Future of Exeter Airport

chunhimlai · Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:21 pm

The southwest England is the region which has the least intercontinental service in UK.

When Southwest UK keep growing and become one the most favorable cities in Europe,

Will we see massive growth of Flybe and its hub EXT and become one the airport which serve 6 Continents, as well as BA build 3rd hub in Exeter?

6 runways with 4 concourse which can serve 240m APAX
each concourse consist 3 identical module which length 750m

Two Concourse used for Flybe and Loganair

One for airline within IAG (BA/IB/VY/Level) and OW

One for other airline

StTim · Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:25 pm

6 Runways? You are having a laugh aren't you?

The south west of England is beautiful - but it is also one of the most economically depressed areas of the UK. No way could Exeter support such an airport.

chunhimlai · Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:40 pm

StTim wrote:
6 Runways? You are having a laugh aren't you?

The south west of England is beautiful - but it is also one of the most economically depressed areas of the UK. No way could Exeter support such an airport.

As you say, southwest england has a lot of geographical attraction and it can attract enough tourists

asctty · Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:50 pm

Where is this Flybe growth coming from? They are really struggling at the moment and have been for years.

Cunard · Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:58 pm

chunhimlai wrote:
The southwest England is the region which has the least intercontinental service in UK.

When Southwest UK keep growing and become one the most favorable cities in Europe,

Will we see massive growth of Flybe and its hub EXT and become one the airport which serve 6 Continents, as well as BA build 3rd hub in Exeter?

6 runways with 4 concourse which can serve 240m APAX
each concourse consist 3 identical module which length 750m

Two Concourse used for Flybe and Loganair

One for airline within IAG (BA/IB/VY/Level) and OW

One for other airline

Dude what the hell are you smoking because I want some!

You posted more or less the same idiotic suggestion on the Flybe thread, are you for real because you seem to be from another planet if you seriously think that Exeter could support such routes and your opinion that the Airport could be a 3rd major hub for British Airways is way beyond any normal persons train of thought!

Also the suggestion that Flybe could expand in the way that you envisage is a bit strange considering the current financial status of the airline.

speedbird9 · Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:02 pm

The UK can barely commit to build one additional runway let alone a 6 runway aerotropolis.

"I think you're in the realms on fantasy here Jones"

SCQ83 · Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:05 pm

I don't think 240M PAX is enough for EXT in the next 20 or 30 years.

500 million passengers for Exeter Galaxy Central Spaceport would be a more accurate estimation.

LX138 · Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:37 pm

chunhimlai wrote:
The southwest England is the region which has the least intercontinental service in UK.

I'm assuming you meant European service rather than intercontinental?

The UK can commit to runways, just not in the South East as much.

PatrickZ80 · Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:43 pm

Why on earth would you need 6 runways? Yes, there is some tourism in the region but not that much compared to other regions. See how much tourism Ibiza gets in the summer, and still one runway is enough to handle it. Ibiza is far more popular than Exeter.

A third hub for British Airways? And why would they want that in Exeter, if they want a third hub at all. Unless of course they'd give up Heathrow and move it all to Exeter, but I can't see them do that. Their main focus is London and Exeter by far doesn't draw the amount of visitors of London, certainly not when it comes to business traffic. All of the big business is concentrated in London and thus they need to have their hubs in London. Not in Exeter which really is nothing.

CrawleyBen · Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:30 pm

More chance of flying a chocolate firework to the moon, than Exeter having six runways and BA making it a hub airport.

What next? Emirates turn Cornwall Airport Newquay in to their next A380 destination perhaps :roll:

Ben

Themotionman · Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:33 pm

chunhimlai wrote:
The southwest England is the region which has the least intercontinental service in UK.

When Southwest UK keep growing and become one the most favorable cities in Europe,

Will we see massive growth of Flybe and its hub EXT and become one the airport which serve 6 Continents, as well as BA build 3rd hub in Exeter?

6 runways with 4 concourse which can serve 240m APAX
each concourse consist 3 identical module which length 750m

Two Concourse used for Flybe and Loganair

One for airline within IAG (BA/IB/VY/Level) and OW

One for other airline

Have you lost your mind??? Greater changes of having a 6 runway LCY.

Ryga · Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:38 pm

Well this provides a rather amusing read for a Sunday afternoon :lol:

MalevTU134 · Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:42 pm

Cunard wrote:
chunhimlai wrote:
The southwest England is the region which has the least intercontinental service in UK.

