholm (ARN) saw decline in passenger volume also in April:

Domestic: 378,556 (-19%)
International: 1,659,291 (-6%)
Total: 2,037,847 (-9%)

YTD total: 7,672,023 (-5%)


At this rate HEL will have more international pax than ARN before the end of the year. And still they are dreaming of ARN becoming the biggest airport in the nordic coutries :lol:

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Bostrom wrote:
The future of ARN is causing tension in the Swedish government. The social democrats want to expand Arlanda and make it the biggest airport in the nordics, including the construction of a 4th runway and preparations for a 5th. Their coalition partner, the greens, are not too fond of the plans. Link (in Swedish): https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/samh ... ya-arlanda


Does Arlanda really need 4 or 5 runways.


With the current 3 runways the airport can handle a teoretical max of 128 movments per hour given improvments to runway 2 and implementation of independent paralell operations of runway 1 and 3. Also the airspace needs to be improved. Right now the airport never exceed 80 movements per hour and that is only during morning rush hour. Most of the day it is less than 40 movments per hour.

Runway 2 and 3 could be improved a lot if both were extended to 3000 meters. The agument is that it is not worth it since neither 2 or 3 can be used to its full potential due to noise restrictions. But in fact both 2 and 3 could be used with displaced thresholds if both were extended, in fact runway 08 could be reopened with a displaced threshold pushing the noise cone out of Märsta/Sigtuna with the newest planes.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Tue May 21, 2019 11:50 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
HO will be flying to HEL 3x weekly during the winter season, instead of 7x weekly. However, the schedule may change if the airline begins the rumored 4x weekly PVG-HEL-MAN service.


Do you happen to have a source for the HEL-MAN rumour ? And is there any hope it'll be a fifth freedom route ? :-)
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed May 22, 2019 5:12 am

Someone83 wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
3 new SAS routes announced for the coming Winter

OSL-IEV: 3x weekly 737 from end October
CPH-TRN: 1x weekly A32N DEC-MAR
ARN-LUX: unknown


OSL-KBP (not IEV)


This is good news! I travel to Kiev sometimes per year, and usually fly through Riga. Have SAS announced days and flight times yet?
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed May 22, 2019 5:31 am

davidjohnson6 wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
HO will be flying to HEL 3x weekly during the winter season, instead of 7x weekly. However, the schedule may change if the airline begins the rumored 4x weekly PVG-HEL-MAN service.


Do you happen to have a source for the HEL-MAN rumour ? And is there any hope it'll be a fifth freedom route ? :-)

The airline has not given any information about this. However, someone mentioned this at a.net saying HO wants to serve MAN (via HEL) instead after not getting permits to fly PVG–LHR, which sounds possible to me. Furthermore, this is said by Airlineroute:

The CAAC earlier this week updated its route application posting for Juneyao Airlines, now showing Shanghai Pu Dong – Manchester from Nov 2019 [previously shown as Shanghai Pu Dong – Helsinki], exercising 5th freedom rights. This particular one is categorized under "Finland". Expect possible clarification in the next few weeks


So, it's possible that HO will be flying between HEL and MAN using 5th freedom rights :) As MAN is intended to be served 4x weekly (which is appears at CAAC) and HEL 3x weekly (7x altogether) during the winter season, HO may plan to serve MAN either non-stop from PVG or via HEL (thus HEL would be daily again).
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed May 22, 2019 10:13 am

Oykie wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
3 new SAS routes announced for the coming Winter

OSL-IEV: 3x weekly 737 from end October
CPH-TRN: 1x weekly A32N DEC-MAR
ARN-LUX: unknown


OSL-KBP (not IEV)


This is good news! I travel to Kiev sometimes per year, and usually fly through Riga. Have SAS announced days and flight times yet?


Yes:
OSL-KBP SK4298 departs OSL at 09:30, arrives KBP at 13:10
OSL-KBP SK4299 departs KBP at 14:00, arrives OSL at 15:50

Its 3 weekly flights, on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed May 22, 2019 10:51 am

BRA has been announced as the first operator at Scandinavian Mountain airport with routes to: Stockholm/Bromma, Göteborg, Malmö, Ängelholm og Växjö. So far only DEC to end MAR and during the ski-season and only with 1-2x weekly flights from each city
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed May 22, 2019 11:17 am

Huge news for that Airport, no one seemed to think they would get any regular traffic at all. Let's just hope BRA is still around come winter...
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed May 22, 2019 2:48 pm

minilinde wrote:
Oykie wrote:
Someone83 wrote:

OSL-KBP (not IEV)


This is good news! I travel to Kiev sometimes per year, and usually fly through Riga. Have SAS announced days and flight times yet?


Yes:
OSL-KBP SK4298 departs OSL at 09:30, arrives KBP at 13:10
OSL-KBP SK4299 departs KBP at 14:00, arrives OSL at 15:50

Its 3 weekly flights, on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays


Thanks! The Thursday’s to Sunday’s will be popular among locals who travel ‘home’ for the weekend.
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