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Mon May 07, 2018 5:06 am

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I’m actually surprised 9W can’t make F work on certain routes (I think they need 4 seats not 8 in F). Flights to say the US are so long, I would imagine that very senior executives would qualify for F. To me all BOM-LHR flights plus BOM-CDG (because AF has F to connect to) and maybe BOM-HKG. Maybe it’s not worth having a small sub fleet with F. If 9W does get rid of F, I really think they need a premium Econ. Even three rows would be fine.

The problem was that when 9W had launched F they were not so well known and by the time they could gain good brand recognition worldwide thanks to Skyteam their F product had already become 10 years old....too late to advertise. Moreover most of their F pax travelled in their J too which gave them a better reason to remove F. Lets see their new J product in 2020. Vinay Dube hinted that it will be modern and world class just like their current J was in 2007. Hope for the best.
Talking about premium economy even I agree atleast 3 rows can be added. They will remove F along with the F lavatory and the galley behind it. So they will have a lot of space and can easily reach their target of 400 pax by adding 3 rows of 8 abreast Y+ and 4 rows of 10 abreast Y.
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Air Asia India launches Surat

I51476 BLR1630 - 1830STV
I51475 STV1900 - 2110BLR

Flights daily effective 01JUN
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Tue May 08, 2018 2:48 pm

The long haul moods of Indigo has risen again. Hadn't they sought govt approval before?
https://www.fortuneindia.com/enterprise ... s-2/101839

Well I don't know whether the journalist has even read what he has written . I'll bet you'll laugh reading these
It is not clear how IndiGo plans to stay low-cost on international flights after it inducts Boeing aircraft such as the Dreamliner and 747s in its fleet for these locations.

LOL :lol:

The official said the carrier will look at the business model adopted by other low-cost foreign carriers, such as Norwegian Air, that offers low fares for long-haul destinations.

Does Indigo even know that Norwegian operates mostly point to point long haul routes as against the hub and spoke system they are planning? Looks like @bawlibooch 's predictions might turn out to be true.
Well even fortune India doubts the viability of Indigo's remaining low cost once they fly long haul.
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Tue May 08, 2018 4:16 pm

Well If Indigo takes the A330neo and starts flights to Europe starting at Rs. 30,000 then well it will be great for Budget travellers.
 
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Tue May 08, 2018 4:51 pm

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Air Asia India launches Surat

I51476 BLR1630 - 1830STV
I51475 STV1900 - 2110BLR

Flights daily effective 01JUN


Interesting that they threw their hat in the ring starting with STV. Make's sense since it is underserved.

Shaping up for a future Air Asia/Spice Jet battle.
 
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WOW Air has scheduled a press conference on May 15 to announce the beginning of its Indian operations!
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Wed May 09, 2018 6:31 am

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WOW Air has scheduled a press conference on May 15 to announce the beginning of its Indian operations!

So there is KEF DEL on the cards ?
here is another article
https://www.forbes.com/sites/martinrive ... 32fe467b5a
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https://twitter.com/airplusnews/status/ ... 1090705408

Translation: "WOW Air will announce the start of its operations between Reykjavik and New Delhi on May 15.
Objective: To make Iceland a strategic hub between the United States and India/Asia."
 
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Wed May 09, 2018 1:51 pm

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WOW Air has scheduled a press conference on May 15 to announce the beginning of its Indian operations!
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This is great news. Iceland is a wonderful hub to North America. I would certainly consider flying WoW. I can only hope their Network to India grows quickly.

What is the bilateral limit?

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Wed May 09, 2018 2:16 pm

IndiGo to connect Trichy with Bengaluru and Kochi from June.

https://www.economictimes.com/industry/ ... ssion=true
 
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Wed May 09, 2018 2:41 pm

While Norwegian is leading the p2p assault across the N. Atlantic, Wow air has quietly built a hub on top the world. Ironically, Iceland Air pioneered this using 757, mainly as N. America - Europe. Wow, with its A330's, seems to be taking it to the next level.

They have quiet a few spokes to N. America. Time to extend some of them further east. Regardless, it appears that the ME3 may soon be relegated to a ME2.5 or even ME <2.
 
