TK105 wrote:

In the latest Investor Presentation of TK, following interesting cities are listed in the wish list for near future (together with a long list of other cities):

Poland - Krakow
France - Nantes
Mexico - Mexico City

However there is still no sign about SYD & MEL.

what happened to the launch of DFW EWR YVR and SEA this summer?

behramjee wrote:

TK105 wrote:

In the latest Investor Presentation of TK, following interesting cities are listed in the wish list for near future (together with a long list of other cities):

Poland - Krakow
France - Nantes
Mexico - Mexico City

However there is still no sign about SYD & MEL.

what happened to the launch of DFW EWR YVR and SEA this summer?

I think the same can be said for MEX as to SYD & MEL. TK has been saying for years that it wants to fly to those cities. I would assume for SYD/MEL they are waiting new aircraft to start the route? (787/A350 perhaps)?

TK105 wrote:

In the latest Investor Presentation of TK, following interesting cities are listed in the wish list for near future (together with a long list of other cities):

Poland - Krakow
France - Nantes
Mexico - Mexico City

However there is still no sign about SYD & MEL.

And, there is still no sign about YVR

NOTAM issued saying that all flights will be shut to IST/ISL for 2 days

https://www.dailysabah.com/business/201 ... -on-oct-29

Whats up with the "revival" of 2 A330's for Atlasglobal?

slickvik wrote:

NOTAM issued saying that all flights will be shut to IST/ISL for 2 days

https://www.dailysabah.com/business/201 ... -on-oct-29

Big news, but how about the lounges etc, I highly doubt it will be ready by then. Lets see, hope they will get it done

I was on TK1 yesterday, IST-JFK; on TC-LJC a 3 year old 77W. Few notes:
-IST was not that busy this morning, there were absolutely no lines at passport control. Before the flight the Captain mentioned that "there will be moderate turbulence during climb and 8 hours into our flight, but all is OK and nothing we should be worried about." This is a first for me for TK.
-It was one of the shortest TK1s, 10 hrs, went up way North.
-During boarding at the final security check, they move the women forward. This is a nice gesture but creates another problem by seperating couples
-There were 12 FAs on board for 36J and 280Y pax. Very different pax profile this time.
-No nuts service.
-This alone 40ish Turkish woman in front of me in Y kept ordering French red wine and the FAs kept serving her. If it was me I would stop serving her over Iceland I even went back and warned the crew. She was drunk, loud, belligerent during the last part of the flight. FA's solution was to give her coffee. During our final descent she still had red wine, water and coffee in front of her. By this time, she pulled a 72 yr old Turkish man across the aisle and convinced him to sit next to her for the remaining of the flight. They were hugging and kissing during taxi.

An observation crossed my mind:
With fortunate raise of tourism in Turkey and the heavy return of foreign leisure carriers to holiday destinations such as as AYT, DLM, BJV, GZP, etc. is there a chance that local airlines will feel the difference on their domestic flights from IST/SAW to those destinations? The last two years all those flights were usually packed with tourist transfering via Istanbul due to lack of direct flights from countries like UK, NL, DE, RU, FR. I've very often taken full widebodies to AYT or BJV.
Just a thought after reading TC's new NWI-DLM service.

stylo777 wrote:

An observation crossed my mind:
With fortunate raise of tourism in Turkey and the heavy return of foreign leisure carriers to holiday destinations such as as AYT, DLM, BJV, GZP, etc. is there a chance that local airlines will feel the difference on their domestic flights from IST/SAW to those destinations? The last two years all those flights were usually packed with tourist transfering via Istanbul due to lack of direct flights from countries like UK, NL, DE, RU, FR. I've very often taken full widebodies to AYT or BJV.
Just a thought after reading TC's new NWI-DLM service.

I might be wrong but I think most of these 'new' passengers weren't the ones who were connecting in the past. They flew directly to Cyprus, Greece, Spain, Portugal ... last year. I think Turkey is recapturing a lost market, very few will be redirected.

