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Sindhuputra wrote:Unfortunately, many of us will pay tax that will get used to fund massive losses on these AI routes.
unrave wrote:Video of the first commercial flight landing at India's newest airport:
https://twitter.com/MoCA_GoI/status/1047804767810936832
binayak wrote:BOM FRA was good choice given the connections at FRA which is a star alliance hub.
binayak wrote:BLR LHR : The route has PDEW 297 and thus is clearly underserved with only one flight daily (BA). However AI will require good amount of connections at LHR end to make it work well because I doubt how much local feed AI can get at BLR. I hope they code share with UA this time .
binayak wrote:That would interesting if they codeshared with UA. Hopefully, this makes BA upgrade the old busted planes they use on this route.BLR LHR : The route has PDEW 297 and thus is clearly underserved with only one flight daily (BA). However AI will require good amount of connections at LHR end to make it work well because I doubt how much local feed AI can get at BLR. I hope they code share with UA this time .
Sindhuputra wrote:Unfortunately, many of us will pay tax that will get used to fund massive losses on these AI routes.
A few questions:
a) AI has repeatedly said that the BOM-EWR route is its single biggest loss maker (over 500M USD lost over 10 years)..why would JFK suddenly work, with the same type of equipment (300 ER)?
b) LHR-BLR PDEW is 297 but is does already have a flight which captures some of it + the ME3. unless thy scale down to use a A 321 (:) not happening) not sure why they will be able to fill 250 seats
c) BKK is soon to be a bloodbath.
on another note- BKK used to be a great bisector hub for IC in the days long gone and SIN/HKG and the BKK terminators all did well. I reckon some indian carrier should set up a bisector somewhere in SE Asia (indogo?) to handle the sheer no of india tourists who need to touch BKK/KUL/SIN/DPS and increasingly HKT and HCMC.
first post-last time I almost posted was the morning when MH370 vanished. knew of it 40 mins before the first post appeared on this forum but could not activate my account ...
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Nimish wrote:Except that I'm not sure if AI and LH/ UA actually do much of passenger exchange at FRA. Other than IROP - where LH is happy to send you on an AI flight, the A++ JV ensures that UA/ LH/ AC stay clear of AI metal.
Again - UA is tied into the A+ JV and has almost nothing to do with AI. Even today (a couple of years after AI joined *A), when you buy a UA ticket on BLR-BOM/DEL-EWR - the domestic sector is 9W and not AI.
voxkel wrote:The rumour is that AI will deploy 77L on BOM-JFK, and upgrade DEL-SFO to 77W.
Wikipedia (not a reliable source IK) claims BOM-JFK will be a 6-time per week 77L.
unnayan wrote:
unrave wrote:unnayan wrote:
A fine example of how numerically challenged Indian journalists are. $35m is Rs. 250 crore, or 18 days of losses for Jet. Hardly a lifeline or bailout.
yashk wrote:Outside of DEL/BOM, AI should just stick to NB international routes like BKK/SIN etc. I wonder if BLR-LHR is being considered out of pure commercial reasons or is there some political force behind it. I am sure strengthening their DEL hub would provide much better network effects and once they have it completely set up they can look towards starting routes like BLR/AMD-LHR.
Few ideas how AI can better utilize a 787- Expand its Australia operations by making existing SYD/MEL flights daily and then also starting:
AI 304 0215 DEL - SYD 1910 788 137
AI 303 2330 SYD - DEL 0830+1 788 137
This way AI can provide connections both ways to its large European network.
yashk wrote:Outside of DEL/BOM, AI should just stick to NB international routes like BKK/SIN etc. I wonder if BLR-LHR is being considered out of pure commercial reasons or is there some political force behind it. I am sure strengthening their DEL hub would provide much better network effects and once they have it completely set up they can look towards starting routes like BLR/AMD-LHR.
pushpakvimaan wrote:Did Air India change their business class seats afterall ? There was quite a media event around launch of New "Maharaja" class. No photographs of new seats were ever shared.
