Air Caraibes

I may be wrong but, there are no airlines from the Caribbean that do long haul flights.

Could that change in the future?

I could see BW flying to Madrid or LGW. But that’s just me.

Geminijets101 wrote:

I may be wrong but, there are no airlines from the Caribbean that do long haul flights.

Could that change in the future?

I could see BW flying to Madrid or LGW. But that’s just me.

BW will not do long haul anymore. They tried LGW the second time around from 2012 to 2015 with 763's it failed miserably. MAD there is no market to/from T&T, that will never happen. Air Caraibes is based in Guadeloupe although is backed by a holding company based in France, that is involved in many industries.

Most Caribbean islands are already well served by US/Canadian and Euro carriers. Additionally, most local governments would prefer to provide subsidies and attract existing US/Canadian and Euro carriers rather than start their own airline and long-haul flights. If anything the next wave of Caribbean air service growth is coming from South America.

Geminijets101 wrote:

I may be wrong but, there are no airlines from the Caribbean that do long haul flights.

Could that change in the future?

I could see BW flying to Madrid or LGW. But that’s just me.

May I remind you of Cubana de Aviación? Definitely Caribbean and does long-haul flights.

MalevTU134 wrote:

May I remind you of Cubana de Aviación? Definitely Caribbean and does long-haul flights.

Technically Cuba isn't in the Caribbean. The Caribbean is everything south of the Dominican Republic and Jamaica, Cuba is north of that. It's not far away though.

As others have already pointed out, there's little need for a long haul airline based in the Caribbean as this area is already very well served by airlines from Europe and America. Anywhere you want to go, you can get there in one stop. On top of that, the Caribbean isn't one solid land mass. It's scattered along a whole lot of islands. This means that to get where you want to be in the Caribbean you'd have to transfer anyway. Then it doesn't make any difference if this transfer is inside the Caribbean or outside.

Flew BWIA once, many moons ago, BHX-POS. Worst level of service ever encountered in a premium cabin, as well as the worst customer service on the ground. Flew UA on the way back, SXM-JFK, and marvelled at the level of service compared to Britains Worst Investment Abroad - and that's the first and only time I've ever been positively surprised of the service level, in the premium cabin of a US carrier!

PS
Did a milk run POS-SXM via 5 small Caribbean islands (Barbados, Martinique, Dominica, Anquilla & St. Kitts). The travel agent was flabbergasted I didn't opt for the direct POS-SXM on a 737, preferring to island hop and change aircraft twice on a selection of Dash-8s. Little did she know I was, and am, a through-and-through aviation nerd

PatrickZ80 wrote:

MalevTU134 wrote:

May I remind you of Cubana de Aviación? Definitely Caribbean and does long-haul flights.

Technically Cuba isn't in the Caribbean. The Caribbean is everything south of the Dominican Republic and Jamaica, Cuba is north of that. It's not far away though.

As others have already pointed out, there's little need for a long haul airline based in the Caribbean as this area is already very well served by airlines from Europe and America. Anywhere you want to go, you can get there in one stop. On top of that, the Caribbean isn't one solid land mass. It's scattered along a whole lot of islands. This means that to get where you want to be in the Caribbean you'd have to transfer anyway. Then it doesn't make any difference if this transfer is inside the Caribbean or outside.

While I hate these discussions here on a.net on definitions of continents and all that, I have to call you on this one... Who says that "technically" Cuba isn't part of the Caribbean, and the mumbo-jumbo of being south of the Dominican Republic and Jamaica? The good people at Wikipedia seem to think otherwise:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean

And more importantly, the Cubans themselves refer to their country as being Caribbean. There even used to be a Cuban airline called Aerocaribe. When Hugo Chávez here in Venezuela decided it was a good idea to start donating huge quantities of Venezuelan oil to Cuba (and later other Caribbean countries as well), that scheme was called Petrocaribe. And so on and so forth...

MalevTU134 wrote:

PatrickZ80 wrote:

MalevTU134 wrote:

May I remind you of Cubana de Aviación? Definitely Caribbean and does long-haul flights.

Technically Cuba isn't in the Caribbean. The Caribbean is everything south of the Dominican Republic and Jamaica, Cuba is north of that. It's not far away though.

As others have already pointed out, there's little need for a long haul airline based in the Caribbean as this area is already very well served by airlines from Europe and America. Anywhere you want to go, you can get there in one stop. On top of that, the Caribbean isn't one solid land mass. It's scattered along a whole lot of islands. This means that to get where you want to be in the Caribbean you'd have to transfer anyway. Then it doesn't make any difference if this transfer is inside the Caribbean or outside.

While I hate these discussions here on a.net on definitions of continents and all that, I have to call you on this one... Who says that "technically" Cuba isn't part of the Caribbean, and the mumbo-jumbo of being south of the Dominican Republic and Jamaica? The good people at Wikipedia seem to think otherwise:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean

And more importantly, the Cubans themselves refer to their country as being Caribbean. There even used to be a Cuban airline called Aerocaribe. When Hugo Chávez here in Venezuela decided it was a good idea to start donating huge quantities of Venezuelan oil to Cuba (and later other Caribbean countries as well), that scheme was called Petrocaribe. And so on and so forth...

Cuba is apart of the Caribbean, not sure why people think otherwise unless people are taught differently?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Caribbean_islands
https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/tr ... 68346.html
https://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/carib.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba

Air Caraïbes operates up to 3 daily each PTP/FDF-ORY, up to 1 daily CAY-ORY, 3 weekly PAP-SDQ-ORY, 3 weekly PUJ-ORY, 1 weekly HAV-ORY, 1 weekly HAV-STU-ORY, 1 weekly, ZSA-SDQ-ORY and 1 weekly SXM-ORY

B777LRF wrote:

Flew BWIA once, many moons ago, BHX-POS. Worst level of service ever encountered in a premium cabin, as well as the worst customer service on the ground. Flew UA on the way back, SXM-JFK, and marvelled at the level of service compared to Britains Worst Investment Abroad - and that's the first and only time I've ever been positively surprised of the service level, in the premium cabin of a US carrier!

PS
Did a milk run POS-SXM via 5 small Caribbean islands (Barbados, Martinique, Dominica, Anquilla & St. Kitts). The travel agent was flabbergasted I didn't opt for the direct POS-SXM on a 737, preferring to island hop and change aircraft twice on a selection of Dash-8s. Little did she know I was, and am, a through-and-through aviation nerd

I guess you didn't know before hand what BWIA stood for... Better Walk If Able

B777LRF wrote:

Flew BWIA once, many moons ago, BHX-POS. Worst level of service ever encountered in a premium cabin, as well as the worst customer service on the ground. Flew UA on the way back, SXM-JFK, and marvelled at the level of service compared to Britains Worst Investment Abroad - and that's the first and only time I've ever been positively surprised of the service level, in the premium cabin of a US carrier!

PS
Did a milk run POS-SXM via 5 small Caribbean islands (Barbados, Martinique, Dominica, Anquilla & St. Kitts). The travel agent was flabbergasted I didn't opt for the direct POS-SXM on a 737, preferring to island hop and change aircraft twice on a selection of Dash-8s. Little did she know I was, and am, a through-and-through aviation nerd

I guess you didn't know before hand what BWIA stood for... Better Walk If Able