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Groupe ADP is opening a new 6,000 sq.m building in Hall 1 of the West Terminal. This expansion, equipped with four new pier-served stands for medium-haul aircraft, will increase the terminal's aircraft capacity. This new infrastructure, made necessary by the regular increase in number of passengers at Paris-Orly, will improve service by increasing the size of the boarding and deplaning areas, and will increase capacity in Hall 1, from 4.8 to 5.5 million passengers per year.
MrBren wrote:CDG projects (French only, note that future terminal 4 is not covered yet): https://www.parisaeroport.fr/passagers/paris-aeroport-change/paris-cdg-change
ro1960 wrote:MrBren wrote:CDG projects (French only, note that future terminal 4 is not covered yet): https://www.parisaeroport.fr/passagers/paris-aeroport-change/paris-cdg-change
Do you have any information about T4? From this article it seems that it will be built East of T1 and North of T2, but that T3 will disappear.
https://www.journal-aviation.com/actualites/39775-le-terminal-4-de-paris-cdg-derniere-grande-infrastructure-de-la-plateforme
Begues wrote:
I think the main focus will be to modernize the today underused T1 before building a new terminal. It is not like the airport lack gates right now. With just the existing terminals the airport could handle over 90 million passengers, so it is more a question of just modernizing existing facilities.
Begues wrote:I think the main focus will be to modernize the today underused T1 before building a new terminal. It is not like the airport lack gates right now. With just the existing terminals the airport could handle over 90 million passengers, so it is more a question of just modernizing existing facilities.
MrBren wrote:- T3 should be demolished in fine
ro1960 wrote:MrBren wrote:- T3 should be demolished in fine
I wonder where the T3's LCC operations will move.
MrBren wrote:ro1960 wrote:MrBren wrote:- T3 should be demolished in fine
I wonder where the T3's LCC operations will move.
Good question indeed.
SCQ83 wrote:I hope they clean and "sanitise" the current terminals at ORY and CDG.
CDG T1 has even a reasonable number of homeless people that give the place a dodgy, bus station like feeling.
FlyRow wrote:MrBren wrote:ro1960 wrote:
I wonder where the T3's LCC operations will move.
Good question indeed.
Maybe the T2G terminal?They could extend the tarmac there and use bus gates?
zkncj wrote:When is ORY going todo something about the gate 31 departure area in Quest?
This area is too small to handle a couple of A320s, let alone the 777-300s that use it.
Had to use these gates again recently, and the gate area was just full of people sitting on the floor.
ro1960 wrote:zkncj wrote:The new junction building set to open in 2019 should take some of the load off terminals Sud and Ouest. I wonder if they will have a centralized security check area, freeing up space for the gate lounges in both terminals. Unless they build more retail space instead!
MrBren wrote:ro1960 wrote:zkncj wrote:The new junction building set to open in 2019 should take some of the load off terminals Sud and Ouest. I wonder if they will have a centralized security check area, freeing up space for the gate lounges in both terminals. Unless they build more retail space instead!
There is a video explaining how Orly West and South will migrate to Orly 1, Orly 2, Orly 3 and Orly 4 within one single terminal: https://vimeo.com/274477254.
Begues wrote:ro1960 wrote:MrBren wrote:CDG projects (French only, note that future terminal 4 is not covered yet): https://www.parisaeroport.fr/passagers/paris-aeroport-change/paris-cdg-change
Do you have any information about T4? From this article it seems that it will be built East of T1 and North of T2, but that T3 will disappear.
https://www.journal-aviation.com/actualites/39775-le-terminal-4-de-paris-cdg-derniere-grande-infrastructure-de-la-plateforme
I think the main focus will be to modernize the today underused T1 before building a new terminal. It is not like the airport lack gates right now. With just the existing terminals the airport could handle over 90 million passengers, so it is more a question of just modernizing existing facilities.
cokepopper wrote:Begues wrote:ro1960 wrote:
Do you have any information about T4? From this article it seems that it will be built East of T1 and North of T2, but that T3 will disappear.
https://www.journal-aviation.com/actualites/39775-le-terminal-4-de-paris-cdg-derniere-grande-infrastructure-de-la-plateforme
I think the main focus will be to modernize the today underused T1 before building a new terminal. It is not like the airport lack gates right now. With just the existing terminals the airport could handle over 90 million passengers, so it is more a question of just modernizing existing facilities.
The airport isn’t lacking gates?
That hasn’t been my experience, being bussed to the pad
And seeing many aircraft sitting there.