On social media there are news that Atlasglobal added 2 X 330s. Anyone can confirm, where did they come from, layouts? Thank you.

Any news about the potential de-coupling of the current IST-BOG-PTY-IST route?
It is been said that since TK strengthened the code sharing with Copa at PTY this could happen
soon...

TK787 wrote:

-No nuts service.
-This alone 40ish Turkish woman in front of me in Y kept ordering French red wine and the FAs kept serving her. If it was me I would stop serving her over Iceland I even went back and warned the crew. She was drunk, loud, belligerent during the last part of the flight. FA's solution was to give her coffee. During our final descent she still had red wine, water and coffee in front of her. By this time, she pulled a 72 yr old Turkish man across the aisle and convinced him to sit next to her for the remaining of the flight. They were hugging and kissing during taxi.

Sounds like you did have a nut on your flight.

gokmengs wrote:

slickvik wrote:

NOTAM issued saying that all flights will be shut to IST/ISL for 2 days

https://www.dailysabah.com/business/201 ... -on-oct-29

Big news, but how about the lounges etc, I highly doubt it will be ready by then. Lets see, hope they will get it done

Well, I tried really hard to find out that "published/declared" NOTAM but failed... In one other Forum (FlyerTalk) there's an interesting comment on this issue.

QUOTE
I too have just searched and could not find any "original" NOTAM. It would seem that Sabah is the source of this, and it would seem that their source was IGA. In any case, if it was issued, it can always be changed, and in itself means nothing, especially for a planned event that may change at any time. NOTAM's often are for the exact opposite, things that have just or just about to change, i.e. "Runway xx/yy will be closed tomorrow between 00:00 and 00:00" due to a head of state arriving, emergency runway works or whatever. Sounds to me like they PLANNED on issuing a real NOTAM at the 6 month mark (which I referred to above), did not actually publish it, probably due to the fact that they knew they would not really hit the date, fired their CEO, have a bunch of other problems, and someone went and sent out the weird IATA one (which in itself means nothing).

This is all fun to watch five months out, but can have a real impact on IST and TK if they do not get their act together one way or another.
UNQUOTE

From Routesonline:

Qatar Airways in last week’s schedule update further expands planned Doha – Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen capacity, with additional flights added from 15JUN18. Overall frequency will increase from 17 to 21 weekly. Previously planned 787-8 service, operating as QR241/242 from 01JUL18, remains unchanged.

QR241 DOH0900 – 1330SAW 788 D
QR243 DOH1400 – 1830SAW EQV D
QR237 DOH1640 – 2110SAW 320 D

QR242 SAW1440 – 1850DOH 788 D
QR244 SAW1930 – 2340DOH EQV D
QR238 SAW2210 – 0220+1DOH 320 D

Massive QR capacity in the Turkish market; also flying to IST, ESB, ADA, HTY and soon BJV and AYT

Both FZ and QR have added a lot of extra seats to SAW. I do wonder, what will happen when the new airport opens? Could we see even more flights added as the new IST will be even less convenient for those living on the Asian side.

By the way, which airport will be closer to downtown Istanbul, new IST or SAW?

Blerg wrote:

By the way, which airport will be closer to downtown Istanbul, new IST or SAW?

Definately will be IST.

Interesting fact that QR offers lower prices than IST if you choose to fly out there. Even I got a plane ticket to CGK departs at SAW despite my home is away almost 150 KM from SAW. Difference can be up to 100 USD sometimes.

TK787 wrote:

On social media there are news that Atlasglobal added 2 X 330s. Anyone can confirm, where did they come from, layouts? Thank you.

Had asked the same question earlier and a little research revealed this to me:
- 2x 332 leased from Egyptian airline "Air Leisure";
- aircraft involved are SU-ALB and SU-ALC
- operations already started a few days ago
- operating ex. AYT to various Russian and Kasakhian cities

clo1973 wrote:

Any news about the potential de-coupling of the current IST-BOG-PTY-IST route?
It is been said that since TK strengthened the code sharing with Copa at PTY this could happen
soon...

interesting question, just used the flight last week - and it was quite good booked in ECO and would say half full in Business (quite surprise to me) Business was fille up with some non rev pax.

cheers
Avianca

stylo777 wrote:

TK787 wrote:

On social media there are news that Atlasglobal added 2 X 330s. Anyone can confirm, where did they come from, layouts? Thank you.

