Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

rbavfan · Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:53 am

PanzerPowner wrote:
MNL? Give PAL a run for its money you know.

Low yield VFR

ha763 · Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:35 am

xcltflyboy wrote:
PlanesNTrains wrote:
Antarius wrote:

UA already announced SFO-PPT.

Yes but this is about LAX, AA, and a route never flown by a US carrier before. Whether LAX-PPT has had a nonstop on a US carrier before is the question.

Yes, that is the question. I don't know the answer. I simply tossed my guess into the ring with PPT. If a US carrier has, indeed, flown LAX - PPT before, then my guess isn't valid.

It was a charter, but HA used to fly LAX-PPT from 1999-2001 for Renaissance Cruises, who has been flying HNL-PPT since the 1980s. They had 2 specially configured DC-10-30s with 84 business and 172 coach seats. Occasionally, these 2 aircraft would be used as subs on LAX-OGG.

klm617 · Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:17 am

LAX-GRR

sq256 · Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:43 am

smi0006 wrote:
BNE? To replace capacity after QF moved BNE-LAX-JFK to a 789 from a 744.

Very unlikely at this stage considering QF is using the 3rd BNE based 789 on x3 extra BNE-LAX terminators on top of the daily BNE-LAX-JFK.

jfklganyc · Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:59 am

3 more flights to JFK to use up slots?

Sorry couldnt resists with the other threads flaring up

OA940 · Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:05 pm

Oh great not another one. I vote Athens or Kathmandu.

Pengaea · Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:48 pm

deltal1011man wrote:
Yes and no. CAN is Category 1 but CAN has either 7 or 14 frequencies carved out just for the use for CAN.

Good to know.

rbavfan wrote:
CTS has been served for some time by Hawaiian, FUK was served by HA & DL and currently DL fro HNL

Thanks for the clarification. Since that's the case, the <sarcasm>only plausible destination would be FNJ.</sarcasm>

Where is OP? Interesting how they created an account, made 1 post, and a.net goes berserk.

chepos · Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:50 pm

1x daily to TIJ!

LAXdude1023 · Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:57 pm

hz747300 wrote:
TLV? JED? RUH? EZE?

BKK would seem to be too long & low yielding. I'm trying to think of places that would have some yields.

AA wont fly to TLV from anywhere.

EZE is a terrible idea. Garbage yields from the West Coast and it would cannibalize the DFW flight since it gets a lot of its feed from California.

aa1818 · Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:02 pm

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1390037

One very well-known Argentinean aviation blogger posted last Wednesday 21MAR, that soon two new long-haul routes were to be announced from EZE.
The clues given were, Boeing aircraft (later specified Boeing 787-9), never flown before, one to start in July winter holidays (Southern hemisphere) and very controversial routes.

As you may see on the link, he posted yesterday that today (27MAR) the announcement would be made.

It seems as if these two would go together.
Cheers,
AA1818

LAXdude1023 · Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:22 pm

aa1818 wrote:
https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1390037
One very well-known Argentinean aviation blogger posted last Wednesday 21MAR, that soon two new long-haul routes were to be announced from EZE.
The clues given were, Boeing aircraft (later specified Boeing 787-9), never flown before, one to start in July winter holidays (Southern hemisphere) and very controversial routes.

As you may see on the link, he posted yesterday that today (27MAR) the announcement would be made.

It seems as if these two would go together.
Cheers,
AA1818

I guess there is the possibility that somewhere in AA route planning they are trying to make DFW-EZE unprofitable...

jfk777 · Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:24 pm

Since LAX is AA's Asia gateway Taipei looks promising. China Airlines moved one of two daily flights to Ontario and it has not been flown by a US airline since Northwest did with a 744 in the 1990's briefly. Seoul would be hard to believe since the two Korean airlines have lots of A380's on the route. Osaka would be by second guess since JAL flies only a 787 and no other airline flies it.

kiowa · Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:41 pm

chepos wrote:
1x daily to TIJ!

that is the rumor we have been hearing!

incitatus · Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:57 pm

MAH4546 wrote:
In addition to new LAX service, with Brazil picking up again in a major way, AA will be returning to some of the Brazilian markets it exited later this year. I would think Porto Alegre and Recife come first given the market size is largest from those two.