When Southwest UK keep growing and become one the most favorable cities in Europe,

Will we see massive growth of Flybe and its hub EXT and become one the airport which serve 6 Continents, as well as BA build 3rd hub in Exeter?

6 runways with 4 concourse which can serve 240m APAX
each concourse consist 3 identical module which length 750m

Two Concourse used for Flybe and Loganair

One for airline within IAG (BA/IB/VY/Level) and OW

One for other airline

Dude what the hell are you smoking because I want some!

You posted more or less the same idiotic suggestion on the Flybe thread, are you for real because you seem to be from another planet if you seriously think that Exeter could support such routes and your opinion that the Airport could be a 3rd major hub for British Airways is way beyond any normal persons train of thought!

Also the suggestion that Flybe could expand in the way that you envisage is a bit strange considering the current financial status of the airline.

Oh, c'mon, he's only suggesting it to be a 6-continents airport, not 7 continents. He's not a wacko, is he?....hang on...... :boggled:

And that Worldwide Superport with 6 parallel runways...sooo practical... Such a revolutionary design, well thought out!!

Pe@rson · Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:00 pm

I'm Devonian and was born and raised for 18 years 1h north of EXT. I did enjoy your Sunday evening post and I like your imagination, but it'll never happen in a million years - to be polite!

PlymSpotter · Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:10 pm

Might want to look at an Ordnance Survey map - what you are suggesting isn't even technically feasible.

With FlyBe's woes and the scheduled improvements to ground infrastructure, EXT will be lucky to maintain it's current passenger numbers in future, let alone grow.

EChid · Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:18 pm

I lived in Exeter. First, the growth you're suggesting has to be some of the most inefficient use of land I could imagine at an airport...and look at all the fields/pieces of property you're imagining would be taken up by this ridiculous airport. Are you aware that even LHR has only 2 runways right now? The whole appeal of Devon is it's pastoral beauty, I'm not sure what paving over a huge portion of that accomplishes.

Secondly, Exeter is a tiny university town. It still has consistent train service to Bristol and London that almost anyone who wants to go to London or further afield in the UK would take (and I'll remind you, intra-UK is Flybe's core business). If you want to go somewhere else, you take the train to Bristol Airport. It's not that hard.

Thirdly, there are multiple larger cities in the Southwest that would make more sense to develop. Most obviously, Plymouth, which is both larger and features much more industry. Even still, 6 runways is goofy.

I want to see Exeter and the Southwest UK succeed, but this is just ridiculous.

Fitlikemin · Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:39 pm

This reads like a 10yr old child's wishlist.

What a complete waste of bandwidth - more suitable for a comic than a serious aviation forum.

EDIT: Just read the Flybe thread & the same poster has routes from EXE(?!) to all four corner of the globe!! Apart from the fact that Exeter is EXT, now I KNOW this whole thing is a kid's project or a wind up!!! :lol:

WPvsMW · Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:40 pm

This won't work because your plan doesn't connect the S. 3 runways with the N. 3 runways. Other than that...

JamesCousins · Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:50 pm

WPvsMW wrote:
This won't work because your plan doesn't connect the S. 3 runways with the N. 3 runways. Other than that...

I've heard he's already thought of that. Elon Musk is doing a hyperloop tunnel for each of the runways

BENAir01 · Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:29 pm

Wow, never seen that airport design before... very dissimilar from DWC....

Slug71 · Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:45 pm

April 1st was almost 3 months ago.

spinotter · Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:04 pm

Fitlikemin wrote:
This reads like a 10yr old child's wishlist.

What a complete waste of bandwidth - more suitable for a comic than a serious aviation forum.

EDIT: Just read the Flybe thread & the same poster has routes from EXE(?!) to all four corner of the globe!! Apart from the fact that Exeter is EXT, now I KNOW this whole thing is a kid's project or a wind up!!!

This is the best thread that I have read on a.net ever! I can't stop laughing. I give first prize to Exeter Galaxy Central Spaceport.

chunhimlai · Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:25 pm

SCQ83 wrote:
I don't think 240M PAX is enough for EXT in the next 20 or 30 years.

500 million passengers for Exeter Galaxy Central Spaceport would be a more accurate estimation.

The overflow pax will travel via BRS and CWL

chunhimlai · Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:54 pm

LX138 wrote:
chunhimlai wrote:
The southwest England is the region which has the least intercontinental service in UK.

I'm assuming you meant European service rather than intercontinental?

