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MO11 wrote:The US and AA fleets are still segregated by flight number blocks.
RyanairGuru wrote:So does this mean that pilots and flight attendants are already integrated?
RyanairGuru wrote:So does this mean that pilots and flight attendants are already integrated?
UA444 wrote:Have the MD-80s been on any ex-US routes?
Polot wrote:UA444 wrote:Have the MD-80s been on any ex-US routes?
No. With so few and a shrinking fleet they are kept on DFW routes and a couple ORD routes. It doesn’t make sense to spread them to LUS hubs.
jfk777 wrote:When the A330-300 go 777 & 787 will appear in CLT & PHL.
alasizon wrote:RyanairGuru wrote:So does this mean that pilots and flight attendants are already integrated?
Yes. MX is the only large group still left to integrate.
alasizon wrote:RyanairGuru wrote:So does this mean that pilots and flight attendants are already integrated?
Yes. MX is the only large group still left to integrate.
usairways85 wrote:Polot wrote:UA444 wrote:Have the MD-80s been on any ex-US routes?
No. With so few and a shrinking fleet they are kept on DFW routes and a couple ORD routes. It doesn’t make sense to spread them to LUS hubs.
I've seen 2 M80's make rare appearances at PHL the past few weeks. I did a double take at that AA tail and shiny frame when I saw them flying over.
MAH4546 wrote:In terms on integrating US Airways' horrendous customer service, poor on board product, toxic employees and "I don't care attitude," they successfully fully integrated.
Runway28L wrote:A319 (L-US)
LAX-IAH/SJD/MEX/CMH/IND
PHLspecial wrote:jfk777 wrote:When the A330-300 go 777 & 787 will appear in CLT & PHL.
The A330-300 is staying until the end of 2020. The 787 might show up for the 2020 summer season because of the 5 retirements of the B767. The 777 only shows up to PHL whenever those pesky Cowboys come to town. I highly doubt PHL will see the from AA 777 in the near future.
Flighty wrote:Legacy AA had their day. Its business model failed. Its leadership was shut down. I think it's accurate to say the old AA is no more. The logic and philosophy behind that company didn't work. I hope the new company works, for everybody's sake, or maybe it will need to reboot again.
UAL is on about version 4.0 of their business. AA is a valuable franchise and deserves to be run correctly. Whatever that is.
PHLspecial wrote:jfk777 wrote:When the A330-300 go 777 & 787 will appear in CLT & PHL.
The A330-300 is staying until the end of 2020. The 787 might show up for the 2020 summer season because of the 5 retirements of the B767. The 777 only shows up to PHL whenever those pesky Cowboys come to town. I highly doubt PHL will see the from AA 777 in the near future.
MAH4546 wrote:In terms on integrating US Airways' horrendous customer service, poor on board product, toxic employees and "I don't care attitude," they successfully fully integrated.
CLTRampRat wrote:NO.
-Sincerely everyone at CLT.
Runway28L wrote:There has been quite a bit of metal swapping since the merger.
A few examples just by quickly scrolling through some schedules for tomorrow morning...
B738 (L-AA)
CLT-SAT/RIC/PBI/BWI/SXM/MSP/EWR/BOS/RDU/AUA/FLL
PHL-BOS/SAN/BDA
PHX-SMF/EWR/MSP/MEX/SNA/PDX/SJC/SLC/SAN
A319 (L-US)
DFW-IAH/MCI/CAE/MEM/MKE
ORD-ATL
MIA-STL/MSY
LAX-IAH/SJD/MEX/CMH/IND
A320 (L-US)
DFW-OAK
A321 (L-US)
DFW-ORD/SEA/BOS/SAN/TPA
Austin787 wrote:LAA flight attendants are now advertising the credit card. When the LUS flight attendants start becoming hit or miss regarding PDBs we will know the flight attendants are fully integrated.
As for airplanes, once Project Oasis is complete most of the fleet will be standardized.
Flighty wrote:Legacy AA had their day. Its business model failed. Its leadership was shut down. I think it's accurate to say the old AA is no more. The logic and philosophy behind that company didn't work. I hope the new company works, for everybody's sake, or maybe it will need to reboot again.
UAL is on about version 4.0 of their business. AA is a valuable franchise and deserves to be run correctly. Whatever that is.
TWFlyGuy wrote:PHLspecial wrote:jfk777 wrote:When the A330-300 go 777 & 787 will appear in CLT & PHL.
The A330-300 is staying until the end of 2020. The 787 might show up for the 2020 summer season because of the 5 retirements of the B767. The 777 only shows up to PHL whenever those pesky Cowboys come to town. I highly doubt PHL will see the from AA 777 in the near future.
The one route I expected 777's to switch over to LUS hubs was LHR from PHL & CLT just for commonality in LHR. Though they may be short on 777's overall so it wasn't as pressing.
usairways787 wrote:Wrong, anyone below wing is still not integrated as negotiations have been sent to section 6 mediation. Been in "talks" for 3 years.
US787
usairways787 wrote:alasizon wrote:RyanairGuru wrote:So does this mean that pilots and flight attendants are already integrated?
Yes. MX is the only large group still left to integrate.
Wrong, anyone below wing is still not integrated as negotiations have been sent to section 6 mediation. Been in "talks" for 3 years.
US787
Flighty wrote:Legacy AA had their day. Its business model failed. Its leadership was shut down. I think it's accurate to say the old AA is no more. The logic and philosophy behind that company didn't work. I hope the new company works, for everybody's sake, or maybe it will need to reboot again.
alasizon wrote:usairways787 wrote:Wrong, anyone below wing is still not integrated as negotiations have been sent to section 6 mediation. Been in "talks" for 3 years.
US787
Its splitting hairs. The helping hand initiative made fleet service integrated when it comes to the actual operation. When it comes to an actual contract; that is a different story.
Wacker1000 wrote:usairways787 wrote:alasizon wrote:
Yes. MX is the only large group still left to integrate.
Wrong, anyone below wing is still not integrated as negotiations have been sent to section 6 mediation. Been in "talks" for 3 years.
US787
And after 3 years people still haven't figure out that you need to send professionals to the negotiating table and be willing to negotiate - same mistake the HP/US pilots made (but look how well that plan worked for them!)Flighty wrote:Legacy AA had their day. Its business model failed. Its leadership was shut down. I think it's accurate to say the old AA is no more. The logic and philosophy behind that company didn't work. I hope the new company works, for everybody's sake, or maybe it will need to reboot again.
That news hasn't made it to DFW. That trench is deep and has been around for decades. As they say, old habits die hard.
PRAirbus wrote:There are remarkable differences between LUS and LAA fleets. Majority of LUS fleet is still bare bones; very spartan like going back to 1990s. I avoid booking flights operated by LUS planes.
OB1504 wrote:PRAirbus wrote:There are remarkable differences between LUS and LAA fleets. Majority of LUS fleet is still bare bones; very spartan like going back to 1990s. I avoid booking flights operated by LUS planes.
You would rather be on an ancient LAA 767 than a comfortable LUS A321?
kickazzz2000 wrote:MAH4546 wrote:In terms on integrating US Airways' horrendous customer service, poor on board product, toxic employees and "I don't care attitude," they successfully fully integrated.
Thats interesting, because I only get a pre-departure drink when its a LUS crew. I guess domestic F is beneath LAA people.