I would be so entirely surprised about that. Brazil is picking up but I do not believe it is an major way. Then you have the likes of Avianca, Gol and Azul flooding the US market - especially Florida, with a lot of capacity. I see the US-Brazil market headed for disaster with many of the routes announced this year cut in 2019, and no carrier in the market making money for 2-3 years until the impact of Free-skies is absorbed.

panam330 · Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:36 pm

My money's on EZE, CAN or BNE. Hoping especially for my third guess.

raylee67 · Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:10 pm

There are still many possibilities in Asia: based on the "first US carrier" clue, it can be Seoul, Taipei, Manila or even Osaka (although I doubt it would be KIX).

FSDan · Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:14 pm

I wouldn't be surprised to see LAX-EZE announced. That's really the last big hole in LAX-South America, and if any airline were able to make it work I think it would be AA. Perhaps winter seasonal only and less-than-daily, with the aircraft being reallocated to TATL flying in the summer?

hoons90 · Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:18 pm

raylee67 wrote:
There are still many possibilities in Asia: based on the "first US carrier" clue, it can be Seoul, Taipei, Manila or even Osaka (although I doubt it would be KIX).

NW, BN and I think UA have flown LA-Seoul in the past.

777PHX · Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:37 pm

So, wait. Is AA the first US airline to fly to this destination nonstop from *anywhere* in the US, or just the first to fly to this destination from LAX?

777PHX · Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:40 pm

panam330 wrote:
My money's on EZE, CAN or BNE. Hoping especially for my third guess.

If the wording in the original post is correct, EZE and BNE are already served by US airlines. EZE by several and BNE by HA.

LAXintl · Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:50 pm

Many of the above guesses have had US carrier LAX nonstop service previously.

Bueno Aires - flown briefly by UA 747SP.
Tahiti - flown by several over decades including Pan Am and later CO using DC-10s
Santiago - flown by Pan Am 747
Taipei - flown by Northwest on 744.
Osaka - Both Northwest and United
Seoul - Northwest and further back Braniff

49Paralell · Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:50 pm

My guess? New Delhi. Air Canada is flying it from YVR, I can see AA doing the same from LAX

SATexan · Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:02 pm

It's always fun to guess! My top 5

Guangzhou
Madrid
New Delhi
Nagoya
Perth

But knowing AA, we may have to settle for a 4 weekly LAX-TIJ :spin:

usssla · Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:17 pm

raylee67 wrote:
There are still many possibilities in Asia: based on the "first US carrier" clue, it can be Seoul, Taipei, Manila or even Osaka (although I doubt it would be KIX).

AA mentioned that the expansion to Asia pacific was completed last year. I guess this new destination will not be in Asia.

wenders825 · Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:19 pm

it's EZE. now when is this announcement???

EK006 · Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:22 pm

aa1818 wrote:
https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1390037
One very well-known Argentinean aviation blogger posted last Wednesday 21MAR, that soon two new long-haul routes were to be announced from EZE.
The clues given were, Boeing aircraft (later specified Boeing 787-9), never flown before, one to start in July winter holidays (Southern hemisphere) and very controversial routes.

As you may see on the link, he posted yesterday that today (27MAR) the announcement would be made.

It seems as if these two would go together.
Cheers,
AA1818

That seems to me it might be TLV-EZE rather than LAX-EZE

PatrickZ80 · Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:48 pm

Everyone here is focusing on Asia and South America, but what about Europe? There must be plenty of European destinations that were never served by an American airline from Los Angeles. It could just be Berlin Tegel. So far there aren't any flights between Los Angeles and Berlin, so there's a hole to be filled. Otherwise Warsaw, Prague and Budapest are also possibilities.

wenders825 · Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:50 pm

PatrickZ80 wrote:
Everyone here is focusing on Asia and South America, but what about Europe? There must be plenty of European destinations that were never served by an American airline from Los Angeles. It could just be Berlin Tegel. So far there aren't any flights between Los Angeles and Berlin, so there's a hole to be filled. Otherwise Warsaw, Prague and Budapest are also possibilities.

