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asuflyer wrote:Breaking News a Lion Air 737MAX8 PK-LQP has crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang. Links to follow
https://ekonomi.kompas.com/read/2018/10 ... ang-kontak
( In Bahasa Indonesia)
ikolkyo wrote:Flight path is interesting climbs to about 5400ft and bounces around between 5400ft and 4900ft and then dips down to 4500, climbs up to 5500ft then suddenly dips down and contact is lost.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... /#1e5ff318
l87e wrote:ikolkyo wrote:Flight path is interesting climbs to about 5400ft and bounces around between 5400ft and 4900ft and then dips down to 4500, climbs up to 5500ft then suddenly dips down and contact is lost.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... /#1e5ff318
And on Flightaware:
Time (EDT) Latitude Longitude Course kts mph feet Rate
Sun 07:31:50 PM -5.8221 107.1213 ↗ 34° 383 441 2,800 -7,688 Descending
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/PKL ... K/tracklog
Aaron747 wrote:No good indications here - a seemingly unusual climb profile, and airspeed was on significant uptick when tracking was lost.
ikolkyo wrote:Flight path is interesting climbs to about 5400ft and bounces around between 5400ft and 4900ft and then dips down to 4500, climbs up to 5500ft then suddenly dips down and contact is lost.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... /#1e5ff318
Jshank83 wrote:I’ve seen a few comments on it already but I just wanted to ask the question outright since I don’t know a ton about Asian carriers.
I’ve heard of lionair but I don’t know much about them. ULCC? Thoughts on their safety in general? If they are buying new planes that usually is good sign in my mind that they aren’t just buying old ones. Just some background from some of you that have flown them or know them better than me. Thanks.
Zkpilot wrote:A ship reportedly saw it falling from the sky. Would indicate either a catastrophic failure or something like a stall a la AF447 perhaps.
haydenschool wrote:Brand new aircraft gone bye bye...
smileymilo wrote:Zkpilot wrote:A ship reportedly saw it falling from the sky. Would indicate either a catastrophic failure or something like a stall a la AF447 perhaps.
Looking at FR24 radar the speed was good throughout but certainly had control issues as was deviating +/- 800ft and last report shows 2,800ft and 383 knots with a down velocity of + 7,000ft per minute. Not good.
Hopefully a miracle. Must open the question to sabotage as well as maintenance should be fine on a 2 month aircraft.
Fingers crossed for everyone on board.
Regards
Miles
YellowJ wrote:Not to take away the focus from this sad situation; but is this a record from delivery to crash for any airline and/or aircraft made?
KICT wrote:This airline needs to be shut down. They are out of control.
YellowJ wrote:Not to take away the focus from this sad situation; but is this a record from delivery to crash for any airline and/or aircraft made?
YellowJ wrote:Not to take away the focus from this sad situation; but is this a record from delivery to crash for any airline and/or aircraft made?
Planeyguy wrote:Let's hope its not the problem with the 737MAX...
musman9853 wrote:YellowJ wrote:Not to take away the focus from this sad situation; but is this a record from delivery to crash for any airline and/or aircraft made?
Even China Airlines 605 lasted 3 months.
gia777 wrote:YellowJ wrote:Not to take away the focus from this sad situation; but is this a record from delivery to crash for any airline and/or aircraft made?
Most probably yes and I remembered they did it before with their brand new 737-800 crashed just short of the runway in Bali (everyone survived)
Lion Air has becoming a joke in my country and they always always always screw up on many things... the problem is...they are cheap to fly so most below avarage ppl take Lion.
I am no rich but I always travel with Garuda no matter what. sometimes by train too. less trouble. damn I am flying in 3 days.... lol
afterburner wrote:Lion Air was one of the first few Indonesian airlines that were removed from the EU airline blacklist.
ikolkyo wrote:musman9853 wrote:YellowJ wrote:Not to take away the focus from this sad situation; but is this a record from delivery to crash for any airline and/or aircraft made?
Even China Airlines 605 lasted 3 months.
I think I remember reading about a 707 on delivery flight that crashed.
YellowJ wrote:Not to take away the focus from this sad situation; but is this a record from delivery to crash for any airline and/or aircraft made?
afterburner wrote:ikolkyo wrote:musman9853 wrote:
Even China Airlines 605 lasted 3 months.
I think I remember reading about a 707 on delivery flight that crashed.
How about British Midland flight 92 that crashed in Kegworth, Leicestershire, UK? The 737-400 was less than four months old.
YellowJ wrote:Not to take away the focus from this sad situation; but is this a record from delivery to crash for any airline and/or aircraft made?
YellowJ wrote:Not to take away the focus from this sad situation; but is this a record from delivery to crash for any airline and/or aircraft made?