North Central & East Coast Florida Thread - 2018

727LOVER · Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:54 pm

A few people have been asking for it, so...here ya go ! :bouncy:

Covering JAX, UST, GNV, DAB, MLB, VRB

Jacksonville International Airport (JAX)

Silver Airways is leaving. This leaves JAX without a nonstop to TPA, first time in decades

Northeast Florida Regional Airport(UST)

Elite Airways has dropped it's Mayo Clinic shuttle, so UST is out. That leaves Via Air as the only carrier.

Gainesville Regional Airport (GNV)

Not a whole lot happening @ GNV, but you guys can keep track of charters for Gators games, home & away
DL seems to have added capacity on their early morning flight. Was a Boeing 717, now it's an A320 . A few days in November, it's an MD-80. Haven't seen an aircraft that big since Eastern with 727-200....and that was a loooong time ago !

Daytona Beach International Airport (DAB)

Sunwing starts service on Mondays & Thursdays starting January 28, 2019 with Boeing 737-800

Melbourne International Airport (MLB)

AA will start PHL on Saturdays starting Feb 16, 2019. On December 19, AA goes from two to three CLT flights, but loses mainline. Elite was to start EYW on October 19, but that has been canceled. PWM, ISP, BIM flights remain. Porter is returning, not sure of the date and which routes

Vero Beach Regional Airport (VRB)

Elite Airways is currently fliying to AVL & EWR

PLEASE, ENJOY THE THREAD :spin:

Cubsrule · Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:17 pm

I love the DH shot. Between business in south Georgia and annual family trips to Amelia Island, JAX is one of my most frequent destinations. The ease of use is great and the renovations were sorely needed, but it also seems to have lost a ton of capacity in the past 10 or 15 years.

MIAFLLPBIFlyer · Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:19 pm

Well we had the AA A321 incident where a student pilot jumped the fence and tried to do something with the plane at MLB recently...

727LOVER · Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:19 pm

DAMN !
I was just scolding someone about this the other day :lol:

That should be ORLANDO MELBOURNE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT

A.net hasn't changed the name in it's files

Cubsrule wrote:
I love the DH shot.

Trying to find an airliner pic in the last 3 years was difficult all of these airports

KMCOFlyer · Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:25 pm

Another tidbit on MLB is the 6am DL ATL flight is being upgauged to a A321 in October.

aaflyer777 · Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:49 pm

Fingers crossed MLB-PHL flight goes daily

Dominion301 · Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:02 pm

Regarding Porter, they’re back at MLB around December 18th. Weekly flights to YOW, YTZ and YQG.

DeltaRules · Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:07 pm

Good for Melbourne landing PHL nonstops. Here's hoping American will send that about 80 miles up the coast as well- I wouldn't mind having an alternate hub to connect through on either airline to get into DAB.

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Oslim540 · Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:11 pm

Has there been anything on the Delegation DAB sent to NYC just a few days ago? I haven't heard anything since their FB post on it (https://www.facebook.com/flydaytonafirs ... 180522244/)

any speculation on what it could be? I am thinking it could be discussions for BOS flights or perhaps a 2nd JFK flight

727LOVER · Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:16 pm

DeltaRules wrote:
Good for Melbourne landing PHL nonstops. Here's hoping American will send that about 80 miles up the coast as well- I wouldn't mind having an alternate hub to connect through on either airline to get into DAB.

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SRQ & EYW are getting them too...why no DAB, couldn't say

Edit: also, looks like VPS, ECP & PNS are getting ORD... :lol:

...along with EYW

Kronesian · Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:13 pm

KMCOFlyer wrote:
Another tidbit on MLB is the 6am DL ATL flight is being upgauged to a A321 in October.

Yep, I'll be on it October 13th. Come November, it is going to a 737-900ER. The 5:30pm flight also goes up to an Airbus A320.

KICT · Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:07 pm

How is DEN-JAX doing?

DeltaRules · Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:18 pm

I found it surprising there was no mention in the terminal of Sunwing when I left yesterday. They had orange and white balloons in the terminal last week with their logo.

Kronesian wrote:
KMCOFlyer wrote:
Another tidbit on MLB is the 6am DL ATL flight is being upgauged to a A321 in October.

Yep, I'll be on it October 13th. Come November, it is going to a 737-900ER. The 5:30pm flight also goes up to an Airbus A320.