MrBren wrote:Here is an article about the ongoing changes at CDG T1 with the construction of nodal and connecting buildings between the terminal’s satellites 1 and 3.
http://cdg.parisaeroport.fr/linking-terminal-1-satellites/?lang=en
MrBren wrote:Begues wrote:I think the main focus will be to modernize the today underused T1 before building a new terminal. It is not like the airport lack gates right now. With just the existing terminals the airport could handle over 90 million passengers, so it is more a question of just modernizing existing facilities.
There is an ongoing project to merge some T1 satellites in order to increase the terminal capacity by 1.2 million passengers. Delivery is expected in 2020.
Source: https://twitter.com/GroupeADP
MrBren wrote:
MrBren wrote:Here are the renders of the future huge CDG terminal 4.
[url="https://twitter.com/BrpParis/status/1050669754556416002"]https://twitter.com/BrpParis/status/1050669754556416002[/url]
https://www.lesechos.fr/industrie-services/tourisme-transport/0302413588416-voila-a-quoi-ressemblera-le-futur-terminal-4-de-roissy-cdg-2213755.php
Air traffic is constantly increasing and to support this growth, Paris-Orly airport has expanded and underwent a massive metamorphosis to become Orly 1-2-3-4.
With 80,000 m2 of additional space, your travel environment will be completely redesigned to simplify your journey from your arrival at the airport to your boarding lounge.
YIMBY wrote:MrBren wrote:Begues wrote:I think the main focus will be to modernize the today underused T1 before building a new terminal. It is not like the airport lack gates right now. With just the existing terminals the airport could handle over 90 million passengers, so it is more a question of just modernizing existing facilities.
There is an ongoing project to merge some T1 satellites in order to increase the terminal capacity by 1.2 million passengers. Delivery is expected in 2020.
Source: https://twitter.com/GroupeADP
NO. That is a historic monument that should be conserved
MrBren wrote:- AF is also in favor of having a new satellite to terminal 2E that would replace terminal 2G
VSMUT wrote:MrBren wrote:- AF is also in favor of having a new satellite to terminal 2E that would replace terminal 2G
Ugh, cant they just do like every sensible airport in the world and place it all in one single building for once?!?
I dont care if all the flights have to be boarded by bus, but this concept of having separate satellites is a complete mess. Especially for schengen flights, where 40 minutes connections are becoming the norm.
ro1960 wrote:2E doesn’t handle Schengen flights. If 2G is replaced by an additional 2E satellite, 2G’s Schengen traffic will probably be moved to another section af CDG.
ro1960 wrote:A single terminal building doesn’t necessarily reduce connection times. The future T4 will be a single building terminal (see further up the thread). Yet, given its size, connecting from end to the other may take as much as 40 minutes.
MrBren wrote:All change at Paris-Orly: official opening of the new Orly 3 building
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVt1bdw8eQo
MrBren wrote:Begues wrote:I think the main focus will be to modernize the today underused T1 before building a new terminal. It is not like the airport lack gates right now. With just the existing terminals the airport could handle over 90 million passengers, so it is more a question of just modernizing existing facilities.
There is an ongoing project to merge some T1 satellites in order to increase the terminal capacity by 1.2 million passengers. Delivery is expected in 2020.
Source: https://twitter.com/GroupeADP
MrBren wrote:All change at Paris-Orly: official opening of the new Orly 3 building
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVt1bdw8eQo
MrBren wrote:According to la Tribune:
- Paris airports and AF agreed to postpone the opening of the new terminal 4 to 2028 (previously announced for 2024)
- AF is also in favor of having a new satellite to terminal 2E that would replace terminal 2G
https://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-finance/services/transport-logistique/air-france-fait-decaler-la-mise-en-service-du-terminal-4-de-roissy-a-2028-804866.html
william wrote:MrBren wrote:According to la Tribune:
- Paris airports and AF agreed to postpone the opening of the new terminal 4 to 2028 (previously announced for 2024)
- AF is also in favor of having a new satellite to terminal 2E that would replace terminal 2G
https://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-finance/services/transport-logistique/air-france-fait-decaler-la-mise-en-service-du-terminal-4-de-roissy-a-2028-804866.html
What is wrong with 2G other than being in another parish from the other terminals?
A380MSN004 wrote:william wrote:MrBren wrote:According to la Tribune:
- Paris airports and AF agreed to postpone the opening of the new terminal 4 to 2028 (previously announced for 2024)
- AF is also in favor of having a new satellite to terminal 2E that would replace terminal 2G
https://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-finance/services/transport-logistique/air-france-fait-decaler-la-mise-en-service-du-terminal-4-de-roissy-a-2028-804866.html
What is wrong with 2G other than being in another parish from the other terminals?
2G is Simply connected by bus and location is a bit remote.
Would be interesting To know if they plan to connect the Roissyval To the 2G