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United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:53 pm

The seat map for the upcoming 787-10 for United Airlines has been leaked.

In total it will have 318 seats

44 Polaris seats
21 Premium Economy
45 Economy Plus
208 Regular Economy

https://www.ausbt.com.au/united-s-boein ... ource=hero
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:53 pm

qf789 wrote:
The seat map for the upcoming 787-10 for United Airlines has been leaked.

In total it will have 318 seats

44 Polaris seats
21 Premium Economy
45 Economy Plus
208 Regular Economy

https://www.ausbt.com.au/united-s-boein ... ource=hero


This is where UA takes a leap forward over DL (not sure about AA's seat map). DL's 350's and soon to be refurbished 777's will NOT have economy plus. That really screws the top elites that don't want to pay for business class or premium economy. The only option is a standard coach seat. I give UA props for this, very well thought out and very well done.
 
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:58 pm

What missions are the 787-10s being used for? TATL?
 
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:04 pm

jumbojet wrote:
qf789 wrote:
The seat map for the upcoming 787-10 for United Airlines has been leaked.

In total it will have 318 seats

44 Polaris seats
21 Premium Economy
45 Economy Plus
208 Regular Economy

https://www.ausbt.com.au/united-s-boein ... ource=hero


This is where UA takes a leap forward over DL (not sure about AA's seat map). DL's 350's and soon to be refurbished 777's will NOT have economy plus. That really screws the top elites that don't want to pay for business class or premium economy. The only option is a standard coach seat. I give UA props for this, very well thought out and very well done.


I'm a bit surprised the size of the PE vs E+ cabins are where they are though. Definitely agree with your statement that it is good of UA to still offer E+ on planes with a full PE option, but I'm surprised they're making PE such a small component of the cabin.
 
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:05 pm

dmstorm22 wrote:
jumbojet wrote:
qf789 wrote:
The seat map for the upcoming 787-10 for United Airlines has been leaked.

In total it will have 318 seats

44 Polaris seats
21 Premium Economy
45 Economy Plus
208 Regular Economy


I'm a bit surprised the size of the PE vs E+ cabins are where they are though. Definitely agree with your statement that it is good of UA to still offer E+ on planes with a full PE option, but I'm surprised they're making PE such a small component of the cabin.


agreed. You would think those #'s are mistakes and the Premium Economy would get the 45 or so seats and Eco plus would get the lesser amount.
 
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:05 pm

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What missions are the 787-10s being used for? TATL?


That seems to be the assumption, high-volume TATL routes.

I believe there is also good speculation they'll run them on high-volume routes to South America as well.
 
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:17 pm

jumbojet wrote:
qf789 wrote:
The seat map for the upcoming 787-10 for United Airlines has been leaked.

In total it will have 318 seats

44 Polaris seats
21 Premium Economy
45 Economy Plus
208 Regular Economy

https://www.ausbt.com.au/united-s-boein ... ource=hero


This is where UA takes a leap forward over DL (not sure about AA's seat map). DL's 350's and soon to be refurbished 777's will NOT have economy plus. That really screws the top elites that don't want to pay for business class or premium economy. The only option is a standard coach seat. I give UA props for this, very well thought out and very well done.


Of course the relative profitability of DL and UA MIGHT indicate that by offering elites the chance NOT to buy Prem economy hurts financial performance - cannibalising one's own revenue opportunity.
Nice for the UA elites of course! But does remind me of the old days when US carriers really struggled with profitability (hard to imagine these days!!) because their front end was full of elite upgrades/rewards and only modest revenue paying pax!!
 
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:24 pm

[url]The Premium Plus experience will include wider seats with more recline and legroom, with United also promising "upgraded dining on china dinnerware, free alcoholic beverages, a Saks Fifth Avenue blanket and pillow, an amenity kit and more."[/url]

Image

I think they might be overspecifying here a bit. Polaris cubicles don't look too inviting, flights up to 8 hours..
:point: I can see UA having second thoughts soon..

I see they do the sharp corners everywhere too. Genius :shakehead:
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:59 pm

I’m just curious how much these will cost, compared to regular economy and then to Polaris.
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:00 pm

¿MAD in the UA B787-10?
 
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:03 pm

This was posted along with many other widebody configuration changes with seatmaps in the United fleet thread few days ago.

