Aeroméxico E190 Accident in Durango July 31

AM · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:26 pm

Apparently just after take off from DGO bound for MEX. Not many details at this time.

Most probably an Embraer, either E170/E175/E190.

reffado · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:28 pm

Brazilian media reporting E190 aircraft, XA-GAL. Terrible.

Venatt · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:32 pm

Aeromexico crashes after take off from Guadalupe Victoria Airport in Durango Mex. I would guess it's an Aeroconect Embraer 170 or 190 with a hundred people on board:

http://diario.mx/Nacional/2018-07-31_c8 ... n-durango/

edu2703 · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:33 pm

Is an Embraer E190

448205 · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:34 pm

Tail looks intact. Maybe an overrun.

Venatt · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:36 pm

Seems like there are survivors.

george77300 · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:37 pm

It’s an E190. Aeromexico has confirmed on Twitter they are aware of the incident. No reports on casualties or causes yet. Probably too early for he former and only speculation on the latter.

PatrickZ80 · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:38 pm

Varsity1 wrote:
Tail looks intact. Maybe an overrun.

I wouldn't call this intact.

That plane will never fly again. It's totally wrecked.

Just hope for the best for everybody that was on board.

flymco753 · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:40 pm

AM2431?

LHUSA · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:41 pm

Concerning that the back right door doesn't appear to have been opened for use during evacuation. Hoping for the best!

atcpeter · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:41 pm

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://enelaire.mx/se-accidenta-avion-de-aeromexico-en-durango/&xid=17259,15700021,15700124,15700126,15700149,15700168,15700186,15700190,15700201,15700208&usg=ALkJrhhPH3gLcihDnXNUV8EVYw68eXGkcQ

Local media reporting approximately 80 injuries, according to this story. Also unspecified “adverse weather” in the area at the time of the crash.

george77300 · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:42 pm

Just seen a report saying 80 people injured. No idea how many onboard but that seems to indicate few or no fatalities which has got to be good hopefully.

Revelation · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:42 pm

george77300 · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:43 pm

PatrickZ80 wrote:
Varsity1 wrote:
Tail looks intact. Maybe an overrun.

I wouldn't call this intact.

That plane will never fly again. It's totally wrecked.

Just hope for the best for everybody that was on board.

He is correct. Tail does seem intact and could easily be an overrun. The rest of the plane isn’t obviously.

Erebus · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:44 pm

Looking at that picture, my gut feeling is that everyone evacuated in time, hopefully. :crossfingers:

tonytifao · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:44 pm

Seems like it’s missing the top?

rufflesx · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:45 pm

This video was apparently shot 5 minutes after the incident

https://twitter.com/i/status/1024406338468753408

tonytifao · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:47 pm

I see pictures on twitter which seems to be of a flight attendant well and alive. So it must be good news.

tonytifao · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:48 pm

https://twitter.com/jorge_telemundo/sta ... 66400?s=12

tomcat · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:49 pm

rufflesx wrote:
This video was apparently shot 5 minutes after the incident

https://twitter.com/i/status/1024406338468753408

The caption reads "At least 80 casualties".

george77300 · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:51 pm

Confirmed as Aeromexico 2431 due to Mexico City.

E190. Capacity 99 + crew.

80 injuries. (Seems like everyone made it out alive currently.)

(Similar to AF at Toronto in how damaged and outcome. Looked terrible but everyone made it out first and then fire burnt the top off.)

WkndWanderer · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:52 pm

rufflesx wrote:
This video was apparently shot 5 minutes after the incident

https://twitter.com/i/status/1024406338468753408

Does that look like a trail of ripped up field/debris behind the main wreck in that video? Like it slid through the field for a while before stopping.

ikolkyo · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:52 pm

Does look like an overrun, hope many got out.

adriaticus · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:55 pm

AM 2431 DGO-MEX XA-GAL E190

Apparently crashed on takeoff. Governor's office informed 80 pax have been / are being taken to nearby hospitals.
I've flown that bird. Yikes. Let's pray for no casualties. My thoughts go to passengers and friends who are pilots (including fellow a.nutter Ghost77) flight attendants in Aeromexico Connect.

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EMGrinan · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:59 pm

Flight AM2431

gatibosgru · Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:00 pm

If everyone made it out safe it's great news.

uta999 · Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:01 pm

In the video the aircraft appears to have turned 90 degrees from the end of the runway. Possibly weather related.

aerolimani · Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:07 pm

According to this ABC News article, an aborted takeoff due to bad weather. https://abcn.ws/2OyAhgL

flyfresno · Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:07 pm

I wonder if this is a case of the takeoff being aborted after the decision speed (V1)?

aemoreira1981 · Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:13 pm

I hope everyone got out alive.

edu2703 · Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:14 pm

Governor of Durango confirms there are no fatalities

Super80Fan · Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:14 pm

george77300 wrote:
Confirmed as Aeromexico 2431 due to Mexico City.

