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Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:07 am

Scant details as yet, but Airlive.net suggests the airline involved is 'US-Bangla Airlines':

"A US-Bangla airlines planed crashed at the east side of runway at of Kathmandu Tribhuvan International Airport."

http://www.airlive.net/breaking-plane-c ... ort-nepal/
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Crash at Kathmandu

Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:09 am

 
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Plane crash at Kathmandu airport.

Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:10 am

Breaking news.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-43369179

Hope for a good outcome.
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:18 am

US Bangla Q400... 17 year old airframe was departing for DAC round that time... S2-AGU
 
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:31 am

Third crash today....... What on earth is happening?
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:42 am

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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:42 am

LoganTheBogan wrote:
Third crash today....... What on earth is happening?

Which are the other two?
 
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:43 am

MalevTU134 wrote:
LoganTheBogan wrote:
Third crash today....... What on earth is happening?

Which are the other two?


Challenger 604 with 11 people crashed in Iran mountainside.
Helicopter crashes into East River, New York killing 5 of the 6 on board.
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:44 am

JoKeR wrote:
US Bangla Q400... 17 year old airframe was departing for DAC round that time... S2-AGU


Locally confirmed as a Q-400

Bombardier Dash Q-400 aircraft operated byUS-Bangla Airlines configured to carry 78 passengers skidded off the runway while landing at the Tribhuvan International Airport (TIA) Kathmandu Nepal on Monday.


https://twitter.com/njnpaudel/status/973125483800903681

There are also photos which confirm it is likely a Q400

https://twitter.com/amritna/status/973124613780787200

Initial reports say unstabilised approach, departed runway into adjacent field where it was involved in fire
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:53 am

https://www.rt.com/on-air/421022-nepal- ... h-airport/

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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:00 am

LoganTheBogan wrote:
MalevTU134 wrote:
LoganTheBogan wrote:
Third crash today....... What on earth is happening?

Which are the other two?


Challenger 604 with 11 people crashed in Iran mountainside.
Helicopter crashes into East River, New York killing 5 of the 6 on board.

Weren't those yesterday?
 
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:01 am

MalevTU134 wrote:
LoganTheBogan wrote:
MalevTU134 wrote:
Which are the other two?


Challenger 604 with 11 people crashed in Iran mountainside.
Helicopter crashes into East River, New York killing 5 of the 6 on board.

Weren't those yesterday?


I guess it depends on your timezone.
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:20 am

From this pictures this doesn't look good. I hope people were able to escape before the fire took hold.
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:21 am

Unstabilised approach was mentioned, I wonder if they touched down hard and had another one of the Q400 landing gear collapse situations.
 
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:24 am

20 people rescued so far from the 67+4 people on board:

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... du-446674/
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:44 am

JoKeR wrote:
US Bangla Q400... 17 year old airframe was departing for DAC round that time... S2-AGU


BBC is reporting that it is S2-AGU also.
 
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Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:13 am

Norwegian TV news are reporting 38 dead now.
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:55 am

There is a surreal ATC transcript available from LiveATC.net.
http://www.jacdec.de/2018/03/12/2018-03-18-us-bangla-dhc-8-400-crashed-on-landing-kathmandu/
 
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:07 pm

If that ATC transscript of LiveATC.net is true .... that's just unbelievable!

Source: JADEC
Please have a look to for detailed information: http://www.jacdec.de/2018/03/12/2018-03 ... kathmandu/

ATC Radio Transcript Kathmandu-Tower:

(Note: this transcript is inofficial and can contain inadequate data)

