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US3 Hub Connection Flow vs Local Enplanement stats

Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:25 pm

I thought this might be interesting for some...

Boyd group recently put out a presentation which included info on how U.S. hubs stack up in regards to their percentage of local vs connection traffic flow.

Below it top-10 list of hubs with the greatest percentage of connection enplanements.

1. CLT 70.0%
2. ATL 62.6%
3. DFW 55.2%
4. IAH 52.8%
5. ORD 44.6%
6. MIA 41.6%
7. DTW 41.2%
8. IAD 39.2%
9. MSP 38.1%
10. SLC 37.6%

=

I am not sure as to the time period covered, but suspect its YE2017.
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Re: US3 Hub Connection Flow vs Local Enplanement stats

Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:40 pm

Curious that all of DL's mid continent hubs are so low. For UA and AA, ORD, DFW, and IAH are all massive catchment areas so it makes a fair amount of sense, but for DTW, MSP and SLC to all be below that is unexpected to me at least.

Also surprised DEN and PHL aren't on the list.
 
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Re: US3 Hub Connection Flow vs Local Enplanement stats

Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:49 pm

LupineChemist wrote:
Curious that all of DL's mid continent hubs are so low. For UA and AA, ORD, DFW, and IAH are all massive catchment areas so it makes a fair amount of sense, but for DTW, MSP and SLC to all be below that is unexpected to me at least.

Also surprised DEN and PHL aren't on the list.

In FY16 PHL O&D traffic was ~62% making the connecting traffic ~38% putting it at the bottom of that list. It might have decreased a few percentage points knocking it out of the top 10.
 
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Re: US3 Hub Connection Flow vs Local Enplanement stats

Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:54 pm

LAXintl wrote:
I thought this might be interesting for some...

Boyd group recently put out a presentation which included info on how U.S. hubs stack up in regards to their percentage of local vs connection traffic flow.

Below it top-10 list of hubs with the greatest percentage of connection enplanements.

1. CLT 70.0%
2. ATL 62.6%
3. DFW 55.2%
4. IAH 52.8%
5. ORD 44.6%
6. MIA 41.6%
7. DTW 41.2%
8. IAD 39.2%
9. MSP 38.1%
10. SLC 37.6%

=

I am not sure as to the time period covered, but suspect its YE2017.


No wonder UA sees so much potential at DEN. Its facilities and geography are well-optimized for connecting traffic, yet punches below its weight in terms of connectivity as compared to other mid-continent hubs. On the other hand, it has a very strong local market underpinning the operation, which makes for a good growth platform.

I'm curious to see how UA is trending at DEN in terms of mixing local to flow traffic. It has opportunities to grow on both fronts there, given the expanding local market (which Southwest had been doing a better job of capturing) as well as building out its transfer hub complex.
 
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Re: US3 Hub Connection Flow vs Local Enplanement stats

Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:57 pm

LupineChemist wrote:
Also surprised DEN and PHL aren't on the list.


Both slightly below the Top-10 cut off. DEN was 37.3 and PHL 33.1 percent connection flow.
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Re: US3 Hub Connection Flow vs Local Enplanement stats

Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:18 pm

:eyepopping: Wow on CLT.

Thanks for posting.
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Re: US3 Hub Connection Flow vs Local Enplanement stats

Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:47 pm

LupineChemist wrote:
Curious that all of DL's mid continent hubs are so low.


What do you mean, so low? DTW, MSP and SLC are all in the top 10. Why are they consistently high would be a better question.

I see klm617 took your bait.
 
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Re: US3 Hub Connection Flow vs Local Enplanement stats

Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:02 pm

I'm guessing DL at LGA or AA at DCA were the lowest in percentage terms for hub connections?
 
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Re: US3 Hub Connection Flow vs Local Enplanement stats

Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:29 pm

Surprised that IAH made it to #4, I wonder if this is due to UA’s rebanking of the hub.
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Re: US3 Hub Connection Flow vs Local Enplanement stats

Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:30 pm

So if sorted by airlines:

AA
CLT 70.0%
DFW 55.2%
ORD 44.6%
MIA 41.6%
PHL 33.1%
PHX ?
LAX ?

DL
ATL 62.6%
DTW 41.2%
MSP 38.1%
SLC 37.6%
JFK ?
SEA ?
LAX ?

UA
IAH 52.8%
ORD 44.6%
IAD 39.2%
DEN 37.3%
EWR ?
SFO ?
LAX ?

Obviously, some airports that host multi-airline hubs like ORD and LAX would likely have variances between carriers.
 
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Re: US3 Hub Connection Flow vs Local Enplanement stats

Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:59 pm

Any stats on WN Focus cities? BWI, MDW, STL, LUV, LAS, BNA etc. Also, do these stats reflect all the regional partners or just mainline?
 
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Re: US3 Hub Connection Flow vs Local Enplanement stats

Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:45 am

Bluegrass60 wrote:
do these stats reflect all the regional partners or just mainline?


The numbers are for the entire airport, so its the percentage of connecting customers regardless of operator.
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Re: US3 Hub Connection Flow vs Local Enplanement stats

Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:18 am

The hub carriers will all have numbers above the percentage listed since the non-hub carriers will be close to 100% local traffic at what is a line station for them. Not sure how much higher, though.
 
