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Re: 737 Max 9 North America inaugural service

Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:53 pm

strfyr51 wrote:
The assumed temp is +50 deg F higher than the actual OAT. that's pretty impressive . It's going to make for a damn long runway takeoff roll though.
It saves on engine wear but I'd rather have runway behind me and sky below me in more of a hurry than that. I was never a fan of Max Gross takeoffs even when I worked as a flight engineer.



It scared you to takeoff at MTOW?
 
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Re: 737 Max 9 innagural service

Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:27 pm

strfyr51 wrote:
BENAir01 wrote:
Yeah, Thai Lion Air has already been operating the 7M9.

I thought the header said North American inaugural service?


"North America" was edited into the topic by the mods after the OP posted.
 
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Re: 737 Max 9 North America inaugural service

Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:05 pm

Ok so at least this forum explains why the takeoff roll was nearly a minute long... I was surprised by how longer than average it was, thinking we were gonna run out of runway at one point. But this left me wondering, how will this aircraft deal with high altitude takeoffs. Otherwise the rotation was smooth, could barely feel it, as my seat mate said "We took off already?", she had headphones on the entire time.
 
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Re: 737 Max 9 North America inaugural service

Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:26 pm

Trip reports about the UA MAX 9 are starting to appear on youtube. Looks like the F and Y seats are slimline versions without PTVs, which should save about 400kg in weight. Noticed a lovely slimline lav behind row 5AB too.

Do UA have the aft flat pressure bulhead on the 900ER and MAX 9 or did they drop it? It's heavier than the rounded pressure bulkhead.
 
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Re: 737 Max 9 North America inaugural service

Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:12 pm

Need to know what you are reading and how those numbers are derived to make that judgement about it being a “dog”

THAT^^^^^^ Right there.
 
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Re: 737 Max 9 North America inaugural service

Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:30 pm

First diversion; UA1788 MCOIAH diverted to AEX due weather. Ship 7501 arrived IAH 2+ hours tardy. Interesting...
 
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Re: 737 Max 9 North America inaugural service

Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:13 am

axiom wrote:
flyingclrs727 wrote:
Newbiepilot wrote:
I am glad to see the airplane entering service. There was a lot of doubt, especially from one member, about whether or not The 737-9 would ever be built let alone operated by United. In a number of threads there was speculation that the 737-9 order would be canceled in favor of A321neos.

It is interesting that United is putting the airplane on IAH-ANC right away. Is the route being relaunched because of the range of the MAX? That would have been a struggle for a 737-900ER and the 757s are configured for premium routes.


I'm not shocked at all. Just as the 787 was used for long haul expansion rather than replacement of 767's, the 737-9 MAX is being put on the longest domestic routes first. This puts the most fuel efficient aircraft on the routes that benefit most from the improved fuel efficiency.


It makes sense, indeed. I feel for the good people of ANC, however. They've been MAX'd in mass. Does UA use the same terrible toilet configuration that AA uses?

Love to see this classic design get new life. Do not love the prospect of how tight the interiors have become.


I don’t believe the use the AA lav. I haven’t counted myself, but per my friend on the flight (a UA elite and avgeek so he studies these things), the Max 9 actually seats 3 fewer total pax than the -900, and has an extra row of Y+. I haven’t double checked him but he’s usually right about these things.
 
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Re: 737 Max 9 North America inaugural service

Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:21 am

tjh8402 wrote:
axiom wrote:
flyingclrs727 wrote:

I'm not shocked at all. Just as the 787 was used for long haul expansion rather than replacement of 767's, the 737-9 MAX is being put on the longest domestic routes first. This puts the most fuel efficient aircraft on the routes that benefit most from the improved fuel efficiency.


It makes sense, indeed. I feel for the good people of ANC, however. They've been MAX'd in mass. Does UA use the same terrible toilet configuration that AA uses?

Love to see this classic design get new life. Do not love the prospect of how tight the interiors have become.


I don’t believe the use the AA lav. I haven’t counted myself, but per my friend on the flight (a UA elite and avgeek so he studies these things), the Max 9 actually seats 3 fewer total pax than the -900, and has an extra row of Y+. I haven’t double checked him but he’s usually right about these things.


Seats exactly the same. The removed a row of Y and added Y+.
 
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Re: 737 Max 9 North America inaugural service

Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:58 am

UA is AA. AA is UA. No seatback TV on domestic going forward. And while off-the-cuff it's easy to blame America West Kirby, the UA decisions on no TV were made before he arrived (see the 739ER deliveries following the CO orders).