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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:20 pm

They are also increasing the number of Polaris seats on the 763.
 
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:35 pm

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¿MAD in the UA B787-10?


More like LHR & FRA in Europe and GRU & EZE in South America.
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:39 pm

Looks absolutely lovely. Can't wait to try it out once in service. I could definitely see ourselves splurging for Premium Economy per the picture shown. More recline = a big win for me.
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:08 pm

dcajet wrote:
pabloeing wrote:
¿MAD in the UA B787-10?


More like LHR & FRA in Europe and GRU & EZE in South America.

Out of which hub?
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:11 pm

AVENSAB727 wrote:
dcajet wrote:
pabloeing wrote:
¿MAD in the UA B787-10?


More like LHR & FRA in Europe and GRU & EZE in South America.

Out of which hub?

Likely these birds show up at ORD/EWR
 
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:17 pm

jumbojet wrote:
qf789 wrote:
The seat map for the upcoming 787-10 for United Airlines has been leaked.

In total it will have 318 seats

44 Polaris seats
21 Premium Economy
45 Economy Plus
208 Regular Economy

https://www.ausbt.com.au/united-s-boein ... ource=hero


This is where UA takes a leap forward over DL (not sure about AA's seat map). DL's 350's and soon to be refurbished 777's will NOT have economy plus. That really screws the top elites that don't want to pay for business class or premium economy. The only option is a standard coach seat. I give UA props for this, very well thought out and very well done.


Then again, DL does have more legroom in regular economy compared with UA on average...
 
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:41 pm

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Then again, DL does have more legroom in regular economy compared with UA on average...

Seat Guru indicates DL A350 coach seat pitch at 31-32 inches with UA 787 coach seat pitch at 32 inches.
 
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:46 pm

This will be the jewel in their crown at least until the A350's come and maybe if they order the 77X, 787 comfort and design, the beautiful atmosphere of Polaris and the comfort of those seats. I do think that the days of MP being the most (or one of) the most generous programs will come to an end. (and without a good corp discount, Polaris prices are not for the faint of heart). I do think that they will now be able to say they are a premium airline to LHR.
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:46 pm

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They are also increasing the number of Polaris seats on the 763.


On a subfleet of 763s yes....the rest will remain in the standard Polaris configuration.
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:48 pm

dcajet wrote:
pabloeing wrote:
¿MAD in the UA B787-10?


More like LHR & FRA in Europe and GRU & EZE in South America.


While I agree with you, it does make me wonder then where the displaced 777s might go? It doesn't seem like United is running Tight on 772s and it seems to me that putting the 772 on some of the 763 routes might be a bit too much capacity
 
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:51 pm

mattnrsa wrote:
FlightLevel360 wrote:
Then again, DL does have more legroom in regular economy compared with UA on average...

Seat Guru indicates DL A350 coach seat pitch at 31-32 inches with UA 787 coach seat pitch at 32 inches.


Also worth noting that on the fleet thread, where this was already discussed, back of the envelope calculations by a couple of posters indicate PE will have a 45 inch pitch vs DL and AAs 38/40 inch pitch. UA hasn't released the numbers yet but that would also leapfrog their competitors.
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:56 pm

flyguy84 wrote:
AVENSAB727 wrote:
dcajet wrote:

More like LHR & FRA in Europe and GRU & EZE in South America.

Out of which hub?

Likely these birds show up at ORD/EWR

Any chance for IAH or SFO?
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:48 pm

I tried the new Polaris recently on a flight from NRt to EWR and I must say I was not really impressed. The space appeared crowded and I felt I was in a confined space to almost a claustrophobic feeling. The cabin looked nice but the comfort wasn’t there. The current businessfirst seats feel more comfortable and more spacious I think.
 
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Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:50 pm

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44 Polaris seats
21 Premium Economy
45 Economy Plus
208 Regular Economy


So we have three levels of economy. Why not just dump the "economy" moniker in Premium and Plus...or maybe be consistent and make it four levels of economy, including: Polaris Economy
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Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:51 pm

AVENSAB727 wrote:
flyguy84 wrote:
AVENSAB727 wrote:
Out of which hub?

Likely these birds show up at ORD/EWR

Any chance for IAH or SFO?


