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Pilatus PC-24 lands on unpaved runway (Video)

Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:54 am

 
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Re: Pilatus PC-24 lands on unpaved runway (Video)

Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:01 am

This aircraft could be the answer to the needs of the mines in northern Canada? It will carry less than the 732 though.
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Re: Pilatus PC-24 lands on unpaved runway (Video)

Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:02 am

Awesome, thanks for sharing!

This airplane is gonna be the perfect plane for many air ambulances, outback and desert flying strips, as well as every drug lord and weapon smuggler in the world!
 
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Re: Pilatus PC-24 lands on unpaved runway (Video)

Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:11 am

I have to say this: PC-24 is absolutely THE MOST BEAUTIFUL business jet out there.
If I were a multibillionaire, I'd buy one without a second of hesitation.

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Re: Pilatus PC-24 lands on unpaved runway (Video)

Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:32 am

I don't see any reverse thrust on the dirt strip landings... which make sense, and means the brakes are designed to dissipate all the kinetic and thermal energy. Swiss!!
 
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Re: Pilatus PC-24 lands on unpaved runway (Video)

Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:33 am

Pilatus are masters at this capability. I watched in suburban Melbourne Vic Aust many years ago the STOL capability of the "porter". (it landed on what I would call a hockey field, turned around and took of again). My memory is now vague but I believe there were some porters in the Defence Force. In the words of some, this new ac is a "game changer".
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Re: Pilatus PC-24 lands on unpaved runway (Video)

Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:05 am

Stunning video!

TN486 wrote:
Pilatus are masters at this capability.


Porter / Turbo Porter - became the proverbial mountain aircraft

PC-7, -9 and -21 - became an air force trainer around the world, and the PC-7 was modified into the T-6 Texan II, for example

And now this... it even has a cargo door that accepts standard pallets.


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Re: Pilatus PC-24 lands on unpaved runway (Video)

Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:05 am

It will be very interesting to watch the life of this plane. Pilatus took what they were good at, looked for a niche that was unserved, and developed a plane aimed right at that market. And importantly appear to be delivering on time and budget.

I can see for those sorts of niche use cases the PC-24 is essentially the only game in town. Payload, speed, range, go anywhere. Perfect match of stuff.
 
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Re: Pilatus PC-24 lands on unpaved runway (Video)

Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:26 am

I noticed quite the time delay from deployment of the tiny outboard spoilers to the big lift dumpers.
Anyone familiar with the logic? MLG WOW + x seconds? NLG WOW? Combo?
 
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Re: Pilatus PC-24 lands on unpaved runway (Video)

Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:37 am

Cool aircraft, interesting to see Pilatus went with double wheels on the main gear but a single wheel on the nose

I would think that single wheel could be an issue on really soft / wet ground

Looking at the video you can see they’re running a very low pressure on that nose wheel tire


Great it can operate into unimproved fields I just wonder how the owners will tolerate the inevitable rough wear and tear on their new multi million dollar jet
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Re: Pilatus PC-24 lands on unpaved runway (Video)

Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:56 pm

I'm excited for this as it could be a integral part of a project I am planning
 
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Re: Pilatus PC-24 lands on unpaved runway (Video)

Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:01 pm

BubbaYugga wrote:
I noticed quite the time delay from deployment of the tiny outboard spoilers to the big lift dumpers.
Anyone familiar with the logic? MLG WOW + x seconds? NLG WOW? Combo?


Could it be manually deployed, at least in this case?
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Re: Pilatus PC-24 lands on unpaved runway (Video)

Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:23 pm

ap305 wrote:
This aircraft could be the answer to the needs of the mines in northern Canada? It will carry less than the 732 though.


A 146-100 / -200 or the subsequent Avro RJ models would be much better suited and is unpaved-field certificated. And was picked by some airlines for that reason, such as TABA of Brazil. There was a kit that included mesh protection for the beacons and debris deflectors aft of the main gear. Low-pressure tyres fitted into the standard bays.

Or an An-148 if they wanted something new from the factory.

In terms of older jets, the Yak-40 and F.28 were also unpaved-capable; the latter did its testing in Iceland. As were the Tu-124 / 134 and believe it or not 154. And HS.125 business jet, certainly up to and including the -700.

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Re: Pilatus PC-24 lands on unpaved runway (Video)

Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:42 pm

BubbaYugga wrote:
I noticed quite the time delay from deployment of the tiny outboard spoilers to the big lift dumpers.
Anyone familiar with the logic? MLG WOW + x seconds? NLG WOW? Combo?

I noticed the same thing and in other videos, it comes out much quicker which is leading me to thick these are being manually deployed here. In two other videos I watched, the main spoilers deployed within a second or two of the smaller spoilers.
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Re: Pilatus PC-24 lands on unpaved runway (Video)

Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:32 am

Activating spoilers after touchdown automatically through a weight on wheels switch works well on a normal runway


Bit challenging in this application with the rough field compressing and extending the oleos very rapidly


In the short time it takes to satisfy the logic to extend the spoilers the oleo can easily have re-extended to the point where inadequate weight is detected to activate them


Probably explains why manual activation was needed
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Re: Pilatus PC-24 lands on unpaved runway (Video)

Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:01 am

From MaxQ in Reply 10:
Great it can operate into unimproved fields I just wonder how the owners will tolerate the inevitable rough wear and tear on their new multi million dollar jet

I doubt it will worry many of them, they seem to be mostly"remote area" operators. For example Australia's RFDS has ordered 4 for use in WA, given the immense size and underdevelopment of the state it will improve both response & evacuation times. They also operate around 30 PC-12's.

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Re: Pilatus PC-24 lands on unpaved runway (Video)

Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:25 am

Another interesting detail about the performance of the PC-24:
In this moment a PC-24 on a test flight is flying at 45000 thousand feet altitude. Not sure how normal this is for this kind of aircraft:
https://www.flightradar24.com/HBVSA/1d18ab9e
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Re: Pilatus PC-24 lands on unpaved runway (Video)

Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:49 am

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rheinwaldner wrote:
Another interesting detail about the performance of the PC-24:
In this moment a PC-24 on a test flight is flying at 45000 thousand feet altitude. Not sure how normal this is for this kind of aircraft:
https://www.flightradar24.com/HBVSA/1d18ab9e


It is quite normal for business jets to fly above the commercial airliners.

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