TAP A339neo to visit Brazil and MIA for airport certification

airbazar · Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:14 pm

http://www.aeroin.net/airbus-a330neo-da ... ma-semana/
It also says: The airplane will fly to MIA only on the 23rd which will allow it to be certified at other Brazilian airports between the 21st and 23rd.

gatibosgru · Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:35 pm

Hope to see the NEO make it to BOS eventually!

Hopefully GIG/GRU/MIA spotters get some good shots.

reffado · Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:02 pm

Anyone have the arrival times for MIA? I was able to find the arrival at LIS on 06/24, at 1915Z. But no information on the inbound flight yet. I hope the weather contributes!

NZ321 · Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:20 pm

This is one sexy looking aircraft, please someone take photos.....

Miami · Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:35 pm

NZ321 wrote:
This is one sexy looking aircraft, please someone take photos.....

The guys over at South Florida Aviation on Facebook will have you covered!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1589537 ... ?ref=br_tf

whywhyzee · Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:07 pm

I Imagine the A339s will take over most of the A333 routes, which are pretty spread out across the network, given that the A333's leave the fleet this winter.

Dutchy · Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:09 pm

airbazar wrote:
http://www.aeroin.net/airbus-a330neo-da-tap-portugal-vem-ao-brasil-na-proxima-semana/
It also says: The airplane will fly to MIA only on the 23rd which will allow it to be certified at other Brazilian airports between the 21st and 23rd.

Pardon for the layman's question, what is this certification of the A330NEO for a specific airport? The A330NEO is basically an A330CEO, the same footprint, the same placing of the undercarriage, the same weights(?).

Jayafe · Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:30 pm

On time for Farnborough orders maybe? :idea:

rbrunner · Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:38 pm

1st TAP neo about to land in LIS

mjoelnir · Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:36 pm

Dutchy wrote:
airbazar wrote:
http://www.aeroin.net/airbus-a330neo-da-tap-portugal-vem-ao-brasil-na-proxima-semana/
It also says: The airplane will fly to MIA only on the 23rd which will allow it to be certified at other Brazilian airports between the 21st and 23rd.

Pardon for the layman's question, what is this certification of the A330NEO for a specific airport? The A330NEO is basically an A330CEO, the same footprint, the same placing of the undercarriage, the same weights(?).

It is not that basic. The A330neo has more wingspan because of new sharklets. It has other aerodynamic enhancements. It has new engines giving I assume a different thrust profile and the new engines make the empty frame heavier. I assume the A330neo will behave differently in landings and take offs. Perhaps it is possible to tweak the FBW, so that it seems to behave similar as the ceo, but for that they will need to collect data.

Otherwise route proving is always a part of certification. It makes sense to do this route proving on flights that the first few frames will be used for.

BobMUC · Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:44 pm

It's part of the route proving tour for the A330neo:

Airbus A330neo en route to function and reliability tests

Flying over European Airbus sites and visiting 15 cities worldwide to test aircraft readiness for airline operations
http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-re ... tests.html

https://airbus-h.assetsadobe2.com/is/im ... 1&qlt=85,0

NeBaNi · Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:04 am

BobMUC wrote:
It's part of the route proving tour for the A330neo:

Airbus A330neo en route to function and reliability tests

Flying over European Airbus sites and visiting 15 cities worldwide to test aircraft readiness for airline operations
http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-re ... tests.html

https://airbus-h.assetsadobe2.com/is/im ... 1&qlt=85,0

The stop in New Delhi caught my eye. It's almost like Airbus has an order finalized from a certain Indian airline (or two!)

santos · Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:41 am

TP CEO hinted last night that TP is looking to start 8 new routes in 2019 to TLV, DUB, SFO, ORD and IAD- the other 3 he didn’t mention. http://www.presstur.com/empresas---nego ... neves-ceo/

BobMUC · Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:42 pm

They are on their way from LIS to GIG as AIB339:
https://www.flightradar24.com/AIB339/1cd72d74

stylo777 · Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:16 pm

BobMUC wrote:
They are on their way from LIS to GIG as AIB339:
https://www.flightradar24.com/AIB339/1cd72d74

I was lucky enough to see it taxiing to the active runway while we were just landing. Not lucky though keeping my camera in the bag... beautiful looking plane, great wingspan and bad eyes. All the best with the route proofing!

amirs · Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:15 pm

Any interior pics yet ?
I want to see how the CL6710 seat in J class looks compared to in the new LY 787

rbrunner · Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:20 pm

Yes, just follow this link:
http://www.presstur.com/empresas---nego ... neves-ceo/

rbrunner · Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:35 am

She was to fly LIS - GIG yesterday, by diverted to GRU. Any idea why?