No for IAH, at least initially.
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:08 pm

dz09 wrote:
I tried the new Polaris recently on a flight from NRt to EWR and I must say I was not really impressed. The space appeared crowded and I felt I was in a confined space to almost a claustrophobic feeling. The cabin looked nice but the comfort wasn’t there. The current businessfirst seats feel more comfortable and more spacious I think.


No way they add "Polaris" to economy. It would be even *MORE* confusing than today where they call that abomination 2-4-2 sUA 777-200 "Polaris Business" configuration.

Honestly, they should have only called things Polaris that were actual hard product Polaris as they upgrade. Other Business is Business Class. First Class is First Class.
 
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Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:22 pm

QuarkFly wrote:
qf789 wrote:

44 Polaris seats
21 Premium Economy
45 Economy Plus
208 Regular Economy


So we have three levels of economy. Why not just dump the "economy" moniker in Premium and Plus...or maybe be consistent and make it four levels of economy, including: Polaris Economy


It’s all about marketing and segmentation.

Polaris
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:41 pm

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[url]The Premium Plus experience will include wider seats with more recline and legroom, with United also promising "upgraded dining on china dinnerware, free alcoholic beverages, a Saks Fifth Avenue blanket and pillow, an amenity kit and more."[/url]

Image

I think they might be overspecifying here a bit. Polaris cubicles don't look too inviting, flights up to 8 hours..
:point: I can see UA having second thoughts soon..

I see they do the sharp corners everywhere too. Genius :shakehead:


Have you ever actually sat in the Polaris Business Class seat? Given the staggered nature, the seating is either 4 across or 8 across depending on how you do the math. Most of the newer business class designs are about 44 inches between rows where the footwell of one row is squeezed between other seats allowing for a 72-76 inch bed.

I would think you would be very enthusiastic about UA having a 7 abreast premium economy. 7 abreast on a 787 is wider than 7 abreast on an A330. 787s tend to be more spacious for first and business than the A330 amd less spacious in economy.
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:42 pm

jumbojet wrote:
qf789 wrote:
The seat map for the upcoming 787-10 for United Airlines has been leaked.

In total it will have 318 seats

44 Polaris seats
21 Premium Economy
45 Economy Plus
208 Regular Economy

https://www.ausbt.com.au/united-s-boein ... ource=hero


This is where UA takes a leap forward over DL (not sure about AA's seat map). DL's 350's and soon to be refurbished 777's will NOT have economy plus. That really screws the top elites that don't want to pay for business class or premium economy. The only option is a standard coach seat. I give UA props for this, very well thought out and very well done.


Sounds more like what business class was 30 or 40 years ago.
 
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Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:25 pm

Newbiepilot wrote:
keesje wrote:
[url]The Premium Plus experience will include wider seats with more recline and legroom, with United also promising "upgraded dining on china dinnerware, free alcoholic beverages, a Saks Fifth Avenue blanket and pillow, an amenity kit and more."[/url]

Image

I think they might be overspecifying here a bit. Polaris cubicles don't look too inviting, flights up to 8 hours..
:point: I can see UA having second thoughts soon..

I see they do the sharp corners everywhere too. Genius :shakehead:


Have you ever actually sat in the Polaris Business Class seat? Given the staggered nature, the seating is either 4 across or 8 across depending on how you do the math. Most of the newer business class designs are about 44 inches between rows where the footwell of one row is squeezed between other seats allowing for a 72-76 inch bed.

I would think you would be very enthusiastic about UA having a 7 abreast premium economy. 7 abreast on a 787 is wider than 7 abreast on an A330. 787s tend to be more spacious for first and business than the A330 amd less spacious in economy.


I think the Premium Plus looks very good, so good United risks many passengers will downgrade from Polaris into Premium Plus and save money, specially on the 787-10 that will most do flights < 8 hrs, e.g. S America and TATL. That's why I used the term overspecified.

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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:28 pm

318 seats - impressive. I thought they would be 30-40 seats more than the B789, like their B789 has about 30 seats more than the B788.

Why not just go for 2-4-2 seating at 34 inch pitch in E+ instead of having both PE and 3-3-3 E+?
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:32 pm

flyingclrs727 wrote:
jumbojet wrote:
qf789 wrote:
The seat map for the upcoming 787-10 for United Airlines has been leaked.