Not surprised to see that. The RON at DAB is often upgauged, be it a 738, 321, or 757. It's interesting to see how similar service at the two airports is.

doulasc · Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:47 am

I am wondering how is JetBlue doing at DAB and will MLB be a possibility for JetBlue in the future.

KICT · Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:57 am

Considering MLB is marketing itself as an Orlando area airport now, I'm not sure JetBlue sees much value added in serving both.

DeltaRules · Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:59 am

doulasc wrote:
I am wondering how is JetBlue doing at DAB and will MLB be a possibility for JetBlue in the future.

86% LF for the year, which is better than I thought it would be. That's compared to DL's 93% and AA's 89%.

http://www.flydaytonafirst.com/core/fil ... -Stats.pdf

DeltaRules · Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:58 am

I've found it interesting that the etched glass at CO's former counter at DAB still remains. Kind of an interesting reference to the past when all the others were removed long ago.

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727LOVER · Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:52 pm

WOW...new service at GNV

AA starting GNV-DFW on March 3....daily/year round.

Anyone know why Northeast Florida Airport IATA and ICAO codes are different? :confused:

jfklganyc · Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:05 pm

I have heard some not good things about the future of B6 at DAB.

Take that for what it is worth...

But I am worried

jfklganyc · Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:07 pm

Oslim540 wrote:
Has there been anything on the Delegation DAB sent to NYC just a few days ago? I haven't heard anything since their FB post on it (https://www.facebook.com/flydaytonafirs ... 180522244/)

any speculation on what it could be? I am thinking it could be discussions for BOS flights or perhaps a 2nd JFK flight

Don’t bet on it sadly

evank516 · Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:19 pm

jfklganyc wrote:
I have heard some not good things about the future of B6 at DAB.

Take that for what it is worth...

But I am worried

When did you hear that? About a week ago you seemed confident it would be sticking around. They're seeing some pretty nice loads in the busy season and they're carrying more pax to JFK than CO averaged to EWR. They had 3 months with 90%+ loads, but August didn't do well this year.

http://www.flydaytonafirst.com/core/fil ... -Stats.pdf

Also Runway 7L/25R at DAB is closing for about 15 days starting Sunday so air carriers will be using 16/34.

jfklganyc · Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:34 pm

I hope my info is wrong.

evank516 · Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:47 pm

jfklganyc wrote:
I hope my info is wrong.

Can you elaborate a bit?

mia · Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:09 pm

AA announced 2x DFW-GNV . Flight will be operated on ERJ-145 beginning on Mar 2019.

evank516 · Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:29 pm

727LOVER wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:
Good for Melbourne landing PHL nonstops. Here's hoping American will send that about 80 miles up the coast as well- I wouldn't mind having an alternate hub to connect through on either airline to get into DAB.

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SRQ & EYW are getting them too...why no DAB, couldn't say

Edit: also, looks like VPS, ECP & PNS are getting ORD... ...along with EYW

Let's put it this way. If B6 is having trouble making JFK work (which could probably be fixed easily once the A220 comes online with them), PHL will DEFINITELY not work. I'm going to be honest, if DL ran an A220 on LGA/JFK-DAB it would probably be more successful in the event B6 pulled out of DAB.

DeltaRules · Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:45 pm

B6 dropped DAB.

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/ ... 005860/en/

DAB can't win without losing.

sargester · Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:49 pm

evank516 wrote:
727LOVER wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:
Good for Melbourne landing PHL nonstops. Here's hoping American will send that about 80 miles up the coast as well- I wouldn't mind having an alternate hub to connect through on either airline to get into DAB.

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SRQ & EYW are getting them too...why no DAB, couldn't say

Edit: also, looks like VPS, ECP & PNS are getting ORD... ...along with EYW

Let's put it this way. If B6 is having trouble making JFK work (which could probably be fixed easily once the A220 comes online with them), PHL will DEFINITELY not work. I'm going to be honest, if DL ran an A220 on LGA/JFK-DAB it would probably be more successful in the event B6 pulled out of DAB.

They tried DAB, it didn't work... the only thing you can fill to DAB on the daily is maybe a CR9 from DL or E175 from AA

evank516 · Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:34 pm

sargester wrote:
evank516 wrote:
727LOVER wrote:

SRQ & EYW are getting them too...why no DAB, couldn't say

Edit: also, looks like VPS, ECP & PNS are getting ORD... ...along with EYW

Let's put it this way. If B6 is having trouble making JFK work (which could probably be fixed easily once the A220 comes online with them), PHL will DEFINITELY not work. I'm going to be honest, if DL ran an A220 on LGA/JFK-DAB it would probably be more successful in the event B6 pulled out of DAB.