E190. Capacity 99 + crew.

80 injuries. (Seems like everyone made it out alive currently.)

(Similar to AF at Toronto in how damaged and outcome. Looked terrible but everyone made it out first and then fire burnt the top off.)

Hoping it's like Air France 358, where it looks bad but everyone got off alive.

PlanesNTrains · Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:14 pm

aemoreira1981 wrote:
I hope everyone got out alive.

One of the articles mentioned 80 people on board while the other mentioned 101. We heard that about 80 people have been taken to hospitals, so hopefully if there were 101 the rest were not injured.

george77300 · Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:16 pm

LATEST CONFORMATION

95 onboard (unsure if 95 pax + crew or 95 total) but,

ALL SURVIVED

xaapb · Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:16 pm

Durango Governor confirming no fatalites in this accident. https://twitter.com/AispuroDurango/stat ... 5380127744
Tweet in spanish sorry about that.

Greetings.

Super80Fan · Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:19 pm

Happy news, hopefully the injuries are not too severe.

aerolimani · Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:24 pm

And now, Reuters is saying:

Shortly after taking off, the plane made an emergency landing about six miles (10 km) from the airport, Alejandro Cardoza, a spokesman for the state’s civil protection agency, said on local television.

Governor Jose Rosas Aispuro said on local television that the plane was bound for Mexico City.

“The plane was taking off,” said Rosas Aispuro, adding that witnesses told him there was “a bang” and then without warning the plane was on the ground.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mexi ... KL2ZW?il=0

Armodeen · Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:27 pm

This video seems to show a flattened trail leading back towards the runway and the aircraft sitting perpendicular to that trail. Looks more and more like an overrun. *edit Clearly not as it's too far from the airfield as pointed out below, thanks.

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1024406042715668480

Early pictures/video look like they came to a stop relatively intact, and the aircraft was destroyed by the post accident fire.

KrustyTheKlown · Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:30 pm

Armodeen wrote:
This video seems to show a flattened trail leading back towards the runway and the aircraft sitting perpendicular to that trail. Looks more and more like an overrun.

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1024406042715668480

Reports say that the crashing site is 10km away from the airport.

bluejuice · Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:31 pm

george77300 wrote:
LATEST CONFORMATION

95 onboard (unsure if 95 pax + crew or 95 total) but,

ALL SURVIVED

Just read the same. Best possible news for a bad situation. Hope to hear no one was seriously hurt.

cuchopirulo · Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:32 pm

Aborted take off, no fatalities, about 20 injuried

zschocheimages · Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:33 pm

FlightAware right now shows "taxiing for takeoff/left terminal." Doesn't show that they got airborne. I know these things aren't always accurate, especially during incidents...

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AMX2431

asuflyer · Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:35 pm

Unconfirmed reports are saying that there may have been an engine failure on takeoff.

sccutler · Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:37 pm

Recognition to the cabin crew for a successful evacuation - always easy to think of them as service personnel, but in times like this, they're a safety team all the way.

SpeckSpot · Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:39 pm

For what it's worth, some journalists have used language like "fell" and "went down". Which would suggest that it got airborne. I don't know whether to believe that or chalk it up to incompetent journalism, but accurate reporting would be nice.

WeatherPilot · Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:40 pm

From the pictures I've seen it was clearly an overrun after an aborted takeoff. The burned plane is after everyone was already safely off.

Narfish641 · Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:44 pm

Thank God everyone is ok! This looked really scary!

SpeckSpot · Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:49 pm

According to the Reuters link, the plane took off, and then very quickly made an emergency landing 10 km away from the airport (as reported by Alejandro Cardoza, a spokesman for a state agency). Emergency landing off a runway would cause a debris track that could look like an overrun.

MSJYOP28Apilot · Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:49 pm

If it does turn out to be the result of a RTO after V1, the captain is going to have to justify why he aborted the takeoff when he did. It has to be something pretty serious or extreme post V1 for a pilot to abort instead of continuing the takeoff when you get to that speed due to the risk of an overrun.

I wonder if this could be a case of a thunderstorm outflow boundary quickly changing the wind direction. The headwind or crosswind component quickly turning to a strong tailwind. DGO is a high altitude airport. While it has a 9500ft runway, with altitude and temperature that isnt all that long. Depending on the scenario, I could see a non V1 abort due to a sudden strong shear to a tailwind causing the overrun.

flybynight · Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:54 pm

Everyone alive which is the best outcome.
While the plane is destroyed, I bet right after impact/stop it was fairly well intact, but burned up afterwards. Of course that is a guess. With everyone alive, though, I think it is a likely situation.

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