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Wed May 09, 2018 3:53 pm

KEF-DEL would be a great add, since most of the DEL-USA routes pass just above Iceland. With short connections, we can see several fastest one-stop routings happen through KEF.
 
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Wed May 09, 2018 3:56 pm

Also out of curiosity, does anybody see 9W launching BOM-FRA/PVG flights?

BOM-FRA is underserved (BLR sees more capacity), and 9W would break the *A monopoly on Germany to India. Additionally, for many S. Indian destinations, FRA-BOM-XXX on 9W could be more direct than FRA-DEL-XXX on AI. BOM-PVG I am shocked does not exist, since MU is SkyTeam, and Mumbai and Shanghai are two of the largest financial centres in the world. Both flights could be operated by the A332s that could get freed up when the 737MAX comes in.
 
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Wed May 09, 2018 4:05 pm

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Also out of curiosity, does anybody see 9W launching BOM-FRA/PVG flights?

BOM-FRA is underserved (BLR sees more capacity), and 9W would break the *A monopoly on Germany to India. Additionally, for many S. Indian destinations, FRA-BOM-XXX on 9W could be more direct than FRA-DEL-XXX on AI. BOM-PVG I am shocked does not exist, since MU is SkyTeam, and Mumbai and Shanghai are two of the largest financial centres in the world. Both flights could be operated by the A332s that could get freed up when the 737MAX comes in.

FRA on 9W is unlikely as they will like to work more with their JV partners at the moment. Anyways BOM & BLR both are currently getting the LH 748
BOM PVG is one of the routes 9W has been considering . There is currently a BOM DEL PVG ( AI 348) with the same aircraft all over so there exists a direct flight.
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Wed May 09, 2018 4:49 pm

I don't see 9W doing BOM to FRA, yeah I can see them doing BOM to PVG in the future.

Delhi to Iceland is great news. Lets see how much they price the tickets.
 
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Wed May 09, 2018 5:49 pm

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Also out of curiosity, does anybody see 9W launching BOM-FRA/PVG flights?

BOM-FRA is underserved (BLR sees more capacity), and 9W would break the *A monopoly on Germany to India. Additionally, for many S. Indian destinations, FRA-BOM-XXX on 9W could be more direct than FRA-DEL-XXX on AI. BOM-PVG I am shocked does not exist, since MU is SkyTeam, and Mumbai and Shanghai are two of the largest financial centres in the world. Both flights could be operated by the A332s that could get freed up when the 737MAX comes in.


BOM-PVG would complement the Europe-China service from KLM/AF.

More than BOM-FRA, BOM-MUC might attract the auto traffic. In fact, there might be more action in cities like Dusseldorf, Hanover, Dortmund, Sttuggart and such.

There is more to international travel than the usual IT stuff.
 
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Wed May 09, 2018 6:49 pm

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What is the bilateral limit?

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Unlimited seats/frequencies to any two points in India
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Wed May 09, 2018 6:53 pm

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IndiGo to connect Trichy with Bengaluru and Kochi from June.

https://www.economictimes.com/industry/ ... ssion=true


COK-TRZ-BLR-TRZ-COK rotation on ATR 72 starting 28JUN
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Thu May 10, 2018 12:27 pm

Get ready more deep discounted fares. India is likely to double China's seat entitlements in June.

http://wap.business-standard.com/articl ... 069_1.html
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Thu May 10, 2018 1:48 pm

spicejet trialled q400 at pakyong airport.
https://thenortheasttoday.com/sikkim-pm ... g-airport/
4500ft above sea level

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakyong_Airport
Seems to be a technically challenging airstrip to build.

News reports say the PM will inaugurate the airport in coming days.
 
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Thu May 10, 2018 1:52 pm

With the opening of Pakyong airport, all states in India will have at least one operational airport. Also interesting that Sikkim gets connected by air before rail.
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Thu May 10, 2018 2:06 pm

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With the opening of Pakyong airport, all states in India will have at least one operational airport. Also interesting that Sikkim gets connected by air before rail.


I din't know Sikkim din't have an Airport, din't darjeeling have an airport?
 
