A belligerent traveler on a flight from St. Croix to Miami started a massive commotion on a Wednesday flight — all because he couldn't get more beer.

Even after the fight ended, and passengers were back in their seats, the man continued to be disruptive, Bolduc said.

“Hitting the chair, swearing, yelling at other passengers, spitting at people at some point,” Bolduc, who lives in Fairfax, Virginia, told WSVN.

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Beer doesn't hurt people, people who use beer hurt people.

Queue all the “AA is racing to the bottom” folks and the “AA is some how some way responsible for this man’s actions” folks.

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Obviously no Air Marshal on that flight.

Obviously no Air Marshal on that flight.

The flight attendant remained cool the entire time. I give massive props to the fa for remaining professional the entire time. I’m glad no one was seriously hurt and the guy is on his way to supermax

Sometimes I wonder if it’s even a good idea to serve alcohol on a flight. I know some people will say incidents like this don’t happen often enough to deprive passengers who need to “relax” that opportunity, but when alcohol ends up setting off someone, it definitely needs to be evaluated at the very least.

dfwjim1 wrote:

Obviously no Air Marshal on that flight.

Which is good. There are 30,000 daily flights in the United States. It makes no sense to put extra security personnel on all of them. Although it sounds like a nice job, flying around the country while getting paid. But probably no window seats for these people.

Good riddance!

dampfnudel wrote:

Sometimes I wonder if it’s even a good idea to serve alcohol on a flight. I know some people will say incidents like this don’t happen often enough to deprive passengers who need to “relax” that opportunity, but when alcohol ends up setting off someone, it definitely needs to be evaluated at the very least.

Let's not go TSA level crazy over a handful of incidents. The pax could easily have gotten drunk before boarding too.

Morons should be punished. The rest of us should be allowed to enjoy life.

Antarius wrote:

dampfnudel wrote:

Sometimes I wonder if it’s even a good idea to serve alcohol on a flight. I know some people will say incidents like this don’t happen often enough to deprive passengers who need to “relax” that opportunity, but when alcohol ends up setting off someone, it definitely needs to be evaluated at the very least.

Let's not go TSA level crazy over a handful of incidents. The pax could easily have gotten drunk before boarding too.

Morons should be punished. The rest of us should be allowed to enjoy life.

I agree that it would be unfair to the pax who can consume their alcohol in moderation, but in this litigious society, we may be only one lawsuit away from a total alcohol ban not only on aircraft, but in airports as well. Maybe there should be a limit of one alcoholic beverage for each pax onboard to account for the possibility that the pax may had already consumed a couple of drinks at the airport. I know some pax (pilots as well) have been denied boarding at the gate, but sometimes they make it onboard. Serving those pax a couple of more drinks may be basically like lighting their fuse.

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drmlnr1 wrote:

The flight attendant remained cool the entire time. I give massive props to the fa for remaining professional the entire time. I’m glad no one was seriously hurt and the guy is on his way to supermax

I hope he enjoys the hospitality he receives from the Miami office of the FBI...LOL. I wonder if making a homophobic remark to the flight attendant will be one of the charges filed against him?

dampfnudel wrote:

Antarius wrote:

dampfnudel wrote:

Sometimes I wonder if it’s even a good idea to serve alcohol on a flight. I know some people will say incidents like this don’t happen often enough to deprive passengers who need to “relax” that opportunity, but when alcohol ends up setting off someone, it definitely needs to be evaluated at the very least.

Let's not go TSA level crazy over a handful of incidents. The pax could easily have gotten drunk before boarding too.

Morons should be punished. The rest of us should be allowed to enjoy life.

I agree that it would be unfair to the pax who can consume their alcohol in moderation, but in this litigious society, we may be only one lawsuit away from a total alcohol ban not only on aircraft, but in airports as well. Maybe there should be a limit of one alcoholic beverage for each pax onboard to account for the possibility that the pax may had already consumed a couple of drinks at the airport. I know some pax (pilots as well) have been denied boarding at the gate, but sometimes they make it onboard. Serving those pax a couple of more drinks may be basically like lighting their fuse.

Yep let’s makes rules and rules for more rules to dictate everything. Of course your idea of limits sounds good but then we’ll have to make more and more rules to cover that rule. Personal responsibility is a fine rule and covers many actions without the need for 100’s of explaining rules.

dfwjim1 wrote:

. I wonder if making a homophobic remark to the flight attendant will be one of the charges filed against him?

While that does make him a douche bag, it's not illegal. Definitely wont help his case though.

dfwjim1 wrote:

Obviously no Air Marshal on that flight.

Air Marshalls are not cops to break up fights and talk down jerks. They have one mission only... Protect the Flight Deck. That drunk fight could have been diversion hoping a Marshall would blow their cover. It's up to the Flight Attendants to secure the cabin and totally optional to a Marshall.

commpilot wrote:

dfwjim1 wrote:

Obviously no Air Marshal on that flight.

Air Marshalls are not cops to break up fights and talk down jerks. They have one mission only... Protect the Flight Deck. That drunk fight could have been diversion hoping a Marshall would blow their cover. It's up to the Flight Attendants to secure the cabin and totally optional to a Marshall.

Interesting...I was under the impress that Air Marshals were responsible for the security of the whole aircraft and not just securing the cockpit. Going to have to start a separate thread about Air Marshals.