In total it will have 318 seats

44 Polaris seats
21 Premium Economy
45 Economy Plus
208 Regular Economy

https://www.ausbt.com.au/united-s-boein ... ource=hero


This is where UA takes a leap forward over DL (not sure about AA's seat map). DL's 350's and soon to be refurbished 777's will NOT have economy plus. That really screws the top elites that don't want to pay for business class or premium economy. The only option is a standard coach seat. I give UA props for this, very well thought out and very well done.


Sounds more like what business class was 30 or 40 years ago.


Try 10-15 years ago!
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:44 pm

Wow, Premium Plus looks really nice.Will be interesting to see how it prices out. I think the hard core business traveler will still book Polaris over PP though. If the price is right, UA will get main cabin travelers to pony up for the much nicer PP product. Over all I see this as a win for UA.
 
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Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:47 pm

What is interesting is that Singapore Airlines has only 36 Regional business Class seats in the space United has 44 Polaris Business seats.
 
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:55 pm

There actually needs to be 3 levels of coach? Why?
 
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Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:06 am

For comparison, this is 12 more seats than Delta has on their A359, all of which are lie-flat Js (44 vs 32) and with a bigger PE component (21W + 45E vs 48W), that's materially more capacity on the 787-10 right there.
 
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Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:37 am

keesje wrote:
Newbiepilot wrote:
keesje wrote:
[url]The Premium Plus experience will include wider seats with more recline and legroom, with United also promising "upgraded dining on china dinnerware, free alcoholic beverages, a Saks Fifth Avenue blanket and pillow, an amenity kit and more."[/url]

Image

I think they might be overspecifying here a bit. Polaris cubicles don't look too inviting, flights up to 8 hours..
:point: I can see UA having second thoughts soon..

I see they do the sharp corners everywhere too. Genius :shakehead:


Have you ever actually sat in the Polaris Business Class seat? Given the staggered nature, the seating is either 4 across or 8 across depending on how you do the math. Most of the newer business class designs are about 44 inches between rows where the footwell of one row is squeezed between other seats allowing for a 72-76 inch bed.

I would think you would be very enthusiastic about UA having a 7 abreast premium economy. 7 abreast on a 787 is wider than 7 abreast on an A330. 787s tend to be more spacious for first and business than the A330 amd less spacious in economy.


I think the Premium Plus looks very good, so good United risks many passengers will downgrade from Polaris into Premium Plus and save money, specially on the 787-10 that will most do flights < 8 hrs, e.g. S America and TATL. That's why I used the term overspecified.

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UA has 44 business seats on the 787-10 compared to 48 on the smaller 787-9. They already adjusted seat counts, so why is it still overspecified?
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Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:38 am

JustSomeDood wrote:
For comparison, this is 12 more seats than Delta has on their A359, all of which are lie-flat Js (44 vs 32) and with a bigger PE component (21W + 45E vs 48W), that's materially more capacity on the 787-10 right there.


Probably because the -10 is a larger aircraft.
 
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Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:41 am

Newbiepilot wrote:
keesje wrote:
Newbiepilot wrote:

Have you ever actually sat in the Polaris Business Class seat? Given the staggered nature, the seating is either 4 across or 8 across depending on how you do the math. Most of the newer business class designs are about 44 inches between rows where the footwell of one row is squeezed between other seats allowing for a 72-76 inch bed.

I would think you would be very enthusiastic about UA having a 7 abreast premium economy. 7 abreast on a 787 is wider than 7 abreast on an A330. 787s tend to be more spacious for first and business than the A330 amd less spacious in economy.


I think the Premium Plus looks very good, so good United risks many passengers will downgrade from Polaris into Premium Plus and save money, specially on the 787-10 that will most do flights < 8 hrs, e.g. S America and TATL. That's why I used the term overspecified.

Image


UA has 44 business seats on the 787-10 compared to 48 on the smaller 787-9. They already adjusted seat counts, so why is it still overspecified?


I think the Premium Plus looks very good, so good United risks many passengers will downgrade from Polaris into Premium Plus and save money, specially on the 787-10 that will most do flights < 8 hrs, e.g. S America and TATL. That's why I used the term overspecified.
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keesje wrote:
Newbiepilot wrote:
keesje wrote:

I think the Premium Plus looks very good, so good United risks many passengers will downgrade from Polaris into Premium Plus and save money, specially on the 787-10 that will most do flights < 8 hrs, e.g. S America and TATL. That's why I used the term overspecified.