CRJ900 wrote:
Trip reports about the UA MAX 9 are starting to appear on youtube. Looks like the F and Y seats are slimline versions without PTVs, which should save about 400kg in weight. Noticed a lovely slimline lav behind row 5AB too.

Do UA have the aft flat pressure bulhead on the 900ER and MAX 9 or did they drop it? It's heavier than the rounded pressure bulkhead.
 
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Re: 737 Max 9 North America inaugural service

Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:58 am

United's lavs are ok... they are not as tight as the ones on American but they are still tight. The main problem with them is the sink. I tried washing my hands in it and not only could I only fit one hand, I ended up splashing water everywhere, and whats funny was, I wasn't the only one with this problem....
 
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Re: 737 Max 9 North America inaugural service

Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:58 am

cledaybuck wrote:
77H wrote:
hoya wrote:

UA will operate the MAX9 out of OGG later this year, so runway performance must be sufficient if it can take off a 7000ft runway and make it to LAX.


I’ve seen that on the fleet utilization plan. Had to double take when I first saw it. Even more surprising is that OGG is scheduled to see the M9 before KOA which has a longer runway.

I watched a video of the 7M9 inaugural take off roll. It used most of the runway out of IAH. Hopefully UA sends the plane on proving runs before they commit it to OGG lest they find themselves blocking seats to leave the pavement.

OGG’s strong tradewinds should aid the plane in getting off the runway but what happens when winds are calm?

77H
I don't think anyone is anxious to add extra capacity to KOA right now.



The 739 and 7M9 have the exact same capacity. Beyond that, KOA is clear across the island from the volcano. I just made the drive today. Took me about 5 hours to drive from KOA to the Puna District. I’m sending this from about 4 miles from the eruption. Not sure why people are freaking out and canceling trips.

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Re: 737 Max 9 innagural service

Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:00 am

FlyHossD wrote:
77H wrote:
FlyHossD wrote:
I suspect that the -9Max's will be much the same - lots of carping by people who don't fly them.


There are several notable airports they can’t use the 739 to that could benefit from the added capacity the plane offers. OGG/LIH/SNA immediately come to mind.

77H


hoya wrote:
UA will operate the MAX9 out of OGG later this year, so runway performance must be sufficient if it can take off a 7000ft runway and make it to LAX.


You do understand there is a difference between the 739 and 7M9 correct?

Re-read the post you quoted. I specifically said the 739.

77H
 
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Re: 737 Max 9 North America inaugural service

Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:53 am

Anyone here know the breakdown of the delivery schedule, how Many per year? These 61 737Max 9s are the replacements for the 65 737-700s UA ordered to grow mainline flying. These 737Max 9s aren’t replacing older aircraft, they’re all growth.
 
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Re: 737 Max 9 North America inaugural service

Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:31 pm

STT757 wrote:
Anyone here know the breakdown of the delivery schedule, how Many per year? These 61 737Max 9s are the replacements for the 65 737-700s UA ordered to grow mainline flying. These 737Max 9s aren’t replacing older aircraft, they’re all growth.


I thought this was all for expansion now. They are also replacing some 757-200 domestic flights so the planes can be used elsewhere.
 
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Re: 737 Max 9 North America inaugural service

Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:31 pm

iahcsr wrote:
First diversion; UA1788 MCOIAH diverted to AEX due weather. Ship 7501 arrived IAH 2+ hours tardy. Interesting...

Not sure what’s “interesting...” about it. ATC was issuing tactical re-routes and the flight didn’t have sufficient fuel.
 
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Re: 737 Max 9 North America inaugural service

Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:46 pm

What kind of inflight service do Y passengers get on IAH-ANC - being 6hrs30mins, do they get a full meal with hot main dish like on long-haul flights?
 
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Re: 737 Max 9 North America inaugural service

Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:53 pm

CRJ900 wrote:
What kind of inflight service do Y passengers get on IAH-ANC - being 6hrs30mins, do they get a full meal with hot main dish like on long-haul flights?


Ha!
 
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Re: 737 Max 9 North America inaugural service

Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:27 pm

flyguy84 wrote:
iahcsr wrote:
First diversion; UA1788 MCOIAH diverted to AEX due weather. Ship 7501 arrived IAH 2+ hours tardy. Interesting...

Not sure what’s “interesting...” about it. ATC was issuing tactical re-routes and the flight didn’t have sufficient fuel.

What’s interesting is this was obviously unanticipated or the dispatcher would’ve added hold fuel. It happens now and then.
 
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Re: 737 Max 9 North America inaugural service

Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:27 pm

As much as the MAX9 is -or will be- a nice, capable, efficient plane, a.netters will still think it's no 757. Or A312LR. Oh well...

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