So, somehow Singapore Airlines manages to fly its A359 1700nm or 3.5 hrs further with just 5 ton more MTOW available to them?
~15 ton less pax, ~22 ton more fuel ..... delta 7 ton.
So...,since they don´t have A351s or 77W the Pilots at Delta are complaining that a 275t Aircraft can not haul what a 351t 77L can? Which has a smaller cabin, less cargo space and burns about a third more fuel?
Huh? You mean the ULR? That's a 280t plane with half the passengers.
Both of which i accounted for.
The issue with DL was their 268t models couldn't do LAX-SYD with acceptable payloads.
No one ever claimed that a 268t A359 can do LAX-SYD with whatever payload Delta wants.
I've no doubt the 275t will do this segment which is WHY they uprated. They had to.
Apparently they had to upgrade to do it with the payload they want. They knew that going in, and to their dismay Airbus knew too, and didn´t give away the uprate for free.
Bigger question you SHOULD be asking is why isn't SQ deploying the base 359 on LAX-SIN.
you mean aside of that they do?
There's a very good reason why, the plane doesn't have the range.
Well, since they do fly that without using the ULR they obviously have the range.
AB's ranges are still overstated by 600nm bc their brochure/ACAPS whatever you wanna call it are using unrealistic configs.
They are obviously not doing that and we know that because there is a lot of info about SIN-JFK in the public domain, which just happens to match brochure ranges and ACAP very well. It would rather look like SQ hauled a couple of tons more all the way to JFK than one would expect based on said ACAPS, even if they did so with excessive fuel reserves they tankered all the way to their destination.
As far as this last post about "baseless conspiracy theories," um no, PAL, it's actual DL pilots. Who actually fly the plane.
Who flew the 268t version, the version that Delta decided
to order, and where we have no indication that Airbus ever claimed it could do it with Delta´s configuration and payload demand.
So sorry that you do not like what they have to say as it interferes with your irrational brand loyalty
Oh, i have a very high brand loyalty. I have a much higher loyalty to data. SQ could not be flying SIN-JFK if a 268t A359 couldn´t do LAX-SYD. It is that simple.
253 pax man...SQ is flying light.
But at the same time, J seats are heavier than Y seats, right? So we are not sure how much heavier or lighter SQ's config is compared to Airbus' reference config.
Isn´t it amazing how he not just knows the fuelburn at Delta straight out of ops, but also knows that SQ is not carrying any cargo ever on those flights?
Heck, it would seem today SQ is flying the 303 Seat config from LAX to SYD today......
253pax on a 359 isn't even remotely close to typical.
pretty typical seat density for SQ actually. They fly their 77W with only 25 or 11 seats more, that is 10%/4% more seats in an 18% bigger cabin, i.e. an even "lighter" configuration.... how does SQ even exist?!?!
That said, if DL was having issues at 6500nm at 268t, 12 extra tons of MTOW does not get them to 8100. Period. No way, no how. Drop 70pax and maybe you're close. DL flies with 306.
And that is nonsense, as SQ could not fly SIN-JFK with 160 passengers if the 268t Version couldn´t take 306 Pax from LAX to SYD.
This Singature is a safe space......