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Thu May 10, 2018 2:21 pm

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With the opening of Pakyong airport, all states in India will have at least one operational airport. Also interesting that Sikkim gets connected by air before rail.


I din't know Sikkim din't have an Airport, din't darjeeling have an airport?


Darjeeling is in West Bengal and its nearest airport is Bagdogra (~70km away)
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Sat May 12, 2018 3:35 am

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Get ready more deep discounted fares. India is likely to double China's seat entitlements in June.

http://wap.business-standard.com/articl ... 069_1.html

That's excellent ........so are there chances to see BOM PVG(non stop), BOM CAN, BLR PEK?
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Sat May 12, 2018 5:12 am

I think we might see BEG sometime in the future. Ever since the visa regime was suspended there were roughly 500 extra tourists visiting the country via one of the world hubs. On top of that, trade between Serbia and India has been rapidly expanding.
 
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Sat May 12, 2018 10:39 am

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Interesting that they threw their hat in the ring starting with STV. Make's sense since it is underserved. Shaping up for a future Air Asia/Spice Jet battle.


An AMD local newspaper said about a month ago that Indigo will start ops with 4 flights from STV, just as soon as it gets more NEOs. Surat is almost as big a city as Ahmedabad and has huge business traffic too. Be interesting too see if BDQ will get less busy if STV gets completely connected. Lots of BDQ pax go on to Surat as it used to be the closest airport .
 
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I think we might see BEG sometime in the future. Ever since the visa regime was suspended there were roughly 500 extra tourists visiting the country via one of the world hubs. On top of that, trade between Serbia and India has been rapidly expanding.


But you know many tourists are being deported from the airport who even have the right papers, people who already had a UK/US/Schengen Visa before are being preferred otherwise you get questioned for 2 hours and then denied entry.

I don't blame them, many Indians do go like that and stay illegally, but its better to take a visa for Serbia before rather than facing so much humiliation, similar thing is happening in Georgia too with Indians.
 
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Sat May 12, 2018 12:49 pm

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Blerg wrote:
I think we might see BEG sometime in the future. Ever since the visa regime was suspended there were roughly 500 extra tourists visiting the country via one of the world hubs. On top of that, trade between Serbia and India has been rapidly expanding.


But you know many tourists are being deported from the airport who even have the right papers, people who already had a UK/US/Schengen Visa before are being preferred otherwise you get questioned for 2 hours and then denied entry.

I don't blame them, many Indians do go like that and stay illegally, but its better to take a visa for Serbia before rather than facing so much humiliation, similar thing is happening in Georgia too with Indians.


I think tour operators would have the same approach as with Iranians. They make sure those that do arrive are not planning on overstaying their welcome. Mind you, in the first month when direct flights were introduced, close to 2.100 Iranian tourists visited the country. Both Serbian and Indian governments are working on deepening ties so I wouldn't rule anything out. Not to mention that an Indian tour operator contacted JU offering them a deal to bring 1.000 Indian tourists to Serbia every week.

It's a shame JU isn't in a better shape otherwise they could have launched DEL and code-shared with Jet Airways.
 
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Sat May 12, 2018 10:31 pm

I thought Jetlite was dissolved and the aircrafts were transferred to the mainline?

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/in ... 098531.cms
 
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Sun May 13, 2018 1:44 am

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Also interesting that Sikkim gets connected by air before rail.


For an exclusively mountainous state as Sikkim that fact is nothing surprising. It is much much more expensive to build railway line through that terrain. Not only is the terrain rough, but the fact that there is heavy rainfall with frequent landslides and earthquakes which make building particularly demanding.
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Sun May 13, 2018 4:19 am

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WOW Air has scheduled a press conference on May 15 to announce the beginning of its Indian operations!
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Great news. Interesting to see how WOW will do.
It may be a low price to the US but the typical India/US price-sensitive passengers may not prefer the additional cost for luggage and food. Maybe Ok for tourists on a short visit.
Europe could be a good fit but will need to do a significant backtrack to several Europen cities.

I believe this could be a preemptive move by WOW and establish it before Indigo starts a Low cost to Europe.
 