Had asked the same question earlier and a little research revealed this to me:
- 2x 332 leased from Egyptian airline "Air Leisure";
- aircraft involved are SU-ALB and SU-ALC
- operations already started a few days ago
- operating ex. AYT to various Russian and Kasakhian cities

Thanks for the info stylo. I wonder if this is only for the summer season.

mafaky wrote:

gokmengs wrote:

slickvik wrote:

NOTAM issued saying that all flights will be shut to IST/ISL for 2 days

https://www.dailysabah.com/business/201 ... -on-oct-29

Big news, but how about the lounges etc, I highly doubt it will be ready by then. Lets see, hope they will get it done

Well, I tried really hard to find out that "published/declared" NOTAM but failed... In one other Forum (FlyerTalk) there's an interesting comment on this issue.

QUOTE
I too have just searched and could not find any "original" NOTAM. It would seem that Sabah is the source of this, and it would seem that their source was IGA. In any case, if it was issued, it can always be changed, and in itself means nothing, especially for a planned event that may change at any time. NOTAM's often are for the exact opposite, things that have just or just about to change, i.e. "Runway xx/yy will be closed tomorrow between 00:00 and 00:00" due to a head of state arriving, emergency runway works or whatever. Sounds to me like they PLANNED on issuing a real NOTAM at the 6 month mark (which I referred to above), did not actually publish it, probably due to the fact that they knew they would not really hit the date, fired their CEO, have a bunch of other problems, and someone went and sent out the weird IATA one (which in itself means nothing).

This is all fun to watch five months out, but can have a real impact on IST and TK if they do not get their act together one way or another.
UNQUOTE

This is becoming quite the "yilan hikayesi" I personally believe there will be ribbon cutting on oct 29, however the official move won't be done months after that when most everything is in place and pax can have a decent experience. That would be the logical and correct move, however this is Turkey and we shall wait and see.

TK787 wrote:

stylo777 wrote:

TK787 wrote:

On social media there are news that Atlasglobal added 2 X 330s. Anyone can confirm, where did they come from, layouts? Thank you.

Had asked the same question earlier and a little research revealed this to me:
- 2x 332 leased from Egyptian airline "Air Leisure";
- aircraft involved are SU-ALB and SU-ALC
- operations already started a few days ago
- operating ex. AYT to various Russian and Kasakhian cities

Thanks for the info stylo. I wonder if this is only for the summer season.

I would think so... it has always been difficult to profitably operate widebodies during the winter for KK and 8Q

stylo777 wrote:

TK787 wrote:

On social media there are news that Atlasglobal added 2 X 330s. Anyone can confirm, where did they come from, layouts? Thank you.

Had asked the same question earlier and a little research revealed this to me:
- 2x 332 leased from Egyptian airline "Air Leisure";
- aircraft involved are SU-ALB and SU-ALC
- operations already started a few days ago
- operating ex. AYT to various Russian and Kasakhian cities

Thanks for the info as always, are they wet leased? if not will they wear the KK livery.

PS can someone please teach me how to quote multiple people on same reply:((((

The leased Airbus A330-200s for Atlasglobal will operate until mid October according to Airlineroute flightplan notes. I´ve heard there is coming another one soon, probably from Jordan. I´m wondering what they will do next winter if charter operations are down.
The wet-leased Boeing bird TC-SNT is back in SXS service, after KK service.

Btw Corendon is adding very much capacity too. Beside the first Boeing 737 MAX 8 they added to their fleet last week, they have overall 3 Airbus A320s on wet-lease; 2 operating for Corendon Airlines Europe, 1 for Corendon Turkey. Total 18 aircraft now operating (comparison last winter it was 14 of which 3-4 was on wet-lease to SpiceJet). Rumors say there is coming 2 Boeing 737-800 from Turkish Airlines soon (TC-JGK and TC-JGO).

