jimmy9irons
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JASDF Boeing 747s

Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:51 am

What will happen the JASDF Boeing 747s now the 777s have been delivered? I imagine they have comparatively low hours compared to 747s of a similar age. Could they continue to fly for a new operator?
 
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Re: JASDF Boeing 747s

Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:04 am

A great question - thanks for posting, but I believe the two 777's are still not service yet with the Japanese Govt and are still being outfitted.
 
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Re: JASDF Boeing 747s

Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:22 am

jimmy9irons wrote:
What will happen the JASDF Boeing 747s now the 777s have been delivered? I imagine they have comparatively low hours compared to 747s of a similar age. Could they continue to fly for a new operator?


If I were in the market for two 747s, I'd surely want them - I imagine they would have been very carefully looked after.
 
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Re: JASDF Boeing 747s

Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:01 am

cpd wrote:
jimmy9irons wrote:
What will happen the JASDF Boeing 747s now the 777s have been delivered? I imagine they have comparatively low hours compared to 747s of a similar age. Could they continue to fly for a new operator?


If I were in the market for two 747s, I'd surely want them - I imagine they would have been very carefully looked after.


Make your proposal ;)
Well, as from recent pics I saw the 77Ws are already flying around meanwhile the 747s are active as well.
Maybe a transitioning period but the 77Ws are fully painted and active.
 
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Re: JASDF Boeing 747s

Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:33 am

ojjunior wrote:
cpd wrote:
jimmy9irons wrote:
What will happen the JASDF Boeing 747s now the 777s have been delivered? I imagine they have comparatively low hours compared to 747s of a similar age. Could they continue to fly for a new operator?


If I were in the market for two 747s, I'd surely want them - I imagine they would have been very carefully looked after.


Make your proposal ;)
Well, as from recent pics I saw the 77Ws are already flying around meanwhile the 747s are active as well.
Maybe a transitioning period but the 77Ws are fully painted and active.


N511BJ is still at Basel and hasn't been delivered.
 
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Re: JASDF Boeing 747s

Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:39 am

The second 777 isn't delivered yet. She is still beeing outfitted in Euope, at the same place as #1 was.

 
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Re: JASDF Boeing 747s

Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:20 pm

Looks like 80-1111 already landed in Japan since October...

Tokyo:

Sapporo:
 
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Re: JASDF Boeing 747s

Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:01 pm

What features or internal configuration would the 747s have? Would these make it difficult to place with new operators? Eg. Air Force 1
 
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Re: JASDF Boeing 747s

Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:11 pm

ojjunior wrote:
Looks like 80-1111 already landed in Japan since October...


N509BJ flew Basel to Chitose AB 16-17 August. It was painted as 80-1111 on 20 August and officially delivered on 23 August then N reg cancelled on 30 August.

N511BJ is still at Basel but outfitting has already been completed and I expect it will fly-away to Japan later this month.
 
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Re: JASDF Boeing 747s

Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:09 pm

ojjunior wrote:
Well, as from recent pics I saw the 77Ws are already flying around meanwhile the 747s are active as well.
Maybe a transitioning period but the 77Ws are fully painted and active.

The first of the two 77Ws was delivered to the JASDF in August, while the second one is expected to arrive in Japan this month. Currently, they're just making test flights with the delivered aircraft (reg 80-1111).

The 747s will be retired in March next year. Concerning their future, the JASDF are still thinking about what will happen to them. Scrapping, converting them into civil aircrafts or preserving them in their present state are under consideration. Source: https://www.sankei.com/politics/news/180818/plt1808180001-n1.html
 
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Re: JASDF Boeing 747s

Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:24 pm

Converting to civil aircraft doesn't seem likely, unless they want to sell them as civilian VIP aircraft which will also be difficult. Could these be interesting for cargo conversions since they won't have logged too much hours and cycles as the JASDF 1s ?
 
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Re: JASDF Boeing 747s

Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:58 pm

I think if I were the JASDF I'd convert them to freighters then just hold onto them for some low-fuss airlift capacity.
 
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Re: JASDF Boeing 747s

Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:19 pm

N511BJ the second 777 is in the moment over Finnland heading east. Long testflight or delivery, we will see.

https://www.flightradar24.com/N511BJ/1ed290f7
 
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Re: JASDF Boeing 747s

Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:45 pm

LX2990 wrote:
N511BJ the second 777 is in the moment over Finnland heading east. Long testflight or delivery, we will see.

https://www.flightradar24.com/N511BJ/1ed290f7


Final delivery apparently. Source.
 
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Re: JASDF Boeing 747s

Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:34 pm

Hey guys!
Would it be possible for the two 747s to go to museums, even though they are immaculate and low hours? Having travelled through Japan I know that the Japanese are into their history and aviation in general...
Would it be possible that Japan could 'gift' one or both of the the 747s to friendly countries, like the new Turkish Government 747-8BBJ? I guess very unlikely and I have no idea which country(ies) would be acceptable for and accepting of such a gift.
If the Japanese Government ordered the 777s to replace e 747s due to the latter's high fuel consumption and maintenance requirements, I don't see the 747s being retained as 'general transport hacks' without a specific requirement. It would look a bit questionable.
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Re: JASDF Boeing 747s

Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:14 pm

RobK wrote:
LX2990 wrote:
N511BJ the second 777 is in the moment over Finnland heading east. Long testflight or delivery, we will see.

https://www.flightradar24.com/N511BJ/1ed290f7


Final delivery apparently. Source.


Nearly there, so yes delivery flight.
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