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I thought Jetlite was dissolved and the aircrafts were transferred to the mainline?

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/in ... 098531.cms


They can sell the AOC to others anyway having moved all the flights and employees to mainline.
 
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They can sell the AOC to others anyway having moved all the flights and employees to mainline.


That's not true, a small no of flights are still operated by Jetlite. The evening BOM-CJB-BOM rotation, for eg. S2 still has ~1.5% market share
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Air India is having difficulty making LHR - EWR work.
Cheapest fare is always on Air India. I am sure if Air India (better managed) improves their economy and business product, they can get a higher fare
 
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Interesting that they threw their hat in the ring starting with STV. Make's sense since it is underserved. Shaping up for a future Air Asia/Spice Jet battle.


An AMD local newspaper said about a month ago that Indigo will start ops with 4 flights from STV, just as soon as it gets more NEOs. Surat is almost as big a city as Ahmedabad and has huge business traffic too. Be interesting too see if BDQ will get less busy if STV gets completely connected. Lots of BDQ pax go on to Surat as it used to be the closest airport .


Great for STV that it is now recognizing the demand and aligning capacity to that.

Regarding BDQ and it diverting traffic from Surat, IMHO this is some spam from WWWAS. In effect BDQ has flights only to BOM and DEL. It is very unlikely Surti's drove to Baroda just to take flt to BOM. It is possible that that some DEL traffic from BDQ were Surti's. However, the STV-DEL flight has been operational for a while so the drop in numbers should have already been accounted by now.
 
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Air India is having difficulty making LHR - EWR work.
Cheapest fare is always on Air India. I am sure if Air India (better managed) improves their economy and business product, they can get a higher fare


Fifth freedom flights generally offer cheap fares. Goal is to fill empty seats. Last I checked few months back both AMD-LHR and LHR-EWR loads were good.
 
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Dholera airport ground-breaking this year

Work on the international airport at Dholera, about 100 km from Ahmedabad, is set to commence soon with a senior government official saying on Friday that groundbreaking ceremony of the proposed project is likely to take place this year itself. "All approvals for the Dholera airport are in place.

We have received approvals from ministry of defence and civil aviation.


https://www.nyoooz.com/news/ahmedabad/1109157/groundbreaking-of-airport-this-year-dholera-chief/
 
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Mon May 14, 2018 3:28 pm

Jet Airways to connect Bengaluru with Tiruchy(TRZ) Daily wef 1st JULY using ATR aircraft. Timings as below & Bookings open:-

9W3549 BLR 1800 1905 TRZ
9W3550 TRZ 0915 1025 BLR

Interestingly its almost at the same time 6E launches BLR TRZ. There's no airline serving this route as of today(correct me if im not wrong) seems like there's good demand on this market/sector.
 
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Mon May 14, 2018 3:35 pm

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Jet Airways to connect Bengaluru with Tiruchy(TRZ) Daily wef 1st JULY using ATR aircraft. Timings as below & Bookings open:-

9W3549 BLR 1800 1905 TRZ
9W3550 TRZ 0915 1025 BLR

Interestingly its almost at the same time 6E launches BLR TRZ. There's no airline serving this route as of today(correct me if im not wrong) seems like there's good demand on this market/sector.

Indigo is trying to break 9W's near monopoly at TRZ.
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Mon May 14, 2018 3:38 pm

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Air India is having difficulty making LHR - EWR work.
Cheapest fare is always on Air India. I am sure if Air India (better managed) improves their economy and business product, they can get a higher fare


Better yet just cancel this LHR-EWR flight. When you are competing with UA/BA/VS with their premium loyalty pax on the route, you are only going to drain money. AI should have just done AMD-DEL-EWR or AMD-BOM-EWR flight instead of AMD-LHR-EWR. And I am sceptical that even AMD-LHR is doing well these days.
 