Onur Air is back on top I could say. They have only 2 bird in maintenance (the whole winter they had nearly 8-10 birds on ground), operating 2 A330s by own from Antalya. 1 A330 and 1 A321 will join the fleet soon.

Turkish Airlines will add this year 7 Boeing 737 MAX 8, 3 Airbus A321 NEO, 3 Boeing 777 Freighter and one second hand A330-200 Freighter. 2 A330-200 (pax) which was flying until 2016 for TK, coming back for 1 year (TC-JIV and TC-JIY).
6 owned Boeing 737-800 and 3 wet-leased one´s plus 5 A320-200 will leave the fleet this year in total.

First Boeing 787-9 is coming in 2019, first Airbus A350-900 in 2020.

Interesting story:
Someone arrested on TK IST-DEL flight for masturbating mid-air...

https://sputniknews.com/asia/2018052110 ... ted-delhi/

Latest news about the fate of IST:
President Erdogan: "Atatürk Airport will be a huge national garden"
I'll believe it when I see it
It is a shame that a 60+M capacity, an established/connected airport will be closed to make way for the 150M new airport. There will be a demand for a 3rd airport sometime in the near future. Wouldn't it be possible just to keep the 5/23 open?

TK787 wrote:

Latest news about the fate of IST:
President Erdogan: "Atatürk Airport will be a huge national garden"
I'll believe it when I see it
It is a shame that a 60+M capacity, an established/connected airport will be closed to make way for the 150M new airport. There will be a demand for a 3rd airport sometime in the near future. Wouldn't it be possible just to keep the 5/23 open?

Would this make IST the biggest airport that closed?

Yakamoz wrote:

Turkish Airlines will add this year 7 Boeing 737 MAX 8, 3 Airbus A321 NEO, 3 Boeing 777 Freighter and one second hand A330-200 Freighter. 2 A330-200 (pax) which was flying until 2016 for TK, coming back for 1 year (TC-JIV and TC-JIY).
6 owned Boeing 737-800 and 3 wet-leased one´s plus 5 A320-200 will leave the fleet this year in total.

First Boeing 787-9 is coming in 2019, first Airbus A350-900 in 2020.

TK is taking back both A332 that went to Nordwind?

TK787 wrote:

Latest news about the fate of IST:
President Erdogan: "Atatürk Airport will be a huge national garden"
I'll believe it when I see it
It is a shame that a 60+M capacity, an established/connected airport will be closed to make way for the 150M new airport. There will be a demand for a 3rd airport sometime in the near future. Wouldn't it be possible just to keep the 5/23 open?

Well they have to close it so the new airport investors can start making the max money, (guess that was the agreement) they were saying it will be a GA airport and I was super excited for that, I'm still thinking it could be part park and part GA airport. A city like Istanbul needs a GA airport really bad, that will benefit the 2 big airports as small ac wont take up traffic.

gokmengs wrote:

TK787 wrote:

Latest news about the fate of IST:
President Erdogan: "Atatürk Airport will be a huge national garden"
I'll believe it when I see it
It is a shame that a 60+M capacity, an established/connected airport will be closed to make way for the 150M new airport. There will be a demand for a 3rd airport sometime in the near future. Wouldn't it be possible just to keep the 5/23 open?

Well they have to close it so the new airport investors can start making the max money, (guess that was the agreement) they were saying it will be a GA airport and I was super excited for that, I'm still thinking it could be part park and part GA airport. A city like Istanbul needs a GA airport really bad, that will benefit the 2 big airports as small ac wont take up traffic.

Exactly my feelings. I am not sure about if the airspace allows this, but 5/23 can stay open be a GA airport, VIP airport and even an emergency airport.