BS211(female voice): „Good day, BanglaStar211 final runway 02.“
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, tower. Wind 220 degrees eight knots, tailwind component seven knots, continue approach.“
BS211(female voice): „Continue approach BanglaStar 211.“
..
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, wind 220 degrees seven knots, talwind component six knots, you’re cleared to land.“
BS211(female voice): „Cleared to land, BanglaStar 211.“
..
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, tower?“
BS211(female voice): „Go ahead, sir.“
BS211(male voice): „Go ahead, mam‘.“
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, you were given a landing clearance to runway 02.“
BS211(male voice): „Affirmative, mam.“
KTH-Tower: „You are going towards runway 20.“
BS211(male voice): „..(garbled transmission)..to runway 02.“
KTH-Tower (different voice): „…211, runway 20, cleared to land.“
BS211(male voice): „..cleared to land..(unintelligible).“
..
KTH-Tower (different voice): „BanglaStar211, Kathmandu Tower“
BS211(male voice): „Go ahead“
KTH-Tower (different voice): „BanglaStar211, request your intentions.“
BS211(male voice): „..(unintelligible)..“
KTH-Tower (different voice): “ BanglaStar211, that would be VFR.“
BS211(male voice): „Affirmative“
KTH-Tower (different voice): “ 211 join a ri…ehm..right downwind to runway 20.“
BS211(male voice): „Copied.“
KTH-Tower (different voice): “ …right downwind runway 02..“
..
Tower cleares another aircraft (Buddha282) to land on runway 02.
..
KTH-Tower: „And BanglaStar 211, traffic at final eh..runway 02 at two miles, report sighting.“
BS211(male voice): „Copied, Sir. We’ll be at (..) runway 02.“
KTH-Tower: „Confirm you’re tracking towards runway 20 ?“
BS211(male voice): „Affirmative.“
KTH-Tower: „Right..left, right downwind runway 02, I say again Bangla 212 traffic is on final runway 02 landing on runway 02.“
BS211(male voice): „Copied Sir“
..
Tower confirmed landing clearance for the other aircraft (Buddha282) to land on runway 02.
..
KTH-Tower: „211 I say it again, do not proceed towards runway 20. Cleared to hold at your current position.“
BS211(male voice): „Okay, we’re making an orbit to the right, copied ?“
BS211(male voice): „Tower, 211, making a right holding, right holding for runway 02.“
KTH-Tower: „Okay that’s good but do not land. Traffic is on short final runway 02.“
BS211(male voice): „We have that, Sir copied. (unintelligible) we’re cleared to land“
..
KTH-Tower: „..BanglaStar211, runway..eh..cleared to land. Runway is vacated, either runway 02 or 20 ?“
BS211(male voice): „Yes Siur, we like to land on 20.“
KTH-Tower: „Okay runway 20, cleared to land. Wind is 270 degrees, six knots.“
BS211(male voice): „260 copied, cleared to land.“
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, confirm you have the runway in sight?“
BS211(male voice): „Negative, Sir.“
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, turn right and ah..you have the runway, confirm you have the runway not in sight, yet ?“
BS211(male voice): „Affirmative, we have (..) runway in sight. Requesting clear to land, Sir.“
KTH-Tower: „And BanglaStar211, cleared to land.“
BS211(male voice): „Cleared to land runway 02, BanglaStar212.“
KTH-Tower: „Roger, ruway 02, cleared to land, BanglaStar211.“
..
BS211(male voice): „..sir, are we cleared to land ?“
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, I say again..turn… (yelling in background).“
..
(end of BS211 transmissions)
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:08 pm

blackbox67 wrote:
There is a surreal ATC transcript available from LiveATC.net.
http://www.jacdec.de/2018/03/12/2018-03-18-us-bangla-dhc-8-400-crashed-on-landing-kathmandu/



:crazy:

I was wondering if they thought a compass heading of 20 deg would line them up with runway... 20.

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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:09 pm

Aircraft was S2-AGU and plane was reported to have carried 71 people onboard.
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:14 pm

According to the local authorities, 23 survived and at least 39 parished. 71 on board: 67 passengers and 4 crew. So the fate of 9 people is yet unknown.

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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:32 pm

That was a very odd transcript. Wonder what was going on, just confusion, or do bad quality radio connections + bad language skills (on either) end contribute as well?
 
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:34 pm

If that ATC transcript is correct...mindblowing...just mindblowing. They repeatedly get the runway number, the flight number and the wind direction wrong. Confusion both on the flight deck and in the tower...and no-one stops to clarify what's what.
...but it still doesn't explain why they ended up on a field (seemingly), in flames.
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:57 pm

So... They approached from the wrong direction? Can anyone explain how this might happen?

