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SCQ83 wrote:With that plane they are not going to fly to any Muslim country anyway. Not even Morocco. Maybe they can reach Brussels though.
SCQ83 wrote:Which could be their first scheduled destinations? I could see Gran Canaria, Ibiza, Mykonos and Tel Aviv being successful for them.
Metjetceo wrote:He has been fundraising for quite a while. I remember seeing his promo video over a year ago. The plan is go go J31 to 737 to larger narrowbodies...if I am not mistaken. His original videos did not use the term Sharia, it was spun as an anti no frills airline (but not full service). Essentially a competitor on key routes to BA...I think It has been a long time since I saw the first video.
KICT wrote:Hopefully their AOC is denied.
OGLOBAL wrote:when we people understand that sharia airline sharia law doesn't exist . sharia means following the five elements of islam : fasting praying giving money to the poor pilgrim and FOLLOWING the law of the land you are at .
spinotter wrote:KICT wrote:Hopefully their AOC is denied.
No, listen. We have to be tolerant of other beliefs and ways of living, as long as they do the same with us. And most Muslims do that. I lived in Iran for two years and I am going to tell you straight out that the Iranians are the kindest, most hospitable people on earth. Ditto for all Middle Easterners, although I know the other countries less. We have to stop fighting and disrespecting each other. Their culture and pride was savaged by the Western colonial powers and Israel. So they cling to their religion. Over time we can change that relationship, I hope. So a Sharia airline for people who observe Sharia, champagne and paté de foie gras on Air France, and no perks whatsoever on Spirit. Why not?
vhqpa wrote:"Modestly dressed flight attendants"
Does the Jetstream J31/J32 even have a provision for a flight attendant. I can't remember any on my J32 flights.
spinotter wrote:KICT wrote:Hopefully their AOC is denied.
No, listen. We have to be tolerant of other beliefs and ways of living, as long as they do the same with us. And most Muslims do that. I lived in Iran for two years and I am going to tell you straight out that the Iranians are the kindest, most hospitable people on earth. Ditto for all Middle Easterners, although I know the other countries less. We have to stop fighting and disrespecting each other. Their culture and pride was savaged by the Western colonial powers and Israel. So they cling to their religion. Over time we can change that relationship, I hope. So a Sharia airline for people who observe Sharia, champagne and paté de foie gras on Air France, and no perks whatsoever on Spirit. Why not?
spinotter wrote:KICT wrote:Hopefully their AOC is denied.
No, listen. We have to be tolerant of other beliefs and ways of living, as long as they do the same with us. And most Muslims do that. I lived in Iran for two years and I am going to tell you straight out that the Iranians are the kindest, most hospitable people on earth. Ditto for all Middle Easterners, although I know the other countries less. We have to stop fighting and disrespecting each other. Their culture and pride was savaged by the Western colonial powers and Israel. So they cling to their religion. Over time we can change that relationship, I hope. So a Sharia airline for people who observe Sharia, champagne and paté de foie gras on Air France, and no perks whatsoever on Spirit. Why not?
SCQ83 wrote:With that plane they are not going to fly to any Muslim country anyway. Not even Morocco. Maybe they can reach Brussels though.
KICT wrote:Hopefully their AOC is denied.
SCQ83 wrote:With that plane they are not going to fly to any Muslim country anyway. Not even Morocco. Maybe they can reach Brussels though.
Which could be their first scheduled destinations? I could see Gran Canaria, Ibiza, Mykonos and Tel Aviv being successful for them.
spinotter wrote:spinotter wrote:KICT wrote:Hopefully their AOC is denied.
No, listen. We have to be tolerant of other beliefs and ways of living, as long as they do the same with us. And most Muslims do that. I lived in Iran for two years and I am going to tell you straight out that the Iranians are the kindest, most hospitable people on earth. Ditto for all Middle Easterners, although I know the other countries less. We have to stop fighting and disrespecting each other. Their culture and pride was savaged by the Western colonial powers and Israel. So they cling to their religion. Over time we can change that relationship, I hope. So a Sharia airline for people who observe Sharia, champagne and paté de foie gras on Air France, and no perks whatsoever on Spirit. Why not?
I just skimmed the article and I sincerely hope that Kazi is successful. He is from Bangladesh, not Saudi Arabia. He cleaned toilets at LCY and that's how he got into aviation. He says that he was so serious about getting the toilet-cleaning job that he showed up in a suit for his interview. I will fly his airline, I kid you not.
Arion640 wrote:spinotter wrote:spinotter wrote:
No, listen. We have to be tolerant of other beliefs and ways of living, as long as they do the same with us. And most Muslims do that. I lived in Iran for two years and I am going to tell you straight out that the Iranians are the kindest, most hospitable people on earth. Ditto for all Middle Easterners, although I know the other countries less. We have to stop fighting and disrespecting each other. Their culture and pride was savaged by the Western colonial powers and Israel. So they cling to their religion. Over time we can change that relationship, I hope. So a Sharia airline for people who observe Sharia, champagne and paté de foie gras on Air France, and no perks whatsoever on Spirit. Why not?
I just skimmed the article and I sincerely hope that Kazi is successful. He is from Bangladesh, not Saudi Arabia. He cleaned toilets at LCY and that's how he got into aviation. He says that he was so serious about getting the toilet-cleaning job that he showed up in a suit for his interview. I will fly his airline, I kid you not.
I also hope Kazi is succesful. But what he shouldn't be doing is applying a certain religion to his Airline. There's enough division in the West as it is without making others feel unwelcome when it comes to Air Transport. How would a Jewish person feel about seeing this let alone flying with his airline?