AA isn't going to fly something from Europe that they don't already fly from an east coast hub. KEF is a special exception as that flight is specifically to go after WW and FI.

if TXL can't maintain JFK service from LH its not going to get LAX service any time soon. WAW would be from PHL first, and I doubt PRG and BUD are getting doubled up just yet, and they would be from ORD or CLT long before LAX. AA doesn't even service LAX-CDG or LAX-MAD, two far stronger cities.

Flighty · Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:23 pm

How about LAX-Port Moresby, or LAX-Tashkent.

EK006 · Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:26 pm

49Paralell wrote:
My guess? New Delhi. Air Canada is flying it from YVR, I can see AA doing the same from LAX

AC has been successful from YVR due to low ME3 competition and ability to get transfer pax from cities like SEA and LAX. Also highly doubt AA would start LAX-DEL( ULH with low yields) before ORD-DEL or JFK-DEl, which have far larger O&D numbers.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1389091&p=20256141&hilit=american+american+airlines+hub#p20256141

Also the thread above stated that AA is not planning to Expand service to markets that don’t touch a hub or New hubs.

LupineChemist · Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:27 pm

wenders825 wrote:
PatrickZ80 wrote:
Everyone here is focusing on Asia and South America, but what about Europe? There must be plenty of European destinations that were never served by an American airline from Los Angeles. It could just be Berlin Tegel. So far there aren't any flights between Los Angeles and Berlin, so there's a hole to be filled. Otherwise Warsaw, Prague and Budapest are also possibilities.

AA isn't going to fly something from Europe that they don't already fly from an east coast hub. KEF is a special exception as that flight is specifically to go after WW and FI.

if TXL can't maintain JFK service from LH its not going to get LAX service any time soon. WAW would be from PHL first, and I doubt PRG and BUD are getting doubled up just yet, and they would be from ORD or CLT long before LAX. AA doesn't even service LAX-CDG or LAX-MAD, two far stronger cities.

I mean, AA is part of the TATL JV and there's IB service to MAD. Though I suppose it could go year round (I would use that a lot then). I think it's from a lack of aircraft on the IB side more than anything.

WingsOfLove · Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:29 pm

Sometimes rumors are just that, but I sure learned a lot. Like I didn't know United flew LAX-EZE or DFW is the 4th largest Thai population. Thanks guys.

DCAFlyer01 · Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:35 pm

AA to EZE Press Conference at 11 PST Very exciting!

AAPramugari14 · Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:42 pm

LAX-EZE 3x weekly!

WingsOfLove · Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:03 pm

AAPramugari14 wrote:
LAX-EZE 3x weekly!

Look who's back. Nice going AAflightattendant14 - lol

JFKPurser · Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:42 pm

I can confirm it's LAX-EZE. It will not be daily service, however. It's 3 x weekly, beginning December 19, 2018 on the 789.

runway23 · Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:50 pm

New AA Routes:

Route Aircraft Flights Begin
LAX-EZE Boeing 787-9 Dec. 19
DFW-OAX Embraer E175 Dec. 19
MIA-GEO Airbus A319 Dec. 20
MIA-PEI Airbus A319 Dec. 20
MIA-COR Boeing 767-300 Apr. 2, 2019

DanDun · Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:52 pm

American is also adding Miami to Georgetown, Guyana GEO, Pereira, Colombia PEI, Córdoba, Argentina COR and Dallas to Oaxaca, Mexico OEX. Cutting Belo Horizonte, CNF

FSDan · Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:05 pm

runway23 wrote:
New AA Routes:

Route Aircraft Flights Begin
LAX-EZE Boeing 787-9 Dec. 19
DFW-OAX Embraer E175 Dec. 19
MIA-GEO Airbus A319 Dec. 20
MIA-PEI Airbus A319 Dec. 20
MIA-COR Boeing 767-300 Apr. 2, 2019

Wow, cool stuff! Is there any sort of press release yet? I don't see anything on the website.

jersey777 · Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:12 pm

MAH4546 wrote:
In addition to new LAX service, with Brazil picking up again in a major way, AA will be returning to some of the Brazilian markets it exited later this year. I would think Porto Alegre and Recife come first given the market size is largest from those two.