I too want to know how this resulted in them being in a field in flames as well...
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:58 pm

This is the second fatal Q400 crash it will be interesting to see the cause of the crash. One of the passengers reported the aircraft was behaving strangely on approach but I guess this could be a result of the runway changes and apparent confusion in the cockpit.
 
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:58 pm

if the transcript is really, that's a bit unreal from both side.... May someone can correct me if I am wrong but I tough for international flight landing is always on 02 anyway. Landing on 20 would require to turn in the valley...

location of the crash site itself is rather stranger
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:08 pm

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What in the world...
 
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:14 pm

ZeeZoo wrote:
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What in the world...


Yeah, that's what I gathered from this as well. We know they approached from the north... and somehow they ended up over there. Did they decide to let a passenger fly the plane or what?
 
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Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:25 pm

Jouhou wrote:
ZeeZoo wrote:
Image


What in the world...


Yeah, that's what I gathered from this as well. We know they approached from the north... and somehow they ended up over there. Did they decide to let a passenger fly the plane or what?

Left MLG collapse? This isn't by any chance an ex-SK bird?
 
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:32 pm

Reports that all of the 71 passengers and crew were 38 (including all 4 crew) from Bangladesh and 33 were from Nepal, no sign of non Nepalese or Bangladeshi citizens onboard. Also this aircraft was delivered to SAS in 2001 and then to Augsburg in 2008 before this airline in 2014. 49 (including possibly all crew) are killed while 22 others survived with injuries.
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:32 pm

MalevTU134 wrote:
Jouhou wrote:
ZeeZoo wrote:
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What in the world...


Yeah, that's what I gathered from this as well. We know they approached from the north... and somehow they ended up over there. Did they decide to let a passenger fly the plane or what?

Left MLG collapse? This isn't by any chance an ex-SK bird?

Ending up that far from the runway? We need to wait for theofficial reports of course, but it wouldn't be the first time when a go-around ends up in a stall.
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:40 pm

MalevTU134 wrote:
Left MLG collapse? This isn't by any chance an ex-SK bird?


According to this, it was delivered new to SK in 2001 although it has been operated by RJ and IQ, before being delivered to BS.
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:42 pm

MalevTU134 wrote:
Jouhou wrote:
ZeeZoo wrote:
Image


What in the world...


Yeah, that's what I gathered from this as well. We know they approached from the north... and somehow they ended up over there. Did they decide to let a passenger fly the plane or what?

Left MLG collapse? This isn't by any chance an ex-SK bird?


Serial # is 4041 so if the database is to be trusted it spent a few years flying for Royal Jordanian and a lot of years flying for Lufthansa Regional (happy to be corrected though).
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:46 pm

eisenbach wrote:
If that ATC transscript of LiveATC.net is true .... that's just unbelievable!

Wow. Just...wow. Truly ridiculous on both sides of the conversation.
 
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:53 pm

On the alleged atc recording do I hear a aircraft whizzing by the tower just before the crash? :eek: :eek: :eek:
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:04 pm

weather condition at the time? It seems that they had a hard time locating the airport.
 
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:18 pm

Draken21fx wrote:
MalevTU134 wrote:
Jouhou wrote:

Yeah, that's what I gathered from this as well. We know they approached from the north... and somehow they ended up over there. Did they decide to let a passenger fly the plane or what?

Left MLG collapse? This isn't by any chance an ex-SK bird?


Serial # is 4041 so if the database is to be trusted it spent a few years flying for Royal Jordanian and a lot of years flying for Lufthansa Regional (happy to be corrected though).

But before all that, it was one of SAS's problem children, with the corrosion problem in the MLGs.

Anybody knows if SAS repaired all of those Q400s, or just sold them on? Although you would think that both RJ and Augsburg Airways have good maintenance programmes...and no fools to buy just anything without knowing its history.
 
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:19 pm

Jouhou wrote:
So... They approached from the wrong direction? Can anyone explain how this might happen?

I too want to know how this resulted in them being in a field in flames as well...