From a Business point of view he's also making a huge mistake by promoting this as a Muslim Airline. I've shared this article with 3 people this evening (one who does a lot of flying around) and they have all said they wouldn't use it as they would feel unwelcome onboard, it should be a religion/gender/race neutral way of travelling.
It's hard enough to start an airline without applying restrictions to your market, you need every passenger you can get.
pdt2f wrote:spinotter wrote:KICT wrote:Hopefully their AOC is denied.
No, listen. We have to be tolerant of other beliefs and ways of living, as long as they do the same with us. And most Muslims do that. I lived in Iran for two years and I am going to tell you straight out that the Iranians are the kindest, most hospitable people on earth. Ditto for all Middle Easterners, although I know the other countries less. We have to stop fighting and disrespecting each other. Their culture and pride was savaged by the Western colonial powers and Israel. So they cling to their religion. Over time we can change that relationship, I hope. So a Sharia airline for people who observe Sharia, champagne and paté de foie gras on Air France, and no perks whatsoever on Spirit. Why not?
The Middle East was more secular, culturally and politically, 30 years ago. The whole “western colonial powers did it to us” is nonsense,.
LH658 wrote:Why call it Sharia Airline, just don't serve booze, pork etc, so non Muslim would buy ticket without knowing until he on board. Telling people you are sharia airline is gunna drive Non Muslim probably away.
PlanesNTrains wrote:Arion640 wrote:spinotter wrote:
I just skimmed the article and I sincerely hope that Kazi is successful. He is from Bangladesh, not Saudi Arabia. He cleaned toilets at LCY and that's how he got into aviation. He says that he was so serious about getting the toilet-cleaning job that he showed up in a suit for his interview. I will fly his airline, I kid you not.
I also hope Kazi is succesful. But what he shouldn't be doing is applying a certain religion to his Airline. There's enough division in the West as it is without making others feel unwelcome when it comes to Air Transport. How would a Jewish person feel about seeing this let alone flying with his airline?
From a Business point of view he's also making a huge mistake by promoting this as a Muslim Airline. I've shared this article with 3 people this evening (one who does a lot of flying around) and they have all said they wouldn't use it as they would feel unwelcome onboard, it should be a religion/gender/race neutral way of travelling.
It's hard enough to start an airline without applying restrictions to your market, you need every passenger you can get.
While I'm sure there would be many people who would shun the airline for appealing to a Muslim "lifestyle", there are obviously also many people who would seek it out precisely because it matches their lifestyle. I don't get the pushback? He's doing exactly what anyone starting a business would do - finding a niche and exploiting it.
spinotter wrote:KICT wrote:Hopefully their AOC is denied.
No, listen. We have to be tolerant of other beliefs and ways of living, as long as they do the same with us. And most Muslims do that. I lived in Iran for two years and I am going to tell you straight out that the Iranians are the kindest, most hospitable people on earth. Ditto for all Middle Easterners, although I know the other countries less. We have to stop fighting and disrespecting each other. Their culture and pride was savaged by the Western colonial powers and Israel. So they cling to their religion. Over time we can change that relationship, I hope. So a Sharia airline for people who observe Sharia, champagne and paté de foie gras on Air France, and no perks whatsoever on Spirit. Why not?
chonetsao wrote:I am going to launch a crowd funding for a local British airline to serve gin and pork pot in the cabin and have a lavatory large enough for people to join Mile High club. Ah maybe will learn from the Germans to dedicate an area for all natural flying experience too (means areas for nudist). I think I am going to call it the SSS airlines. SSS stands for Sun Sand and Sin. Oh well, I need to have someone to do some PR for me and brand myself a Sinned Richard Branson. Any takers here?
embraer420 wrote:spinotter wrote:KICT wrote:Hopefully their AOC is denied.
No, listen. We have to be tolerant of other beliefs and ways of living, as long as they do the same with us. And most Muslims do that. I lived in Iran for two years and I am going to tell you straight out that the Iranians are the kindest, most hospitable people on earth. Ditto for all Middle Easterners, although I know the other countries less. We have to stop fighting and disrespecting each other. Their culture and pride was savaged by the Western colonial powers and Israel. So they cling to their religion. Over time we can change that relationship, I hope. So a Sharia airline for people who observe Sharia, champagne and paté de foie gras on Air France, and no perks whatsoever on Spirit. Why not?
Well,I don't think many British people would want to fly on an airline that forces them to stick to strict Islamic dress codes. Frankly it's rather scary that this is happening, and if people in Britain launched a Christian airline they would probably be denied an AOC and be branded as right wing or conservative. Not to mention the fact that there's no alcohol onboard(well they couldn't fit any in that plane anyway )and the food is all halal. And they're flying from Ashford to Waterford? That route would fail even if the airline was normal. I know people down in Waterford who wouldn't fly VLM because they think they're "too weird". I wonder how they'll feel about this crowd!
LH658 wrote:Why call it Sharia Airline, just don't serve booze, pork etc, so non Muslim would buy ticket without knowing until he on board. Telling people you are sharia airline is gunna drive Non Muslim probably away.
SCQ83 wrote:With that plane they are not going to fly to any Muslim country anyway. Not even Morocco. Maybe they can reach Brussels though.
Which could be their first scheduled destinations? I could see Gran Canaria, Ibiza, Mykonos and Tel Aviv being successful for them.
BritTraveller wrote:I just don't get the point, it's not as if Muslims aren't able to fly to on conventional airlines. If you're flying BA or VS there will be a Halal meal and you just don't purchase alcohol. Segregation isn't a way forward.
musman9853 wrote:This. I'm Muslim and failing to see the point of this airline. Just ask for water when the FA asks what you want to drink. And a lot of airlines have halal/veggie meals.
lightsaber wrote:They say they won't enforce Sharia, they offer it.