The UK can commit to runways, just not in the South East as much.

No, i mean intercontinental services which go to somewhere outside Europe

AIRTRANSAT767 · Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:05 am

same Dubai world airport

MalevTU134 · Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:37 am

chunhimlai wrote:
SCQ83 wrote:
I don't think 240M PAX is enough for EXT in the next 20 or 30 years.

500 million passengers for Exeter Galaxy Central Spaceport would be a more accurate estimation.

The overflow pax will travel via BRS and CWL

You MUST be trolling us...

chunhimlai · Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:43 am

AIRTRANSAT767 wrote:
same Dubai world airport

DWC used to have similar runway layout but with linear terminal concourses like ATL/DEN

Later the planner remodify the terminal layout to 4 pairs of triple cross but cuts 1 runway

spinotter · Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:45 am

MalevTU134 wrote:
chunhimlai wrote:
SCQ83 wrote:
I don't think 240M PAX is enough for EXT in the next 20 or 30 years.

500 million passengers for Exeter Galaxy Central Spaceport would be a more accurate estimation.

The overflow pax will travel via BRS and CWL

You MUST be trolling us...

You think? There's always PLH and NQY in an emergency when 20 77W's are stacked up over EXT during the most crowded parts of the day and night too!

Fitlikemin · Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:26 am

OK - the very fact that he crashes on in this thread despite the ridicule trying to justify his bedroom project tells me he is trolling.

Jerry123 · Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:14 am

chunhimlai wrote:
SCQ83 wrote:
I don't think 240M PAX is enough for EXT in the next 20 or 30 years.

500 million passengers for Exeter Galaxy Central Spaceport would be a more accurate estimation.

The overflow pax will travel via BRS and CWL

Maybe CWL can have 6 flights a day to EXT! Lol

uta999 · Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:01 am

Shirley you can't be serious?

Perhaps a candidate for the world's first circular runway... (O)

After all, the world is flat, as everyone knows.

chunhimlai · Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:10 am

Jerry123 wrote:
chunhimlai wrote:
SCQ83 wrote:
I don't think 240M PAX is enough for EXT in the next 20 or 30 years.

500 million passengers for Exeter Galaxy Central Spaceport would be a more accurate estimation.

The overflow pax will travel via BRS and CWL

Maybe CWL can have 6 flights a day to EXT! Lol

It should be hourly

SCQ83 · Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:12 am

MalevTU134 wrote:
chunhimlai wrote:
SCQ83 wrote:
I don't think 240M PAX is enough for EXT in the next 20 or 30 years.

500 million passengers for Exeter Galaxy Central Spaceport would be a more accurate estimation.

The overflow pax will travel via BRS and CWL

You MUST be trolling us...

It makes sense. I can see an hourly shuttle on BA EXT-JFK and EK DWC-EXT. All in A380 of course. For connections to other European airports, we could have FlyBe shuttling passengers every 15 to 30 minutes.

CWL-JFK, BRS-JFK, DWC-CWL and DWC-BRS could get smaller planes (B777) with the same frequency.

EXT, CWL and BRS would be connected by a triangular airside Hyperloop line (underwater in the Bristol Channel) in order to facilitate connections between the 3 airports.

FabDiva · Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:12 am

Well this exonian just spat drink all over her monitor!

Pe@rson · Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:33 am

I used to live in Brisbane and visited my parents in Devon yearly. A one-stop to EXT would have helped. ;-)

spinotter · Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:33 am

Fitlikemin wrote:
OK - the very fact that he crashes on in this thread despite the ridicule trying to justify his bedroom project tells me he is trolling.

Well, I hope that the poster is trolling! Otherwise we have a serious disconnect from reality here.

AAMDanny · Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:42 am

That's a massive cargo area for the x1 West Atlantic B737-400F that flies EXT-EMA-EXT every Mon-Fri night for Royal Mail!!

I love how you have used Paint to create a detailed airport map too... great work there!!

chunhimlai · Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:52 am

AAMDanny wrote:
That's a massive cargo area for the x1 West Atlantic B737-400F that flies EXT-EMA-EXT every Mon-Fri night for Royal Mail!!

I love how you have used Paint to create a detailed airport map too... great work there!!

No i use photoshop cs6 to create this jpg

pdp · Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:11 pm

Vectoring to final would be fun with three parallel runways! Same for managing departure traffic.

The west country has pretty awful transport links, no way it would ever be useful as a major hub location. Plus the undulations in the land would make it prohibitively expensive given the size of the site.