Some of it may be a problem of the mind processing what it expects to hear rather than what it is actually hearing - the bias in favor of confirmatory information. When you get a wind from 220 and are flying into an airport with a 02/20 runway, you're naturally going to expect 20 as it avoids a tailwind. The fact that "02" is a compass heading of 20 degrees makes the potential confusion even worse - wind from 220, a 02/20 runway, it's a lot of 2s and 20s. Especially if you're not a native English speaker, it can get even worse as you're processing the language less instinctively.

When people get put into stressful situations - like landing an airliner with a tailwind in an airport in a foreign country with very high terrain around - the slower reasoning faculties shut down and people go with their first instinctive judgment. The less experience someone has at a task, the worse this tendency is. It can even reach the point of disregarding information that should clearly indicate something is wrong, such as the fact that the tower said TWICE that they should be expecting to land with a tailwind. But if both pilots make the same cognitive error, there's nobody there to question it.

I don't fly airliners, but if I hear "wind from 220, seven knot tailwind component" and I'm flying a 200 heading, I believe I would immediately know something is wrong, but it's possible someone under a lot of stress could just look down, see a 0, a 2, and a 0 on your dial and not think much of it, including whether they're in the right order. This is exactly the kind of CRM/cognitive stress concern that is the nightmare of a lot of trainer types.
 
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Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:26 pm

ap305 wrote:
On the alleged atc recording do I hear a aircraft whizzing by the tower just before the crash? :eek: :eek: :eek:


Yessss, I heard it as well. wasn't sure what it was...usually no aircraft fly that close to actual tower?
 
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Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:20 pm

blandy62 wrote:
if the transcript is really, that's a bit unreal from both side.... May someone can correct me if I am wrong but I tough for international flight landing is always on 02 anyway. Landing on 20 would require to turn in the valley...

location of the crash site itself is rather stranger

It's not based on international/ domestic, but rather on the aircraft type I've seen everything up to ATR-72s land on the 20, not to dissimilar in size to the Q400. I've seen bigger aircraft take off in that direction (right up to the KE/TG 772s), but usually jets land on the 02. I say usually because I'm not sure what happens with the CRJ200s operated by Saurya Airlines.
 
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:29 pm

The plane is most probably a DHC-8-400.
 
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:39 pm

eisenbach wrote:
If that ATC transscript of LiveATC.net is true .... that's just unbelievable!

Source: JADEC
Please have a look to for detailed information: http://www.jacdec.de/2018/03/12/2018-03 ... kathmandu/

ATC Radio Transcript Kathmandu-Tower:

(Note: this transcript is inofficial and can contain inadequate data)

