seahawk wrote:Again this discussion?
Yes, now made complete with a veer off in to program accounting talk.
seahawk wrote:We know that the current landing gear is reaching ground pressure limits at 101t, we also know that the newest exit door configuration is limited to 250 seats and the A321 already does 240 in sardine can configuration. In addition addition for any extra FA you need about 10-12 seats to just compensate the costs. So once you go over 250, you need at least 270 seats to make the effort worthwhile. I would not call a 2 row stretch ground braking in any form. And something like 6 rows to take the plane to 276 seats will be starting to become MTOW limited quickly as the additional passengers alone will eat up the MTOW bump. In addition the longer fuselage allows means worse take-off performance as the maximum rotation angle will be reduced.
Imho the only thing reasonable solution would be doing the A320.5 and A321.5 with the A320.5 then going to 200 seats and the A321.5 to 250 seats.
In other words, no true NMA competitor emerging, at best we have an attempt at a spoiler.
It's the same narrative that got aired here when an Airbus marketing guy started talking about A330neo Regional -- some heard the sizzle and thought they had bacon.
I feel even better about my MD-11 vs 777 comparison now.
keesje wrote:Newbiepilot wrote:
Seems you are4 acrtively trying to distract the discussion again into a topic you now is far more complecated. You keep repeating your self again and again without adding anything new just to distract. Is that called Trolling?
I don't think fact based posts amount to trolling.
On the other hand, posts about hidden projects based on decades old desires seem to largely be "repeating your self again and again without adding anything new just to distract.".
I guess we can't just be happy with A321XLR coming closer to reality, we have to make that next Leap too.
Newbiepilot wrote:The question for this thread is, does Airbus have the free cash flow and resources to launch a full A322 with a new wing?
Some seem to prefer that we play hide and seek to find the answer to a pretty basic question.