TK787 wrote:

I was on TK1 yesterday, IST-JFK ...Few notes:
-This alone 40ish Turkish woman in front of me in Y kept ordering French red wine and the FAs kept serving her. If it was me I would stop serving her over Iceland I even went back and warned the crew. She was drunk, loud, belligerent during the last part of the flight. FA's solution was to give her coffee. During our final descent she still had red wine, water and coffee in front of her. By this time, she pulled a 72 yr old Turkish man across the aisle and convinced him to sit next to her for the remaining of the flight. They were hugging and kissing during taxi.

TK105 wrote:

Interesting story:
Someone arrested on TK IST-DEL flight for masturbating mid-air...
https://sputniknews.com/asia/2018052110 ... ted-delhi/

I will consider the obviously good chance of alternative IFE when I plan my next trip to Asia...
My be another method to attract PAX?

juliuswong wrote:

Yakamoz wrote:

Turkish Airlines will add this year 7 Boeing 737 MAX 8, 3 Airbus A321 NEO, 3 Boeing 777 Freighter and one second hand A330-200 Freighter. 2 A330-200 (pax) which was flying until 2016 for TK, coming back for 1 year (TC-JIV and TC-JIY).
6 owned Boeing 737-800 and 3 wet-leased one´s plus 5 A320-200 will leave the fleet this year in total.

First Boeing 787-9 is coming in 2019, first Airbus A350-900 in 2020.

TK is taking back both A332 that went to Nordwind?

Yes, both are in IST in maintenance. Also TK is showing 17 A332 now on their page, so probably 1 has already been re-registred.
TK investor presentation says just for 1 year.

Yakamoz wrote:

juliuswong wrote:

Yakamoz wrote:

Turkish Airlines will add this year 7 Boeing 737 MAX 8, 3 Airbus A321 NEO, 3 Boeing 777 Freighter and one second hand A330-200 Freighter. 2 A330-200 (pax) which was flying until 2016 for TK, coming back for 1 year (TC-JIV and TC-JIY).
6 owned Boeing 737-800 and 3 wet-leased one´s plus 5 A320-200 will leave the fleet this year in total.

First Boeing 787-9 is coming in 2019, first Airbus A350-900 in 2020.

TK is taking back both A332 that went to Nordwind?

Yes, both are in IST in maintenance. Also TK is showing 17 A332 now on their page, so probably 1 has already been re-registred.
TK investor presentation says just for 1 year.

Thank you Yakmoz for the confirmation. It was awefully short stint at Nordwind. I remember they refurbished both A332 before entering service. Wouldn't this mean TK has one more cabin configuration for 332 fleet? With ex-Nordwind aircraft, there will be six different configurations: TK own, Air Afriqiyah, TAM, Jet Airways, Kingfisher Airlines and now this new one.

TK named "Cargo Airline of the Year" Air Cargo Week magazine at an industry event held in Shanghai.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/economy/turkis ... rd/1155652

https://worldaircargoawards.com/vote.cfm?cat=10

TK Cargo garnered winning votes for its:
> Route network and development strategy
> Responsiveness to market requirements
> Operational performance levels and customer service standards

juliuswong wrote:

Yakamoz wrote:

juliuswong wrote:

TK is taking back both A332 that went to Nordwind?

Yes, both are in IST in maintenance. Also TK is showing 17 A332 now on their page, so probably 1 has already been re-registred.
TK investor presentation says just for 1 year.

Thank you Yakmoz for the confirmation. It was awefully short stint at Nordwind. I remember they refurbished both A332 before entering service. Wouldn't this mean TK has one more cabin configuration for 332 fleet? With ex-Nordwind aircraft, there will be six different configurations: TK own, Air Afriqiyah, TAM, Jet Airways, Kingfisher Airlines and now this new one.

The 2 birds coming back from Nordwind are also ex TAM aircraft which were re-configurated before they went. So all ex TAM birds have C24Y255 cabins.