BS211(female voice): „Good day, BanglaStar211 final runway 02.“
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, tower. Wind 220 degrees eight knots, tailwind component seven knots, continue approach.“
BS211(female voice): „Continue approach BanglaStar 211.“
..
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, wind 220 degrees seven knots, talwind component six knots, you’re cleared to land.“
BS211(female voice): „Cleared to land, BanglaStar 211.“
..
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, tower?“
BS211(female voice): „Go ahead, sir.“
BS211(male voice): „Go ahead, mam‘.“
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, you were given a landing clearance to runway 02.“
BS211(male voice): „Affirmative, mam.“
KTH-Tower: „You are going towards runway 20.“
BS211(male voice): „..(garbled transmission)..to runway 02.“
KTH-Tower (different voice): „…211, runway 20, cleared to land.“
BS211(male voice): „..cleared to land..(unintelligible).“
..
KTH-Tower (different voice): „BanglaStar211, Kathmandu Tower“
BS211(male voice): „Go ahead“
KTH-Tower (different voice): „BanglaStar211, request your intentions.“
BS211(male voice): „..(unintelligible)..“
KTH-Tower (different voice): “ BanglaStar211, that would be VFR.“
BS211(male voice): „Affirmative“
KTH-Tower (different voice): “ 211 join a ri…ehm..right downwind to runway 20.“
BS211(male voice): „Copied.“
KTH-Tower (different voice): “ …right downwind runway 02..“
..
Tower cleares another aircraft (Buddha282) to land on runway 02.
..
KTH-Tower: „And BanglaStar 211, traffic at final eh..runway 02 at two miles, report sighting.“
BS211(male voice): „Copied, Sir. We’ll be at (..) runway 02.“
KTH-Tower: „Confirm you’re tracking towards runway 20 ?“
BS211(male voice): „Affirmative.“
KTH-Tower: „Right..left, right downwind runway 02, I say again Bangla 212 traffic is on final runway 02 landing on runway 02.“
BS211(male voice): „Copied Sir“
..
Tower confirmed landing clearance for the other aircraft (Buddha282) to land on runway 02.
..
KTH-Tower: „211 I say it again, do not proceed towards runway 20. Cleared to hold at your current position.“
BS211(male voice): „Okay, we’re making an orbit to the right, copied ?“
BS211(male voice): „Tower, 211, making a right holding, right holding for runway 02.“
KTH-Tower: „Okay that’s good but do not land. Traffic is on short final runway 02.“
BS211(male voice): „We have that, Sir copied. (unintelligible) we’re cleared to land“
..
KTH-Tower: „..BanglaStar211, runway..eh..cleared to land. Runway is vacated, either runway 02 or 20 ?“
BS211(male voice): „Yes Siur, we like to land on 20.“
KTH-Tower: „Okay runway 20, cleared to land. Wind is 270 degrees, six knots.“
BS211(male voice): „260 copied, cleared to land.“
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, confirm you have the runway in sight?“
BS211(male voice): „Negative, Sir.“
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, turn right and ah..you have the runway, confirm you have the runway not in sight, yet ?“
BS211(male voice): „Affirmative, we have (..) runway in sight. Requesting clear to land, Sir.“
KTH-Tower: „And BanglaStar211, cleared to land.“
BS211(male voice): „Cleared to land runway 02, BanglaStar212.“
KTH-Tower: „Roger, ruway 02, cleared to land, BanglaStar211.“
..
BS211(male voice): „..sir, are we cleared to land ?“
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, I say again..turn… (yelling in background).“
..
(end of BS211 transmissions)


Oh my goodness just tell them to go around, this can’t be real!
 
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:49 pm

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/03/12/asia ... index.html

Well according to this source, some witnesses indicated that the plane was flying very low and changed direction suddenly...
 
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:56 pm

ikolkyo wrote:
eisenbach wrote:
If that ATC transscript of LiveATC.net is true .... that's just unbelievable!

Source: JADEC
Please have a look to for detailed information: http://www.jacdec.de/2018/03/12/2018-03 ... kathmandu/

ATC Radio Transcript Kathmandu-Tower:

(Note: this transcript is inofficial and can contain inadequate data)

