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Velocity7 wrote:Qantas16 wrote:Velocity7 wrote:I'm curious. Do these longer flights on 737's (East Coast to DPS or RAR) require any blocking of seats and/or cargo constraints? Are they anywhere near their limits?
I know VA & OD can struggle with their 737s on BNE-DPS... have heard VA asking at the boarding gate for volunteers to offload due to it and OD has previously left luggage behind due to weight.
Thanks, that's interesting. I've flown BNE-DPS with VA quite a few times now and at different times of the year and on each occasion, the flight has never been particularly full - max 75%. I was wondering if it was poor LF's or if there is some type of capacity management in play here considering they fly it daily and on 3 days a week, it operates double daily. You'd think if it were poor LF's there would be an opportunity to improve it by dropping some of the double daily services? Even JQ are only daily (admittedly on 788's) as is OD.
qf789 wrote:For PER based a.netters the Crystal Air 77L that flew in nonstop from LGW last night is currently sucking on a fuel hose, looks like it’s being prepared for departure this afternoon
waoz1 wrote:qf789 wrote:For PER based a.netters the Crystal Air 77L that flew in nonstop from LGW last night is currently sucking on a fuel hose, looks like it’s being prepared for departure this afternoon
Missed it but perth airport page had a good video of it.
RyanairGuru wrote:IndianicWorld wrote:Interesting that ADL seems to be performing stronger than PER for CZ.
Good news for ADL.
In all honesty this isn’t much of a surprise. South Australia receives 38% more Chinese visitors compared to Western Australia, and Chinese visitor growth is faster for SA.
If you include CX then Perth still has more service to Greater China, but CX carry both a fairly high proportion of transfer traffic and a high poroportion of Australian point of sale traffic compared to the PRC carriers, which are disproportionately oriented to Chinese point of sale inbound traffic. For this traffic Adelaide is a larger market than Perth.
I’ve also heard from someone at CA that ADL will be there next Australian market but at this stage their is no timeframe as it isn’t a priority for them and there won’t be any further expansion in Australia until BNE is bedded down.
http://tourism.sa.gov.au/documents/CORP ... %7D&B=True
https://www.tourism.wa.gov.au/Publicati ... c%2017.pdf
planemanofnz wrote:qf789 wrote:The QF deal has only kicked in and only applies to BME.
I thought it became available from November 2017, and was at many other airports too:
... From November, Qantas will offer the discounts
... will be available for personal travel for people who live in Broome, Kalgoorlie, Karratha, Paraburdoo, Port Hedland and Newman. People in Kalgoorlie are expected to receive the biggest discounts.
See: https://thewest.com.au/travel/air-aviat ... b88586128z.
Cheers,
C.
qf789 wrote:Qantas/Air New Zealand codeshare services now open for booking
https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 6545386496
qf789 wrote:Philippine Airlines plans to increase SYD to 11 weekly from 1 Dec 18
https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 7231082498
Philippine Airlines from July 2018 is introducing Airbus A321neo aircraft on Manila – Sydney route, operating along with the A330-300 aircraft. From 10JUL18, 2 of 7 weekly (Day 24 from MNL, Day 35 from SYD) will be operated by A321neo, increasing to 5 weekly from 25JUL18.
aerokiwi wrote:What caused the cancellations into Sydney last night? Was it weather? A lot of colleagues affected and apparently spilled over into pretty much all flights MEL-SYD today, on Virgin at least.
aerokiwi wrote:What caused the cancellations into Sydney last night? Was it weather? A lot of colleagues affected and apparently spilled over into pretty much all flights MEL-SYD today, on Virgin at least.
aerokiwi wrote:What caused the cancellations into Sydney last night? Was it weather? A lot of colleagues affected and apparently spilled over into pretty much all flights MEL-SYD today, on Virgin at least.
mh124 wrote:You need to read a bit more around what you post.
planemanofnz wrote:mh124 wrote:You need to read a bit more around what you post.