There are 7 different cabin configurations:

A332:

3 lsf Jet Airways: C30Y190
6+2 ex TAM: C24Y255
2 ex Kingfisher: C18Y251
5 TK own: C18Y232

A333
7 ex Skymark: C40Y265
1 lsf Afriqiyah: C28Y263
29 TK own: C18Y261

Heathrow HubLAB meeting takes place next month in London to discuss the 25 largest markets without Heathrow connection. The top in the list according to size and demand to/from LHR is;

1) Paris Orly ORY
2) Istanbul Sabiha Gökçen SAW
3) Antalya AYT
4) Ankara Esenboğa ESB
5) Moscow Vnukovo VKO

Izmir Adnan Menderes ADB is 8th on the list.

TAV is actively lobbying for Ankara and Izmir and their reasoning is herein below;

Ankara, Turkey’s capital. No Heathrow connection!

TAV Airports, which runs both Ankara and Izmir airports, offered its business case for Heathrow links to both facilities. “Ankara is the capital city of Turkey, but lacks direct flights from London Heathrow,” says Can Canbolat, Marketing Specialist, TAV Airports. “About 20,000 one-way passengers annually are travelling from Ankara to the UK via Istanbul Atatürk, Istanbul Sabiha Gökçen and Munich, due to the lack of direct services, and half of these connecting passengers are travelling to Heathrow. There is also substantial connecting traffic from Ankara to North American destinations via different airports, which could be exploited and connected via Heathrow if there were an Ankara-Heathrow direct service. With its huge population and catchment area of up to six million people, plus ethnic, business and educational links with the UK, and year-round seasonality, Ankara is a strong candidate for a direct Heathrow service.”

Izmir – population 5m! No Heathrow connection!

“Izmir is the second-largest commercial city in Turkey with 26,000 one-way passengers connecting via other airports onward to the UK,” says Canbolat. “About 12,000 of these transiting passengers are heading for Heathrow. Like Ankara there is huge potential for connecting traffic for onward services to North America, which could be handled via Heathrow. Izmir has a population of five million people, while its catchment includes seven million.”

With TK concentrating on new IST hub I do not expect TK to launch ESB LHR and/or ADB LHR, TK will be very reluctant to utilize its lucrative LHR slots for ESB and/or ADB. BA is the most logical candidate to reinstate ESB LHR and also to reinstate ADB LGW rather than launching ADB LHR in my opinion. With TK's superior service on LHR IST Ankara and Izmir both are good opportunities for BA to improve its market share in Turkey as IST is not looking very promising for either one of the European carriers nowadays in my opinion. ESB will add a lot of transfer pax to/from LHR also...

The article is in annaaero site for those who like to review

http://www.anna.aero/2018/05/23/heathro ... ts-europe/

Yes its official they are moving ops and everything on the target date and much to mu surprise all most F&B and TK lounge will be ready from what I've heard (if not ready by open TK lounge opening very soon) I will get 1 more update with videos from the airport and will let you guys know. This will be crazy no matter how it goes, and I expect a clusterf**

As for current IST, it will be a 1 runway GA airport with a park next to it "Millet Park" will be its name.

Ankara is a good candidate for a connection to London although 26,000 pax per year is just 500 per week. Some pax will always choose the cheapest ticket (even if that means changing plane on the way) so maybe demand for a direct flight won't be quite as high.

SunExpress's new Ankara-Luton route seems to be selling well in July/August with high fares. June fares seem quite a bit lower so maybe somewhat seasonal.

If BA were to try Ankara, would Gatwick make sense to get an idea of demand and then upgrade to Heathrow later if things turn out well ?

I'm not sure about Izmir from London. Summer definitely, but is there really demand for London-Izmir in November ? I'm wondering if TAV are perhaps asking for a year-round service to both Ankara and Izmir but would be happy with just Ankara.

Yakamoz wrote:

29 TK own: C18Y261

I think you mean TK own 333: C28 Y261

Hi all
I flew 3 times last week, i found at last page of skylife magazin numbers of A333 as 40
It says planned as of end of May, which means 3 additional 333a
Also number of a332 as 18, we know source if 2 a332 but what about 3a333, any idea, rumor
What dows

TK787 wrote:

On social media there are news that Atlasglobal added 2 X 330s. Anyone can confirm, where did they come from, layouts? Thank you.