They tried DAB, it didn't work... the only thing you can fill to DAB on the daily is maybe a CR9 from DL or E175 from AA

I'm well aware of what DL has tried. They tried Saturday only service running at $600 round trip nearly a decade ago when economic conditions were not what they were today. Either way, oh well.

DeltaRules · Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:31 pm

There's a new orange glow inside DAB:

https://www.facebook.com/flydaytonafirs ... &__tn__=-R

Kronesian · Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:51 pm

Checking the Elite Airways website, MLB-SRQ is now available, beginning January 10th through May 30th Thursdays and Sundays.

klm617 · Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:44 pm

Dominion301 wrote:
Regarding Porter, they’re back at MLB around December 18th. Weekly flights to YOW, YTZ and YQG.

Great to see the YQG-MLB flights went well that they are returning this year. What do you suppose makes YQG-MLB via while DTW-MLB isn't ?.

dfwjim1 · Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:15 pm

Is there much of a cargo market in and out of the airports that are being discussed?

osprey12 · Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:51 pm

JAX has regular FedEx and UPS air cargo flights. A USPS facilitiy is also located on the airport. The surrounding area has several large sort facilities for both FedEx and UPS with both expanding in the last couple years with the addition of two large Amazon facilities.

Dominion301 · Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:06 pm

klm617 wrote:
Dominion301 wrote:
Regarding Porter, they’re back at MLB around December 18th. Weekly flights to YOW, YTZ and YQG.

Great to see the YQG-MLB flights went well that they are returning this year. What do you suppose makes YQG-MLB via while DTW-MLB isn't ?.

Probably the 74 seater Q400 and the fact it's the only transborder route out of YQG and once a week at that.

727LOVER · Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:09 pm

DL A220 was @ DAB...why?
practice? :mrgreen:

727LOVER · Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:23 pm

Reported in another thread, although I can't find a press release. However, the flights do show up on the airline's site

Spirit starting JAX-BWI and JAX-FLL in February...flights appear to be daily

DAB....AA adding a 5th flight to CLT in March, making up for that lost B6 capacity, I suppose

JAXDan · Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:21 pm

727LOVER wrote:
Reported in another thread, although I can't find a press release. However, the flights do show up on the airline's site

Spirit starting JAX-BWI and JAX-FLL in February...flights appear to be daily

DAB....AA adding a 5th flight to CLT in March, making up for that lost B6 capacity, I suppose

Here's the press release, http://ir.spirit.com/news-releases/news-release-details/more-go-jax-spirit-airlines-celebrates-veterans-day-more-routes

Adding 2 routes before the first 2 even start is hopefully a good sign of Spirit's commitment to JAX.

727LOVER · Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:23 am

JAXDan wrote:
727LOVER wrote:
Reported in another thread, although I can't find a press release. However, the flights do show up on the airline's site

Spirit starting JAX-BWI and JAX-FLL in February...flights appear to be daily

DAB....AA adding a 5th flight to CLT in March, making up for that lost B6 capacity, I suppose

Here's the press release, http://ir.spirit.com/news-releases/news-release-details/more-go-jax-spirit-airlines-celebrates-veterans-day-more-routes

Adding 2 routes before the first 2 even start is hopefully a good sign of Spirit's commitment to JAX.

You had this buried in the other thread....you really should start a new thread :bouncy:

727LOVER · Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:23 am

727LOVER wrote:
Elite Airways has dropped it's Mayo Clinic shuttle, so UST is out. That leaves Via Air as the only carrier.

Looks like they are currently without an airline now

DeltaRules · Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:21 pm

The fifth DAB-CLT daily is nice, but I'd have rather had another hub (PHL, DCA, MIA).

727LOVER wrote:
DL A220 was @ DAB...why?
practice?

That's what I figured. On a related note, Sunwing came to DAB today:

https://www.facebook.com/flydaytonafirs ... &__tn__=-R

Might be too much to read into given it could've just been an open area for a photo op, but that looks like Gate 5, which AA still lays some claim to but largely goes unused.