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pushpakvimaan wrote:
Air India is having difficulty making LHR - EWR work.
Cheapest fare is always on Air India. I am sure if Air India (better managed) improves their economy and business product, they can get a higher fare


Better yet just cancel this LHR-EWR flight. When you are competing with UA/BA/VS with their premium loyalty pax on the route, you are only going to drain money. AI should have just done AMD-DEL-EWR or AMD-BOM-EWR flight instead of AMD-LHR-EWR. And I am sceptical that even AMD-LHR is doing well these days.


There are statements made by AI officials to news outlets indicating that all US operations except the AMD-LHR-EWR one are profitable. To a certain extent even DEL-LHR-EWR might work better than the current routing. This flight and ATQ-BHX just make AI privatization all the more necessary. Its funny how all the x,y,z cities in India feel entitled to direct flights. And what is worse is that one city gets it others cry fowl that if they can get it why cant we.
 
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Dholera airport ground-breaking this year

Work on the international airport at Dholera, about 100 km from Ahmedabad, is set to commence soon with a senior government official saying on Friday that groundbreaking ceremony of the proposed project is likely to take place this year itself. "All approvals for the Dholera airport are in place.

We have received approvals from ministry of defence and civil aviation.


https://www.nyoooz.com/news/ahmedabad/1109157/groundbreaking-of-airport-this-year-dholera-chief/


Looking at the map, Dholera looks like a small town almost equidistant from Bhavnagar, Baroda and Ahmedabad. What's the rationale behind placing an international airport there?
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Looking at the map, Dholera looks like a small town almost equidistant from Bhavnagar, Baroda and Ahmedabad. What's the rationale behind placing an international airport there?


Your question has most of your answer. I will take liberty to supplement a few more cities: Anand/Nadiad (~70 km), Rajkot (~200 km) and if you start a water taxi, Surat downtown around 1 hr away.

Ahmedabad is close to saturation. With the advent of ME3, lot of traffic from the surrounding area's drive to AMD. Dholera is singularly at the center of most of Gujarat population centers.

In addition, Dholera SIR is in development. One should view this as something as ambitious Singapore & development of Changi. Only the question of execution now.
 
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Looking at the map, Dholera looks like a small town almost equidistant from Bhavnagar, Baroda and Ahmedabad. What's the rationale behind placing an international airport there?


Your question has most of your answer. I will take liberty to supplement a few more cities: Anand/Nadiad (~70 km), Rajkot (~200 km) and if you start a water taxi, Surat downtown around 1 hr away.

Ahmedabad is close to saturation. With the advent of ME3, lot of traffic from the surrounding area's drive to AMD. Dholera is singularly at the center of most of Gujarat population centers.

In addition, Dholera SIR is in development. One should view this as something as ambitious Singapore & development of Changi. Only the question of execution now.


Well, going by that logic, we need just one airport per state, at the central/equidistant point from all population centres. Unfortunately, things don't work like that in the real world. When you say Ahmedabad is approaching saturation, I assume you mean the terminal? There's no way Ahmedabad is getting saturated in terms of aircraft movements, even accounting for general aviation. I'm happy to be corrected on this, but it seems counterproductive to build an airport equally inconvenient for everyone instead of improving capacity at Baroda, Surat, Bhavnagar etc. For the record, I don't buy the "as ambitious as Singapore/Changi" argument, because I'd rather wait for the promises to the SIR to start bearing fruit than put the cart before the horse on the basis of some politicians' promises.
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vadodara wrote:
sturmovik wrote:
Looking at the map, Dholera looks like a small town almost equidistant from Bhavnagar, Baroda and Ahmedabad. What's the rationale behind placing an international airport there?


Your question has most of your answer. I will take liberty to supplement a few more cities: Anand/Nadiad (~70 km), Rajkot (~200 km) and if you start a water taxi, Surat downtown around 1 hr away.

Ahmedabad is close to saturation. With the advent of ME3, lot of traffic from the surrounding area's drive to AMD. Dholera is singularly at the center of most of Gujarat population centers.

In addition, Dholera SIR is in development. One should view this as something as ambitious Singapore & development of Changi. Only the question of execution now.