BS211(female voice): „Good day, BanglaStar211 final runway 02.“
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, tower. Wind 220 degrees eight knots, tailwind component seven knots, continue approach.“
BS211(female voice): „Continue approach BanglaStar 211.“
..
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, wind 220 degrees seven knots, talwind component six knots, you’re cleared to land.“
BS211(female voice): „Cleared to land, BanglaStar 211.“
..
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, tower?“
BS211(female voice): „Go ahead, sir.“
BS211(male voice): „Go ahead, mam‘.“
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, you were given a landing clearance to runway 02.“
BS211(male voice): „Affirmative, mam.“
KTH-Tower: „You are going towards runway 20.“
BS211(male voice): „..(garbled transmission)..to runway 02.“
KTH-Tower (different voice): „…211, runway 20, cleared to land.“
BS211(male voice): „..cleared to land..(unintelligible).“
..
KTH-Tower (different voice): „BanglaStar211, Kathmandu Tower“
BS211(male voice): „Go ahead“
KTH-Tower (different voice): „BanglaStar211, request your intentions.“
BS211(male voice): „..(unintelligible)..“
KTH-Tower (different voice): “ BanglaStar211, that would be VFR.“
BS211(male voice): „Affirmative“
KTH-Tower (different voice): “ 211 join a ri…ehm..right downwind to runway 20.“
BS211(male voice): „Copied.“
KTH-Tower (different voice): “ …right downwind runway 02..“
..
Tower cleares another aircraft (Buddha282) to land on runway 02.
..
KTH-Tower: „And BanglaStar 211, traffic at final eh..runway 02 at two miles, report sighting.“
BS211(male voice): „Copied, Sir. We’ll be at (..) runway 02.“
KTH-Tower: „Confirm you’re tracking towards runway 20 ?“
BS211(male voice): „Affirmative.“
KTH-Tower: „Right..left, right downwind runway 02, I say again Bangla 212 traffic is on final runway 02 landing on runway 02.“
BS211(male voice): „Copied Sir“
..
Tower confirmed landing clearance for the other aircraft (Buddha282) to land on runway 02.
..
KTH-Tower: „211 I say it again, do not proceed towards runway 20. Cleared to hold at your current position.“
BS211(male voice): „Okay, we’re making an orbit to the right, copied ?“
BS211(male voice): „Tower, 211, making a right holding, right holding for runway 02.“
KTH-Tower: „Okay that’s good but do not land. Traffic is on short final runway 02.“
BS211(male voice): „We have that, Sir copied. (unintelligible) we’re cleared to land“
..
KTH-Tower: „..BanglaStar211, runway..eh..cleared to land. Runway is vacated, either runway 02 or 20 ?“
BS211(male voice): „Yes Siur, we like to land on 20.“
KTH-Tower: „Okay runway 20, cleared to land. Wind is 270 degrees, six knots.“
BS211(male voice): „260 copied, cleared to land.“
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, confirm you have the runway in sight?“
BS211(male voice): „Negative, Sir.“
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, turn right and ah..you have the runway, confirm you have the runway not in sight, yet ?“
BS211(male voice): „Affirmative, we have (..) runway in sight. Requesting clear to land, Sir.“
KTH-Tower: „And BanglaStar211, cleared to land.“
BS211(male voice): „Cleared to land runway 02, BanglaStar212.“
KTH-Tower: „Roger, ruway 02, cleared to land, BanglaStar211.“
..
BS211(male voice): „..sir, are we cleared to land ?“
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, I say again..turn… (yelling in background).“
..
(end of BS211 transmissions)


Oh my goodness just tell them to go around, this can’t be real!


Yes and give them some vectors instead of messing around like this when they clearly are confused.
 
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:28 pm

ILS system at KTM is long overdue. This would have probably been avoided.
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:31 pm

theaviator380 wrote:
ap305 wrote:
On the alleged atc recording do I hear a aircraft whizzing by the tower just before the crash? :eek: :eek: :eek:


Yessss, I heard it as well. wasn't sure what it was...usually no aircraft fly that close to actual tower?



Do you have a timestamp for that? I'm having a lot of difficulty listening to the audio
 
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:37 pm

ap305 wrote:
On the alleged atc recording do I hear a aircraft whizzing by the tower just before the crash? :eek: :eek: :eek:

You may well be able to hear it over the

This article quotes the airport general manager as saying that the plane flew over/near the tower
http://kathmandupost.ekantipur.com/news/2018-03-12/us-bangala-plane-crashed-due-to-missed-approach-tia.html
“The plane flew past just above the air-traffic control tower during its descent for landing. It touched down the ground just next to a parked plane and ploughed through a fence on the east side of the airport, and plunged into the lower ground,” said Chhetri. “Security personnel from Nepal Army and Nepal Police rushed for rescue operation due to timely fire control alert. Had the intensity of fire I saw continued for 10 more minutes, the situation would have been even more dreadful.”

Airport officials said the Bangla plane narrowly escaped from hitting the tail of Thai Airways plane parked at the airport."
 
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Re: Reports of crash in Kathmandu, Nepal

Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:49 pm

LoganTheBogan wrote:
MalevTU134 wrote:
LoganTheBogan wrote:
Third crash today....... What on earth is happening?

Which are the other two?


Challenger 604 with 11 people crashed in Iran mountainside.
Helicopter crashes into East River, New York killing 5 of the 6 on board.



I don't know if anyone else here follows (on instagram) the account "elif737" (belonging to Pilot Elif Ulusoy). The Challenger that went down belonged to Basaran Holdings (owned by a Turkish billionaire). Elif was one of their pilots, and she was very active on social media. It has not been confirmed if she was amongst the flight crew. Her instagram account has been blocked now. Just 2 days ago she was posting a picture inside the plane (with the heir of Mr. Basaran). RIP to the ones involved.

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