I actually posted the original link, you can see - I was responding to a comment someone made about the link that I posted. The deal noted in the content of the post I originally linked could very validly be attributable to part of WA's growth numbers (even if only by a small amount). Is the deal not described properly in the link I posted from The West?
Cheers,
C.
MooLor wrote:qf789 wrote:Philippine Airlines plans to increase SYD to 11 weekly from 1 Dec 18
https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 7231082498
Hmmm, they are going thru the process atm of downgauging most of their dailies from A333 to A321NEO.Philippine Airlines from July 2018 is introducing Airbus A321neo aircraft on Manila – Sydney route, operating along with the A330-300 aircraft. From 10JUL18, 2 of 7 weekly (Day 24 from MNL, Day 35 from SYD) will be operated by A321neo, increasing to 5 weekly from 25JUL18.
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/278945/philippine-airlines-adds-a321neo-sydney-service-from-july-2018/
Time will tell what the mix will be with the 11 weekly.
I am intensely curious as to how their narrow body services will go, that is a long way in an A32x. Within range for the aircraft of course, just a long way for the pax. I'd imagine QF gets the bulk of the premium pax on the route though.
Great route to fly from any of the East Coast cities btw - up the middle of the Gulf of Carpentaria, across the tip of West Papua and over the Maluka Islands. Good to do in the daytime on a LCC, where lack of IFE "coincidentally" coincides with non-enforcement of darkened cabin.
Qantas16 wrote:qf789 wrote:MH134 BNE-KUL has returned to BNE, runway 1/19 will be closed for the next 20 minutes while the aircraft is removed from the runway
https://twitter.com/flightradar24/statu ... 2156763136
This will get a lot of local media attention and is definitely not what MH needed for a ~1 month old route...
aerokiwi wrote:Thanks Moo and qf789. Maybe the same weather front that went through Victoria Tuesday.
tullamarine wrote:Bit of movement on MEL's third runway with Commonwealth announcing compulsory land acquisitions in weekend papers. These acquisitions which covers both the new runway as well as the extension of the existing 09-27 runway is land which is all currently farming as it has been part of the airport planning reservation since the original plans for the airport were released in the 1960s so no development has ever been allowed.
For plane spotters, you need to get in soon as once commencement of construction begins the existing viewing area beside Runway 16/34 will be gone forever. MEL has announced on their website that they are keen to develop new viewing areas once construction is complete but no further details have been announced.
Is the new runway parallel? The last plans I saw some years ago, the runway wasn’t 100% parallel and there would be a traffic convergence point at a not to far off point
Whatsaptudo wrote:It’s only temporary. Goes back to 737 from the end of October. That’s the current plan.
tullamarine wrote:Is the new runway parallel? The last plans I saw some years ago, the runway wasn’t 100% parallel and there would be a traffic convergence point at a not to far off point
The new runway will be parallel to existing 09/27. Existing 09/27 will be extended to 3400m whilst new runway will be 3000m.
tayser wrote:Victorian Government came to the table after Federal Government prodded them with $5bil for Tullamarine Airport Rail Link today.
They've released a route appraisal and surprise surprise, Sunshine/Albion route came out on top (again - has done for multiple studies). Vic Gov will match Federal money, construction to start once the civil/heavy construction completes on the metro tunnel in 2022. Full business case now underway that route has been chosen, supposedly to report back late next year.
Andrews will be using this as part of election promise for November. https://www.urban.com.au/transport/2018 ... -rail-link
MooLor wrote:I know little of Melbourne but Sunshine seems a long way from MEL. Are they proposing some sort of dedicated line to the airport rather than integrate it into the suburban network like BNE and SYD links both are? I know nothing of the issues, but does that explain the years of delay? A simple branch line from somewhere closer could have been done cheaply a long time ago you would think.
Gemuser wrote:Hornberger, reply 439:
Can you elaborate a bit please. From Sunshine I assume you mean the line is along side the standard gauge line to about Airport West then a new branch into the airport. I cannot find any lines closer to the airport than that, on Google maps.