JAXDan · Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:31 pm

Jacksonville Aviation Authority has officially named Mark VanLoh former head of TUL as its new CEO.
http://news.wjct.org/post/jacksonville-aviation-authority-hires-new-ceo

727LOVER · Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:44 pm

I just found out a few days ago that JAX has an observation area. It's not a great one, but it's something !

evank516 · Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:04 pm

727LOVER wrote:
DL A220 was @ DAB...why?
practice?

Honestly, once there are enough in the fleet and they finish the upgauges on the routes they want A220s on, I think the aircraft would be a viable option to fill in the void on LGA/JFK-DAB.

Should also be noted that DL is operating a mainline only schedule on JFK-JAX.

DeltaRules · Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:05 pm

Silver to DAB, once daily to FLL starting in January: https://www.news-journalonline.com/news ... le-flights

There are also some nuggets in the article about traffic at DAB.

evank516 · Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:08 pm

DeltaRules wrote:
Silver to DAB, once daily to FLL starting in January: https://www.news-journalonline.com/news ... le-flights

There are also some nuggets in the article about traffic at DAB.

Good add IMHO despite their reputation. Keeps jetBlue in the loop despite their exit and brings United opportunities to the area as well.

DeltaRules · Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:24 pm

Silver starts 1-16-19. Flight is a RON on a Saab 340.

DeltaRules · Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:03 am

I wonder where they'll stick Silver and Sunwing at DAB. DL has Gates 2 and 4, AA has 3 and uses 5 for overflow. B6 is abandoning 6, and I've never seen an airline use 1 in the 16 years I've had ties to the area.

Silver would presumably be ramp boarding, too; it seems to me most gates have a "Commuter Gate X" marking which can be seen from airside.

evank516 · Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:57 pm

DeltaRules wrote:
I wonder where they'll stick Silver and Sunwing at DAB. DL has Gates 2 and 4, AA has 3 and uses 5 for overflow. B6 is abandoning 6, and I've never seen an airline use 1 in the 16 years I've had ties to the area.

Silver would presumably be ramp boarding, too; it seems to me most gates have a "Commuter Gate X" marking which can be seen from airside.

Sunwing is using 5 from what I can tell. They had that special flight recently that brought those travel agents and Sunwing personnel to visit and based on the pictures the aircraft was parked at Gate 5 so I'm assuming they will use it for their normal ops since it shouldn't interfere with AA's schedule anyway. The only time AA needs the overflow gate is if they have 2 RONs. Mind you Delta was using gate 6 as overflow until B6 started up, and used 1 when AirTran was in town for overflow. I actually boarded a Delta flight from Gate 1 in June of 2008 while they were doing repairs to Gate 2 I believe (and I'm guessing the 7:15ish departure was parked at Gate 4). As for Silver, the News Journal Article says they are going to take over jetBlue's ticket counter so I can only assume they'll be taking over Gate 6 as well.

Oslim540 · Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:51 pm

evank516 wrote:
Sunwing is using 5 from what I can tell. They had that special flight recently that brought those travel agents and Sunwing personnel to visit and based on the pictures the aircraft was parked at Gate 5 so I'm assuming they will use it for their normal ops since it shouldn't interfere with AA's schedule anyway.

from what I saw they initially parked at 1 or 3 and were towed to 5 around 4 PM from what I saw. I also know that aircraft had MX issues because they had to send a relief flight, but I dont know the specifics, and from what I saw the pictures were taken at 5 so I dont know exactly, which gate they plan to use, but i've heard they plan to use 1.

evank516 · Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:30 pm

Oslim540 wrote:
evank516 wrote:
Sunwing is using 5 from what I can tell. They had that special flight recently that brought those travel agents and Sunwing personnel to visit and based on the pictures the aircraft was parked at Gate 5 so I'm assuming they will use it for their normal ops since it shouldn't interfere with AA's schedule anyway.

from what I saw they initially parked at 1 or 3 and were towed to 5 around 4 PM from what I saw. I also know that aircraft had MX issues because they had to send a relief flight, but I dont know the specifics, and from what I saw the pictures were taken at 5 so I dont know exactly, which gate they plan to use, but i've heard they plan to use 1.

Could be. 1 hasn't really been in use for quite some time. There's really no overflow anymore that supports DL or AA needing to use it and DL already has two gates to cover their RON flights. That would probably leave Silver at 6 unless they both use 1 which is possible since their schedules don't overlap.

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