Actually AA is doing just the opposite. They are decreasing service to Brazil. The daytime MIA-GRU flight ends in August while they are pulling out of CNF completely. Also, JFK-GIG is going seasonal and DFW-GIG will not be operating seasonally anymore.

MAH4546 · Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:14 pm

jersey777 wrote:
MAH4546 wrote:
In addition to new LAX service, with Brazil picking up again in a major way, AA will be returning to some of the Brazilian markets it exited later this year. I would think Porto Alegre and Recife come first given the market size is largest from those two.

Actually AA is doing just the opposite. They are decreasing service to Brazil. The daytime MIA-GRU flight ends in August while they are pulling out of CNF completely. Also, JFK-GIG is going seasonal and DFW-GIG will not be operating seasonally anymore.

Which is very surprising but also is going to be a major talking point in their case to get the LATAM JBA approved.

I suspect LATAM will announce MIA-CNF shortly.

Further, Avianca Brazil is adding a 2nd daily MIA-GRU in the winter.

WingsOfLove · Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:16 pm

FSDan wrote:
Wow, cool stuff! Is there any sort of press release yet? I don't see anything on the website.

Blown away.
http://news.aa.com/press-releases/press ... fault.aspx

zakuivcustom · Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:26 pm

That's quite a bit of expansion in their Lat. Am. network.

To start, the OP of this thread gets his/her wish, now that AA started MIA-GEO
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1385637

LAX-EZE is long overdue. It's crazy that there are absolutely zero connection from West Coast to Buenos Aires (with the furthest west being DFW).

Other than that, a little bit surprised by COR myself, but I guess no more PTY connection required now. PEI is filling in a missing dot in Colombia, especially since the only US flight from PEI right now is AV's PEI-CTG-JFK.

chepos · Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:32 pm

MIA COR is way overdue, LAX EZE makes no sense to me.

HNL · Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:33 pm

Remember AA has to fund some of the new Long Haul flying, and that will come at the expense of existing South America flying. LAX-GRU will reduce to 4x a week. MIA-GRU day flight drops.

There are two sides to every coin. AA does not like to talk about the dark side of the coin, just the shiny front side.

deebee278 · Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:35 pm

Y'all are thinking BIG. What if they're only planning to launch an RJ flight to Ensenada, MX or something of that sort?

HNL · Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:40 pm

deebee278 wrote:
Y'all are thinking BIG. What if they're only planning to launch an RJ flight to Ensenada, MX or something of that sort?

The press release is out, and included in this thread a few posts up. Ensenada did not make the cut.

wenders825 · Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:46 pm

deebee278 wrote:
Y'all are thinking BIG. What if they're only planning to launch an RJ flight to Ensenada, MX or something of that sort?

well, they announced LAX-EZE so yes, we were right in thinking big. they also did announce DFW-OAX and some other Mexico increases.

http://news.aa.com/press-releases/press ... fault.aspx

WingsOfLove · Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:58 pm

MAH4546 wrote:
Which is very surprising (reduced service to Brazil) but also is going to be a major talking point in their case to get the LATAM JBA approved

Very interesting POV. Totally plausible. Reducing service for a better chance of approval.

atcanobbio · Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:00 pm

one good sized Mexican city that lacks consistent service to the US is CUL. I wonder why any of the US3, especially AA, don't fly there.

I think Volaris might be only offering CUL-PHX/LAX a couple times a week.

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