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Re: US3 Hub Connection Flow vs Local Enplanement stats

Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:32 am

UPlog wrote:
So if sorted by airlines:

Doesn't really tell you much, seeing as several of those gateways (perhaps most notably ORD and DEN, and to a lesser extent the likes of JFK, LAX, SFO, etc) are transfer hubs for multiple carriers.
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Re: US3 Hub Connection Flow vs Local Enplanement stats

Tue Nov 27, 2018 1:52 pm

LAXintl wrote:
LupineChemist wrote:
Also surprised DEN and PHL aren't on the list.


Both slightly below the Top-10 cut off. DEN was 37.3 and PHL 33.1 percent connection flow.

As others noted these are for the entire airport and not for the legacy airline alone which makes them essentially useless for the purpose of evaluating the legacy airlines hubs.
 
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Re: US3 Hub Connection Flow vs Local Enplanement stats

Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:46 pm

Bluegrass60 wrote:
Any stats on WN Focus cities? BWI, MDW, STL, LUV, LAS, BNA etc. Also, do these stats reflect all the regional partners or just mainline?



Good questions, also...
Anyone know of any stats on what % of SW passengers connect vs taking only 1 flight? I am assuming they are much more like a HUB and Spoke carrier than the used to be?
 
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Re: US3 Hub Connection Flow vs Local Enplanement stats

Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:47 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
LupineChemist wrote:
Curious that all of DL's mid continent hubs are so low.


What do you mean, so low? DTW, MSP and SLC are all in the top 10. Why are they consistently high would be a better question.

I see klm617 took your bait.


Given that there are only about 18 hubs in the country in total... That % of connecting traffic compared to overall passenger numbers actually speaks well for those cities. Meaning there is a lot of O&D there compared to cities like CLT and ATL. MSP region has more fortune 500 companies than ATL etc.
 
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Re: US3 Hub Connection Flow vs Local Enplanement stats

Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:51 pm

Bluegrass60 wrote:
Any stats on WN Focus cities? BWI, MDW, STL, LUV, LAS, BNA etc. Also, do these stats reflect all the regional partners or just mainline?


Per BNA's public information officer:

For the 12 month period ending October 2018 our split was as follows*:
· 87.8% O&D
· 12.2% Transfer

(*as reported from directly from the airlines)
 
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Re: US3 Hub Connection Flow vs Local Enplanement stats

Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:09 am

LAXintl wrote:
I thought this might be interesting for some...

Boyd group recently put out a presentation which included info on how U.S. hubs stack up in regards to their percentage of local vs connection traffic flow.

Below it top-10 list of hubs with the greatest percentage of connection enplanements.

1. CLT 70.0%
2. ATL 62.6%
3. DFW 55.2%
4. IAH 52.8%
5. ORD 44.6%
6. MIA 41.6%
7. DTW 41.2%
8. IAD 39.2%
9. MSP 38.1%
10. SLC 37.6%

=

I am not sure as to the time period covered, but suspect its YE2017.


This makes a lot of sense that CLT is number 1 for connections. For example at South Bend, American Eagle has two daily flights to CLT and DFW. When the service was restarted at SBN everyone thought that DFW would do well and AA threw the CLT flights in as a bonus. Well DFW is doing well but CLT seems to be doing better. It would be interesting to compare O/D stats vs connecting traffic for these flights. I think DFW would get more O/D than CLT. In my opinion CLT is also an easier hub to make connections in than Atlanta.
 
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Re: US3 Hub Connection Flow vs Local Enplanement stats

Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:44 am

burnsie28 wrote:
MIflyer12 wrote:
LupineChemist wrote:
Curious that all of DL's mid continent hubs are so low.


What do you mean, so low? DTW, MSP and SLC are all in the top 10. Why are they consistently high would be a better question.

I see klm617 took your bait.


Given that there are only about 18 hubs in the country in total... That % of connecting traffic compared to overall passenger numbers actually speaks well for those cities. Meaning there is a lot of O&D there compared to cities like CLT and ATL. MSP region has more fortune 500 companies than ATL etc.


Not sure what you consider a region, but Atlanta is behind NYC and Houston for corporations and just recently landed Norfolk Southern.
 
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Re: US3 Hub Connection Flow vs Local Enplanement stats

Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:45 pm

Atlwarrior wrote:
burnsie28 wrote:
MIflyer12 wrote:

What do you mean, so low? DTW, MSP and SLC are all in the top 10. Why are they consistently high would be a better question.

I see klm617 took your bait.


Given that there are only about 18 hubs in the country in total... That % of connecting traffic compared to overall passenger numbers actually speaks well for those cities. Meaning there is a lot of O&D there compared to cities like CLT and ATL. MSP region has more fortune 500 companies than ATL etc.


Not sure what you consider a region, but Atlanta is behind NYC and Houston for corporations and just recently landed Norfolk Southern.


My point was strictly that the MSP area has more Fortune 500 HQ's than ATL area does.
 
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Re: US3 Hub Connection Flow vs Local Enplanement stats

Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:55 pm

It's interesting information, although I'm not sure what to do with it given that it reflects all airlines.

On the one hand, clearly the hub operations at the airports will drive connection numbers.

On the other hand, all other operators (who don't have a hub in a given city) will reflect O&D traffic.
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