BobMUC · Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:25 pm

rbrunner wrote:
She was to fly LIS - GIG yesterday, by diverted to GRU. Any idea why?

Wrong coding:

https://twitter.com/FandaAviation/statu ... 6485046273
"The @Airbus #A330neoTour has completed its third transatlantic leg, Lisbon to São Paulo. More South American flights are next. #avgeek
View playback of this leg on @flightradar24 (Rio is incorrectly stated as destination): https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... m#1cda81bc …"

rbrunner · Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:29 pm

OK. Thanks a lot.

rjholl773 · Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:59 pm

According to the Airbus press release (http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-re ... tests.html), they have Chicago listed as a stop as well, but I could not find any dates. Anyone have any idea when she's supposed to land in Chicago? I've never seen a TAP aircraft in Chicago; will be quite the treat!

Thanks!

rbrunner · Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:01 pm

She took off from GRU a few minutes ago. It doesn't say where she is going. Possibly MIA...

reffado · Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:14 pm

rbrunner wrote:
She took off from GRU a few minutes ago. It doesn't say where she is going. Possibly MIA...

REC I believe. Then on to MIA during the weekend (tomorrow?).

StTim · Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:51 pm

Here are the stops

https://airbus-h.assetsadobe2.com/is/im ... =constrain

Miami · Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:34 pm

Going to MIA from REC tonight with a ETA at 11:30pm EST.

ojjunior · Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:55 pm

TAP on tour to Asia??
Or just the model, not TP one?

N604TW · Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:07 pm

She's at REC now!

BobMUC · Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:38 pm

ojjunior wrote:
TAP on tour to Asia??
Or just the model, not TP one?

Yes and no! I think Airbus is flying the first customer A330-900 in TAP colors on the tour. The plane will be delivered to TAP later this summer.

rbrunner · Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:57 pm

BobMUC wrote:
ojjunior wrote:
TAP on tour to Asia??
Or just the model, not TP one?

Yes and no! I think Airbus is flying the first customer A330-900 in TAP colors on the tour. The plane will be delivered to TAP later this summer.

Absolutely right. Although, according to TAP's CEO, it's going to be November/December until she is delivered to TAP.

flee · Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:27 am

ojjunior wrote:
TAP on tour to Asia??
Or just the model, not TP one?

Airbus have two prototypes of the A339 flying on test - the TAP aircraft, F-WWKM, is the first production aircraft and has a fully fitted passenger cabin. That is one of the reasons why it is used for the route proving flights - the prototypes are just bare aircraft with test instrumentation and don't have a full cabin.

rbrunner · Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:11 pm

Apart from that, these route proving flights carry lots of invited passengers like aviation journalists, etc.

jcwr56 · Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:30 pm

rjholl773 wrote:
According to the Airbus press release (http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-re ... tests.html), they have Chicago listed as a stop as well, but I could not find any dates. Anyone have any idea when she's supposed to land in Chicago? I've never seen a TAP aircraft in Chicago; will be quite the treat!

Thanks!

Arriving July 5th at 1400 and then departing July 6th at 0900.

lightsaber · Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:55 pm

NeBaNi wrote:
BobMUC wrote:
It's part of the route proving tour for the A330neo:

Airbus A330neo en route to function and reliability tests

Flying over European Airbus sites and visiting 15 cities worldwide to test aircraft readiness for airline operations
http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-re ... tests.html

https://airbus-h.assetsadobe2.com/is/im ... 1&qlt=85,0

The stop in New Delhi caught my eye. It's almost like Airbus has an order finalized from a certain Indian airline (or two!)

If there was a sale, you would have seen 3 to 5 Indian cities. I suspect there was a sales call.

Lightsaber

rbrunner · Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:07 am

Next flight should be MIA - LIS

overcast · Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:10 am

Think it landed in TLS yesterday morning.

airbazar · Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:50 pm

USA Today has an article on its visit to MIA, with pictures.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/f ... 728851002/

flee · Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:09 pm

It is on the way to WMKK/KUL for the South East Asian leg now!
https://www.flightradar24.com/AIB339/

rbrunner · Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:24 pm

She left Manila. Next destination Jakarta or Mauritius?

rbrunner · Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:00 pm

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