They came from Egypt's Air Leisure.

I flown BA a lot during 80'ies when they did daily LHR-IST-ESB (some days with 757 but mainly with 737's) and also between 2006 and 2009 when when BA franchise BMED (later on BMI) operated LHR ESB (A321 LR cabin) and onward to Khartoum or Damascus or Aleppo.

The Club Class was always almost full for ESB and the loads were quite high, it was almost not possible to find seats on certain days in Club Class, today it is called Business Class.. ESB is also a premium market and will attract a lot of North American connecting pax

BA and TK are the most logical carriers to do this but BA has a lot more to offer to ESB ex LHR than TK for sure but TK can attract a lot of transit pax to other central and Eastern Turkish airports as well as to North Cyprus from LHR, destinations within reach from ESB like Arbil, Teheran, Baghdad etc.

The flights will definitely be popular and will make good revenue in my opinion..BA is lucky that TK is focused on IST and this may not last forever so they should take advantage of this while they can..

ESB LTN will catch some pax but ESB needs LHR but LGW will work too to start with if LHR slots are scarce

davidjohnson6 wrote:

Ankara is a good candidate for a connection to London although 26,000 pax per year is just 500 per week. Some pax will always choose the cheapest ticket (even if that means changing plane on the way) so maybe demand for a direct flight won't be quite as high.

SunExpress's new Ankara-Luton route seems to be selling well in July/August with high fares. June fares seem quite a bit lower so maybe somewhat seasonal.

If BA were to try Ankara, would Gatwick make sense to get an idea of demand and then upgrade to Heathrow later if things turn out well ?

I'm not sure about Izmir from London. Summer definitely, but is there really demand for London-Izmir in November ? I'm wondering if TAV are perhaps asking for a year-round service to both Ankara and Izmir but would be happy with just Ankara.

TK787 wrote:

Yakamoz wrote:

29 TK own: C18Y261

I think you mean TK own 333: C28 Y261

My mistake, thanks. Yeah, for sure C28Y261.

Quite surprised that our famous and legendary ESB-LHR discussion took a while to popup again...

Hey why not?
I like it. I hope to get some supporters for my JFK-SAW idea along the way.
By the way, how long do you guys think before TK drops Morgan Freeman? I hope they will learn their lesson and go like EK way, a safer Jennifer Aniston type

Just came off TK2109 (ESB-IST on 77W), and while on the bus from our gate to the domestic terminal we passed a accident on the inner roadway somewhere along gates 205-215. Anyone has more info regarding the accident? I hope both drivers are okay.

Re: B747forever's question; I checked Turkish aviation sites and haven't seen anything about it.
As for the famous ESB-LHR flight, I think if anyone would launch the route it would not be TK, TK doesn't want to bypass IST, I can see BA reattempting it but if the market was there they would have done it already. PC is the number 1 candidate if you ask me if they ever start Intl flights from ESB(really not sure if they are already serving Intl destinations) if anyone can make it work its them.
@TK787 are you referring to his recent sexual assault news? I've just read that Visa dropped him as well.
Guys I am guilty of this as well sometimes I forget this thread, I like it when its a bit more active, thanks everyone for their contributions. In about 5 months we will be flying from the new IST. WOW

gokmengs wrote:

PC is the number 1 candidate if you ask me if they ever start Intl flights from ESB(really not sure if they are already serving Intl destinations) if anyone can make it work its them.
@TK787 are you referring to his recent sexual assault news? I've just read that Visa dropped him as well.

-Not sure PC can afford LHR slots, not even sure if LHR has any slots??
-Yes, let's see what TK does. I'll be on a TK flight today, see if I hear Morgan Freeman say: "Widen Your World"

Turkish Technic has joined Boeing's Global Fleet Care Supplier network. What this means is that Boeing will send TK line maintenance, heavy maintenance and component service and repair work from its 60+ airline customers that contract directly from Boeing for such support.
Additionally, TK and Boeing have agreed to collaborate in the training and certification of technicians.

https://www.eturbonews.com/186154/boein ... -agreement