VTORD wrote:AI closing LHR-EWR bookings:
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -nov-2018/
Irehdna wrote:VTORD wrote:AI closing LHR-EWR bookings:
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -nov-2018/
New Jersey to Gujarat is too large and loyal of a market to ignore IMO. Additionally, I am not so sure they can maintain AMD-LHR without EWR.
What are the possibilities they are just working a schedule to start BLR-LHR-EWR or BOM-LHR-EWR (which would still connect well for AMD-LHR at LHR)?
Irehdna wrote:
What are the possibilities they are just working a schedule to start BLR-LHR-EWR or BOM-LHR-EWR (which would still connect well for AMD-LHR at LHR)?
VTORD wrote:Irehdna wrote:
What are the possibilities they are just working a schedule to start BLR-LHR-EWR or BOM-LHR-EWR (which would still connect well for AMD-LHR at LHR)?
Where is the slot going to come from at LHR? Looks like they used the LHR-EWR slot for BLR-LHR. I would say they are better off shifting the 191/144 EWR tag-on from DEL to AMD and restart BOM-BDQ if the idea is to serve the Gujarati diaspora in Jersey. I am not sure how 9W, 6E are able to support multiple BDQ-BOM per day and AI hasn't thought of returning. No idea what their service to STV is like though.
avier wrote:
So, by launching this new BLR long haul from where literally none of their long hauls operate and having no base for the long haul crew there, I don't understand why they chose to start this new route to LHR. They could have stuck to their earlier plans of launching the second frequency from BOM to LHR instead. Or probably added a new frequency from DEL.
Also what feed do they have on either side to support this flight? Their network and frequency for domestic flights at BLR isn't that big. Are they purely relying on O&D for this sector? Seems like a bold move if they are.
They could have stuck to their logic in line with their new directive and launched this new long haul from their respective crew/MX hubs for long hauls basically.
I have seriously no hopes for this airline.
Bhadra wrote:Indigo to introduce flights to Male (effective Nov 15th) from Bangalore, Kochi and Mumbai.
unrave wrote:Poor GoAir can't catch a break.
avier wrote:So they've announced dates and schedule officially for their Male & Phuket Launch-
6E 1778 Bengaluru-Male 15-Nov-18 2x weekly
6E 1795 Kochi-Male 15-Nov-18 7x weekly
6E 1783 Mumbai-Male 16-Nov-18 5x weekly
6E 1764 Phuket Delhi 23-Nov-18 6x weekly
Bhadra wrote:In other news, COO of GoAir has called it quits.
https://www.financialexpress.com/indust ... r/1339464/
Bhadra wrote:In other news, COO of GoAir has called it quits.
https://www.financialexpress.com/indust ... r/1339464/
BOMFlyer wrote:Both Flightradar24 and Flightaware are showing LY074 near the Persian/Arabian Gulf right now. Does anyone know why this is showing?
More than 7.5 lakh passengers have travelled on 15,700 flights operated under the government’s regional air connectivity scheme (RCS) in the last 17 months after the scheme became operational. Of the 7.5-lakh passengers, 4.5 lakh received subsidised air fares, which are being offered under UDAN, the government initiative to make air travel to India’s tier II and tier III cities affordable to the common man.
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The latest figures released by the Airports Authority of India, which manages the scheme, shows that the eight airlines, which are participating in the scheme, showed an average passenger load factor of 68 per cent on all the flights operated under the scheme.
Passenger load factor shows how many of the seats on offer by airlines are filled. A total of 96 routes, including the Delhi-Shimla route, come under the scheme.
unrave wrote:Surat Airport crosses 100,000 passenger traffic for the first time in September 2018. The traffic was just 13,000 in September 2016!
unrave wrote:Surat Airport crosses 100,000 passenger traffic for the first time in September 2018. The traffic was just 13,000 in September 2016!
unrave wrote:A feature on how IndiGo has been ruthless in going after rival airlines' new routes, including the recent MLE and HKT launches.
https://www.cnbctv18.com/aviation/this- ... 040531.htm