Also this: "construction to start once the civil/heavy construction completes on the metro tunnel in 2022" This seems to make a lot of sense,.
Thanks
Gemuser
Gemuser wrote:Hornberger, reply 439:
Can you elaborate a bit please. From Sunshine I assume you mean the line is along side the standard gauge line to about Airport West then a new branch into the airport. I cannot find any lines closer to the airport than that, on Google maps.
Also this: "construction to start once the civil/heavy construction completes on the metro tunnel in 2022" This seems to make a lot of sense,.
Thanks
Gemuser
qf789 wrote:Malaysia Airlines will send A380 to MEL on 4 different days in SEP
https://twitter.com/airlineroute/status ... 96449?s=21
Gemuser wrote:Hornberger, reply 439:
Can you elaborate a bit please. From Sunshine I assume you mean the line is along side the standard gauge line to about Airport West then a new branch into the airport. I cannot find any lines closer to the airport than that, on Google maps.
Also this: "construction to start once the civil/heavy construction completes on the metro tunnel in 2022" This seems to make a lot of sense,.
Thanks
Gemuser
It will be new track running parallel to existing passenger lines from the city to Sunshine, then new track running parallel to existing freight lines from Sunshine to the Airport.
A simple branch line (from the Craigeburne line) was one of the options considered, but that line is already shared by metro and regional services. You would be looking at 40+ minute travels times in peak periods as Airport services would be stuck behind stopping all stations commuter trains.
The other options of building a new line basically straight to the airport are far more expensive to build and would take a lot long to build.
Melbourne Airport is also quite a bit further out compared to Brisbane and Sydney. It also quite some distance away from existing rail infrastructure (other than the freight lines referred to above).
tullamarine wrote:It will be new track running parallel to existing passenger lines from the city to Sunshine, then new track running parallel to existing freight lines from Sunshine to the Airport.
A simple branch line (from the Craigeburne line) was one of the options considered, but that line is already shared by metro and regional services. You would be looking at 40+ minute travels times in peak periods as Airport services would be stuck behind stopping all stations commuter trains.
The other options of building a new line basically straight to the airport are far more expensive to build and would take a lot long to build.
Melbourne Airport is also quite a bit further out compared to Brisbane and Sydney. It also quite some distance away from existing rail infrastructure (other than the freight lines referred to above).
It seems bizarre that it will take 8 years for this rail link to become a reality. In fact, construction doesn't start for 4 years (around the time of the 2022 state election) and then completion in 2026 (in time for the election after that.) Now, there's a coincidence!!! I can only imagine what the Chinese must make of our infrastructure projects where it takes 8 years to build what is effectively a rail line spur. In that time, they'd have built a completely new airport with transport links as well as a nearby city.
I am a bit concerned about the proposed route; the idea of a new line that would've also created a suburban service through Avondale Heights and the new suburb being built on the old Defence site at Maidstone seems a more long-sighted solution. The suggested journey time of 30 minutes doesn't seem particularly compelling especially if the fare is around $22-$25 which means it would be cheaper for 2 people to get an Uber.
It seems bizarre that it will take 8 years for this rail link to become a reality. In fact, construction doesn't start for 4 years (around the time of the 2022 state election) and then completion in 2026 (in time for the election after that.) Now, there's a coincidence!!! I can only imagine what the Chinese must make of our infrastructure projects where it takes 8 years to build what is effectively a rail line spur. In that time, they'd have built a completely new airport with transport links as well as a nearby city.
Hornberger wrote:Gemuser wrote:Hornberger, reply 439:
Can you elaborate a bit please. From Sunshine I assume you mean the line is along side the standard gauge line to about Airport West then a new branch into the airport. I cannot find any lines closer to the airport than that, on Google maps.
Also this: "construction to start once the civil/heavy construction completes on the metro tunnel in 2022" This seems to make a lot of sense,.
Thanks
Gemuser
That is correct - the new line would be built on the same rail reservation as the existing standard guage line before branching off at Airport Dr.