Bongodog1964 · Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:55 pm

What a brilliant idea, just as they build the new town of Cranbrook, you draw a runway through the middle of it !!!

As you are looking for somewhere that is under served with international routes at present and has space for 6 runways, how about one of the following:

Benbecula, West Freugh or Campbeltown

They are all as practical as your Exeter idea

chunhimlai · Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:11 pm

Bongodog1964 wrote:
What a brilliant idea, just as they build the new town of Cranbrook, you draw a runway through the middle of it !!!

As you are looking for somewhere that is under served with international routes at present and has space for 6 runways, how about one of the following:

Benbecula, West Freugh or Campbeltown

They are all as practical as your Exeter idea

But Flybe HQ is in Exeter

CrimsonNL · Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:44 pm

Well at least this time you got the IATA code of the airport correct for the proposal, keep it up!

Martijn

SCQ83 · Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:55 pm

chunhimlai wrote:
Bongodog1964 wrote:
What a brilliant idea, just as they build the new town of Cranbrook, you draw a runway through the middle of it !!!

As you are looking for somewhere that is under served with international routes at present and has space for 6 runways, how about one of the following:

Benbecula, West Freugh or Campbeltown

They are all as practical as your Exeter idea

But Flybe HQ is in Exeter

FlyBe should buy A380s to fly to Norwich, Newcastle and Belfast from EXT.

PatrickZ80 · Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:04 pm

chunhimlai wrote:
But Flybe HQ is in Exeter

Yes, so what? It's only a small airline, even with some predicted growth it's still going to be small. Current fleet counts 78 aircraft. Imagine all of those aircraft are based on Exeter and they do 3 return flights a day, that means 234 starts and 234 landings a day. Let's say the airport is open for 16 hours a day, that means on average every 2 minutes an aircraft lands or takes off. You don't need 6 runways for that, one runway or two at most would be sufficient.

Of course, not all Flybe aircraft are based in Exeter so that lowers the number of movements even more. Flybe may have it's headquarters in Exeter, but they only got a small base there.

WPvsMW · Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:45 pm

I think we all know the OP was a troll-job, a mashup in Paint, enjoyed by all.

Jerry123 · Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:48 pm

PatrickZ80 wrote:
chunhimlai wrote:
But Flybe HQ is in Exeter

Yes, so what? It's only a small airline, even with some predicted growth it's still going to be small. Current fleet counts 78 aircraft. Imagine all of those aircraft are based on Exeter and they do 3 return flights a day, that means 234 starts and 234 landings a day. Let's say the airport is open for 16 hours a day, that means on average every 2 minutes an aircraft lands or takes off. You don't need 6 runways for that, one runway or two at most would be sufficient.

Of course, not all Flybe aircraft are based in Exeter so that lowers the number of movements even more. Flybe may have it's headquarters in Exeter, but they only got a small base there.

I believe they roughly have 5 or 6 aircraft based at EXT. 1 E jet and 4 to 5 Q400s one of which operates the AMS flight out of LCY in a W pattern during the week.

STLflyer · Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:12 pm

Pe@rson wrote:
NEWSFLASH! BA will redeploy its 744s on an enhanced hourly service from EXT to JFK!

Forget 747s, they're going to bring back the Concorde on that route!

Pe@rson · Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:15 pm

NEWSFLASH! BA will redeploy its 744s on an enhanced hourly service from EXT to JFK!

Luxair747SP · Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:30 pm

Just booked a ticket on the first Ariana KBL-EXT flight. Was really hard to get tickets but thanks god they fly it now 5 times a day with their new 707s

chunhimlai · Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:39 pm

PatrickZ80 wrote:
chunhimlai wrote:
But Flybe HQ is in Exeter

Yes, so what? It's only a small airline, even with some predicted growth it's still going to be small. Current fleet counts 78 aircraft. Imagine all of those aircraft are based on Exeter and they do 3 return flights a day, that means 234 starts and 234 landings a day. Let's say the airport is open for 16 hours a day, that means on average every 2 minutes an aircraft lands or takes off. You don't need 6 runways for that, one runway or two at most would be sufficient.

Of course, not all Flybe aircraft are based in Exeter so that lowers the number of movements even more. Flybe may have it's headquarters in Exeter, but they only got a small base there.

If flybe double their fleet and it only score half of the total traffic (like BA in LHR), there would be 120 flight per hour average and at least 4 runways is needed

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