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wnflyguy wrote:Thanks to B6 reallocation of its West Coast operations it has advised LGB it's permanently returning 12 slots affect September 5th 2018.
Question now besides WN who's already stated in the past it will take any available slots at LGB.
Who else will request slots?
I can see Hawaiian wanting 2 additional.
AA already just returned 3 slots less than a year ago.
DL I can see wanting to swap there remaining 2 commuter slots for 2 more main line slots.
Will AS with it's soon to be available aircraft from the DCA & LGA reduction will it make another return to LGB for it's battle for California.
United could return again to LGB.
Adding to it's DEN growth.
Spirit ,Frontier or Allegiant bring it's ULCC to LGB.
So many possibilities.
Let the guessing begin!
Flyguy
airliner371 wrote:Now I know commuter slots are a thing. These are not commuter slots. Are there any available commuter slots? What is the largest aircraft allowed to be operated with an LGB commuter slot? That could change how slots are distributed, I could see WN arguing if they don't get enough slots, that smaller aircraft should be using any available commuter slots, that's why I ask.
Sean-SAN- wrote:Allegiant has done LGB in the past and it didn't pan out.
OzarkD9S wrote:No sense delaying the inevitable...give 'em all to WN.
Super80Fan wrote:Yes, see post #5 above for link to the Long Beach Press Telegram article. Personally I would like for Delta to have all remaining slots and start all B717 service to the top 10 markets.Wait a minute, yes I am missing something here but how is B6 giving up all those slots but still gaining flights, are the cutting other routes/frequencies out of LGB?
Jshank83 wrote:LGB has gotten interest from DL, WN, Hawaiian so far
https://twitter.com/justinbachman/statu ... 55458?s=21
airliner371 wrote:AS has tried LGB so many times, we will see
hiflyeras wrote:I'm not sure why people think AS is interested in returning to LGB when they left voluntarily and have shown no interest in returning when the opportunity has presented itself.
hiflyeras wrote:I'm not sure why people think AS is interested in returning to LGB when they left voluntarily and have shown no interest in returning when the opportunity has presented itself.
DaCubbyBearBar wrote:IMHO, I think that LGB will diversify the 12 slots as best as possible to as many as possible. HA, for example, could go with 3 more. Running side-by-side IAH-LGB-HNL and DEN-LGB-OGG and back. This allows pax from IAH and DEN to LGB and then transfer pax going from IAH to get on OGG flight and vice versa with DEN. Personally I can so no airline getting more than 3/4 slots. With DL, HA, and WN already showing interest, I think AS and UA will throw their hats in the ring as well. I believe that AA will steer clear though. We shall find out soon I would think as September 5th is just 132 days out.
FrmrKSEngr wrote:1 for Norwegian from Dublin. Pre-clearance makes that possible.
tphuang wrote:It's pretty amusing reading all these predictions. People really have no concept here of how bad WN, AA and DL have also been doing at LGB.
As for the short runway at SNA/BUR, why is that a problem when the only carrier doing transcon flight out of secondary LA area airport is B6? As long as SNA is around, LGB yields will be bad.
jfklganyc wrote:tphuang wrote:It's pretty amusing reading all these predictions. People really have no concept here of how bad WN, AA and DL have also been doing at LGB.
As for the short runway at SNA/BUR, why is that a problem when the only carrier doing transcon flight out of secondary LA area airport is B6? As long as SNA is around, LGB yields will be bad.
Dont throw reality on a.net wet dreams.
B6 is walking away from slots as valuable as LGA, DCA, or LHR without a penny. They, after years of trying, dont know how to make money in LGB...but everyone else clamoring to come in does and will. (Note the sarcasm please)
SurfandSnow wrote:LGB may not offer the best yields
SurfandSnow wrote:but it does offer low costs to its operators.
SurfandSnow wrote:I would not underestimate the interest in these slots. WN has had to significantly reduce operations at nearby SNA in recent years. They could easily beef up existing services to LAS and DEN, or add additional routes like DAL, MDW, etc.
tphuang wrote:
As for the short runway at SNA/BUR, why is that a problem when the only carrier doing transcon flight out of secondary LA area airport is B6? As long as SNA is around, LGB yields will be bad.
jfklganyc wrote:JB is cutting 12 flights. 1/3 of its LGB operation.
I think you guys are overestimating demand.
This is a sad day for Long Beach and for the JB hub.
The final result (a few years out) will be the end of point to point flying for JetBlue on the West Coast and a huge drop in the amount of passengers using this brand new terminal in LGB.
JB overplayed their hand with the FIS proceeding, and the LGB City Council made a grave mistake.
No one else is coming in to replicate the JB hub. Not WN, not a legacy...no one.
lavalampluva wrote:IMO they won't add anything east of the Rockies.