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Flighty
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Re: AA S18 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:19 pm

Thank you FSDan. Been a long time since I had easy access to this type of info.

PHL looks markedly down in operations (good for traffic) with same seat count = big $ savings. Not necessarily a bad sign.

DCA so premium heavy with the E75. Amazing it is clearly a hub on par with PHX by departure count.

ORD impressively large compared with PHL. Suggests it is healthier than I believed.

LGA honestly looks weak. Not only is LGA a “short hop market” I see no indication of profitability or vibrancy. Looks indistinguishable from slot squatting.
 
dfdubflyer
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Re: AA S18 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:51 pm

We’re what - five-ish years on now from the merger and the Airways hubs that many of predicted would be slashed appear to be doing fine overall. Volume doesn’t necessarily tell us about yield but the three smallest hubs are LAA.
 
AAtakeMeAway
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Re: AA S18 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:03 pm

No 767's at DFW... this is truly a momentous occasion.
 
ckfred
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Re: AA S18 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:26 pm

What surprises me about the ORD operation are:

The number of CR2s and CR7s vs. the number of E175s. Considering how the Embrear is much, much better for passengers than the Canadairs, I thought there would be more of them.

How few A319s out of ORD. AA got caught with the problem of nothing between the CR7 and the MD-80, when it retired the F100s. The A319s (Legacy AA and Legacy US) seemed to be the right aircraft for a route that could fill a couple of MD-80s or 738s and 3 or 4 F100s, back in the 1990s.
 
MIflyer12
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Re: AA S18 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:08 pm

Flighty wrote:
DCA so premium heavy with the E75. Amazing it is clearly a hub on par with PHX by departure count.


DCA has a lot of E75s but that doesn't make it premium heavy. There are also 72 flights aboard E145/CR2. Delta at LGA has just 20 single-class flights in its total count of 275, and only 14 of 232 at JFK.

Compare avg gauge at DCA vs. PHX. Or ASMs.
 
washingtonflyer
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Re: AA S18 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:45 pm

Cant compare DCA and PHX in any meaningful way. Within 250 miles of PHX you have 8,000,000 people - concentrated in a well defined set of three centers (maybe 4) - TUS, LAS and east side of SAN and LAX (and PHX obviously).

Within 250 miles of DCA, you have about 55,000,000 people.

I won't even get into the issue of slot constraints...
 
CIDFlyer
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Re: AA S18 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:41 am

whats amazing to me is that CLT is larger than any hub UA has...specifically UA at ORD. Truly an amazingly run hub.
 
FSDan
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Re: AA S18 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:46 pm

CIDFlyer wrote:
whats amazing to me is that CLT is larger than any hub UA has...specifically UA at ORD. Truly an amazingly run hub.


Just not the past few days! :duck:
 
yonikasz
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Re: AA S18 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:49 pm

CIDFlyer wrote:
whats amazing to me is that CLT is larger than any hub UA has...specifically UA at ORD. Truly an amazingly run hub.


I am suprised that only AA offers CLT-SEA. DL or AS do not operate it.
 
BTRfan
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Re: AA S18 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:23 pm

A big hole in AA PHX network is bringing back PHX-MSY nonstop
 
alasizon
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Re: AA S18 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:41 pm

BTRfan wrote:
A big hole in AA PHX network is bringing back PHX-MSY nonstop


While it seems like a big hole, its not as big as one would think. The number of people that are not willing to go PHX-DFW-MSY that would actually pay a higher yield for N/S and aren't already flying WN isn't that many. It may work on a CR9 but I think there are bigger intra-Mountain flights that will come first (think Montana, Wyoming, more Idaho/Oregon).
 
CIDFlyer
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Re: AA S18 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:29 am

FSDan wrote:
CIDFlyer wrote:
whats amazing to me is that CLT is larger than any hub UA has...specifically UA at ORD. Truly an amazingly run hub.


Just not the past few days! :duck:



haha well thats true :)
 
Vctony
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Re: AA S18 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:57 am

BTRfan wrote:
A big hole in AA PHX network is bringing back PHX-MSY nonstop


I still think BNA and RDU are their biggest holes from PHX followed by CLE, CVG, and MSY.

It’s amazing AA can fly RDU-LHR but can’t fly PHX-RDU.

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