Well, going by that logic, we need just one airport per state, at the central/equidistant point from all population centres. Unfortunately, things don't work like that in the real world. When you say Ahmedabad is approaching saturation, I assume you mean the terminal? There's no way Ahmedabad is getting saturated in terms of aircraft movements, even accounting for general aviation. I'm happy to be corrected on this, but it seems counterproductive to build an airport equally inconvenient for everyone instead of improving capacity at Baroda, Surat, Bhavnagar etc. For the record, I don't buy the "as ambitious as Singapore/Changi" argument, because I'd rather wait for the promises to the SIR to start bearing fruit than put the cart before the horse on the basis of some politicians' promises.


Actually, Gujarati's are provided options by the neta's and babu's offer that always seem to range in degree of inconvenience. Afterall, all them have an agenda to overstaff the agencies, airlines and so forth with people from their own states.

AMD is growing at roughly 20-25% in the last 5 yrs or so. If anything, it is growing faster than the overall growth. If there has been a 'dip' in traffic, it has been due to the construction on the runway. If you look at capital projects, you need to forecast for next 5, 10, 30 yrs and so forth. If it is not saturated today, it will be in next 5 yrs. There are additional 7-8 active airports, viz. Vadodara, Rajkot, Bhavanagar, Diu, Porbandar, Surat and so forth. In addition, neither Anand/Nadiad have airports.

There is no way all of these cities can support expansion or proper growth. One way to resolve this is to pool the resource and create a central location. My understanding that MEGA will be extended to Dholera. In addition, the HSR can be extended to Dholera and perhaps Rajkot. This would create a catchment area ranging from Bharuch to Rajkot. As I mentioned, Surat can be connected with a ferry for a v. short ride. A bigger metro area than Mumbai or Delhi.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)

Tue May 15, 2018 2:11 am

Isn't there a rule in India not allowing two commercial airports within 150 km? Bangalore's old HAL airport and Hyderabad's VOHY(BPM) were forced to close commercial operations. That rule not applicable to scammers.
 
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Tue May 15, 2018 7:31 am

IndiGo to add following pre-loved A320ceo:
MSN 2097 Airbus A320-232 VT-IHW IndiGo Y180 Due Planned A7-ADF lsf Castlelake
MSN 2121 Airbus A320-232 VT-IHU IndiGo Y180 Due Planned A7-ADG lsf Castlelake
MSN 2388 Airbus A320-214 VT-IHT IndiGo Y180 Due Planned EC-JFF lsf Wings Capital Partners
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Tue May 15, 2018 7:53 am

juliuswong wrote:
IndiGo to add following pre-loved A320ceo:
MSN 2097 Airbus A320-232 VT-IHW IndiGo Y180 Due Planned A7-ADF lsf Castlelake
MSN 2121 Airbus A320-232 VT-IHU IndiGo Y180 Due Planned A7-ADG lsf Castlelake
MSN 2388 Airbus A320-214 VT-IHT IndiGo Y180 Due Planned EC-JFF lsf Wings Capital Partners

Just read somewhere they are planning to increase fleet size to 200 by March'19 from current 160
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)

Tue May 15, 2018 8:03 am

anshabhi wrote:
juliuswong wrote:
IndiGo to add following pre-loved A320ceo:
MSN 2097 Airbus A320-232 VT-IHW IndiGo Y180 Due Planned A7-ADF lsf Castlelake
MSN 2121 Airbus A320-232 VT-IHU IndiGo Y180 Due Planned A7-ADG lsf Castlelake
MSN 2388 Airbus A320-214 VT-IHT IndiGo Y180 Due Planned EC-JFF lsf Wings Capital Partners

Just read somewhere they are planning to increase fleet size to 200 by March'19 from current 160

I won't be surprised, most of the A320neo now coming off the production lines are for them. Currently nine are being prepared.
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)

Tue May 15, 2018 10:04 am

So WoW Air has announced flights from Delhi to US via Iceland from 7th December with a base price starting from Rs. 27,000.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/bus ... 173305.cms

Iceland is on my list to go to places, even if it the price is Rs. 35,000 return with all inclusive just to Iceland then it will be great, but I will have to take a flight from Bombay to Delhi first and then change terminals unless I take Jet Airways or Indian Airlines or Vistara. So add maybe another 5 to 6,000 in that.

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