Image


UA has 44 business seats on the 787-10 compared to 48 on the smaller 787-9. They already adjusted seat counts, so why is it still overspecified?


I think the Premium Plus looks very good, so good United risks many passengers will downgrade from Polaris into Premium Plus and save money, specially on the 787-10 that will most do flights < 8 hrs, e.g. S America and TATL. That's why I used the term overspecified.


The 787-10 has 66 more seats than the 787-9. That is a huge CASM difference since the extra seats are economy. How many business class seats do you think UA should have installed? The 787-10 will have the lowest proportion of business class seats (13%) of any of UAs long haul airplanes except the 757.
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:55 am

There are not three levels of coach - that's a mistake on the OP's part. It's is not called Premium Economy, it's called Premium Plus. It actually makes a lot of sense.
 
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Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:00 am

I won’t believe it’s at ORD until I see it at ORD.
 
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Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:04 am

DL’s business class cabins seem to be shrinking in number of seats. UA’s business class on the 787-10 is relatively large in comparison.

Does UA sell or giveaway (ie, upgrades) more J seats than DL? Or is this a multi-year transition now that F is going away, leading UA to eventually go to a smaller J cabin?
 
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What is interesting is that Singapore Airlines has only 36 Regional business Class seats in the space United has 44 Polaris Business seats.


Singapore Airlines puts extra lavatories in spaces which are occupied by the Polaris seats on the UA configuration. In addition, SQ's regional business product is based on Stelia Solstys 3, which is less dense than the Polaris/Herringline/Optima design.
 
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DL’s business class cabins seem to be shrinking in number of seats. UA’s business class on the 787-10 is relatively large in comparison.

Does UA sell or giveaway (ie, upgrades) more J seats than DL? Or is this a multi-year transition now that F is going away, leading UA to eventually go to a smaller J cabin?


Historically UA was serving airports that have higher premium demand. SFO and ORD have higher premium cabin transpacific demand than DLs hubs. UA has demand for more transpacific premium seats and therefore has more premium seats in their planes. One example is that UA has much more service to HKG than DL, which is one of the hardest routes to get an upgrade on. 15 years ago UA had 73 business and 14 first class seats on 747s and 49 business and 12 first on 777s. UA has been cutting premium seats with each new configuration.

LHR and FRA were major destinations in Europe for UA compared to AMS and CDG for DL. Things have equaled out recently. If you look at UA vs DLs 767s on the European trunk routes, they have about the same number of business class seats.
 
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:19 am

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What missions are the 787-10s being used for? TATL?


That seems to be the assumption, high-volume TATL routes.

I believe there is also good speculation they'll run them on high-volume routes to South America as well.

With that being said, they'll likely be based at EWR and IAD.
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:26 am

I sure hope we see premium economy on some trans-continental flights. Ie...SFO/LAX - EWR/IAD....it would sure make convenient red-eye flights more bearable.
 
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:41 am

FA9295 wrote:
dmstorm22 wrote:
lostsound wrote:
What missions are the 787-10s being used for? TATL?


That seems to be the assumption, high-volume TATL routes.

I believe there is also good speculation they'll run them on high-volume routes to South America as well.

With that being said, they'll likely be based at EWR and IAD.


I won't be surprised if they put these at SFO to do TPAC volume routes to NRT, ICN, and even PEK. Those are ~5000nm or less sector lengths, akin to what DL flys TPAC from their SEA hub using 763s all the time. It'd be either a significant upguage at little trip cost (789) or a downguage with big trip cost decreases (77W) from the planes UA is flying on those routes now. Freeing them up on longer/thinner routes where their capabilities are more needed.
 
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Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:01 am

dz09 wrote:
I tried the new Polaris recently on a flight from NRt to EWR and I must say I was not really impressed. The space appeared crowded and I felt I was in a confined space to almost a claustrophobic feeling. The cabin looked nice but the comfort wasn’t there. The current businessfirst seats feel more comfortable and more spacious I think.



If .there the same sea.t has Etihad has I will agree with you. I don’t like this seat claustrophobic unless you pick asle seat.

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