A very welcome visitor in Bergen today, arriving from Helsinki and due to continue onto Iceland on Sunday. Aircraft was reported full of ballast tanks for testing.
B-001Q COMAC ARJ21-700 msn 104 COMAC by DigitalAirliners.com, on Flickr
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Comac ARJ21 visits Europe
Grap your camera if you have the chance: a Comac ARJ21 test bed is visiting Europe this week.
B-001Q COMAC ARJ21-700 msn 104 COMAC by DigitalAirliners.com, on Flickr
B-001Q COMAC ARJ21-700 msn 104 COMAC by DigitalAirliners.com, on Flickr
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Short DC-9 with modified cockpit windows, CF34 engines, Tupolev designed wings - made with McDonnell Douglas tooling left in China.
Interesting aircraft.
Interesting aircraft.
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Big question is, will it make it back in one piece....
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FlyRow wrote:Big question is, will it make it back in one piece....
Are you suggesting it will become Chinese carry-out?
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Are the engines in a good place relative to the wing?
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1900Driver wrote:Was Ryanair there to visit?
It's the ARJ21, not C919
FlyRow wrote:Big question is, will it make it back in one piece....
sccutler wrote:Ooh! A DC-9!
Nope, DC-9-10neo-C2 is what this is.
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You’d think they would at least wash the plane first.
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zakuivcustom wrote:Nope, DC-9-10neo-C2 is what this is.
Nothing DC about the wing and aero afaik.
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Flown one time (intentionally), not much different from other planes...
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It seems the only thing DC is the fuselage. This might be part of the reason why the plane has had so much issues!
Good luck to the testing team, hope they take away new knowledge for the C919.
Good luck to the testing team, hope they take away new knowledge for the C919.
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Polot wrote:You’d think they would at least wash the plane first.
And finish painting it.
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chunhimlai wrote:DC9MAX
So it can carry fish right?
Are you suggesting it will become Chinese carry-out?
Let's just hope the engine doesn't make a "k(l)ung pao(w)" noice ... this is not a plane-design you want as a EU-airline.
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A DC-9 produced in typical Chinese fashion. Mix and match different designs and it becomes their own design. Antonov wings and a CRJ/E-Jet engine.
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One of them was in Oslo a few years ago, cold weather testing, i think
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Dirty with what looks like an unpainted rudder. What's that black thing just forward of the wings in line with the windows?
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Where is it now? Cant find any aircraft with registration B-001Q on Flightradar24
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spartanmjf wrote:DC9-NEO, maybe with fewer issues?
Yes, the NEO has far fewer issues. Right now 4 ARJ-22s are required to do the duty of one and they keep an A320 on standby despite having a large dedicated maintenance team. It is probably the most maintenance intensive subsonic jet in commercial duty.
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Pacific wrote:Good luck to the testing team, hope they take away new knowledge for the C919.
If it's made in China, they've "taken away" plenty of new knowledge, just before they started building the thing.
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Interesting looking aircraft. Need to see it next to people to get a sense of scale.
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Well heres the in production 717 delta always wanted..
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JetBuddy wrote:Short DC-9 with modified cockpit windows, CF34 engines, Tupolev designed wings - made with McDonnell Douglas tooling left in China.
Interesting aircraft.
Actually the new wing was designed by Antonov of Ukraine (not Tupolev). The fuselage is based on those of MD-80/90 previously assembled under license in China (admittedly both DC-9 derivatives).
I agree, should be a nice Frankenstein-monster to fly on!
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I noticed a cabin door just forward of the engine, which the short DC-9s didn't have. Does the Comac retain the tail cone escape, or does this door replace it (no tail cone ejection)?
Edit: and does it have the ventral stair?
Edit: and does it have the ventral stair?
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God damn I'm sorry to anyone that likes this aircraft but in my opinion:
1. It looks ugly AF
2. No way in the world you'd get me to fly on it.
My friend flew in one once and he looked shell shocked after he had got off. Words from his mouth "I'd rather fly a bird turd than this bird"....
1. It looks ugly AF
2. No way in the world you'd get me to fly on it.
My friend flew in one once and he looked shell shocked after he had got off. Words from his mouth "I'd rather fly a bird turd than this bird"....
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I like the looks of this aircraft, too bad they messed it up to the point that it is now hopelessly outdated compared to the competition.
I don't think so, for either of those. Unlike on the MD-80, they placed the APU in the tail cone. Pictures of the aircrafts belly during air displays don't indicate any hatch under the tail for the ventral stairs, and all cabin layout graphics I have seen show that the space in the rear of the cabin is filled up with cabinets.
Wingtips56 wrote:I noticed a cabin door just forward of the engine, which the short DC-9s didn't have. Does the Comac retain the tail cone escape, or does this door replace it (no tail cone ejection)?
Edit: and does it have the ventral stair?
I don't think so, for either of those. Unlike on the MD-80, they placed the APU in the tail cone. Pictures of the aircrafts belly during air displays don't indicate any hatch under the tail for the ventral stairs, and all cabin layout graphics I have seen show that the space in the rear of the cabin is filled up with cabinets.
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sevenair wrote:Dirty with what looks like an unpainted rudder. What's that black thing just forward of the wings in line with the windows?
beauty spot.
( .. and maybe give people something simple to ask about .. )
"unpainted rudder".
is the ARJ21 in Europe for a sales campaign or something different like testing or other?
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WIederling wrote:
is the ARJ21 in Europe for a sales campaign or something different like testing or other?
They are testing if it can fly!
...Just an airliners enthusiast joke
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vahancrazy wrote:WIederling wrote:
is the ARJ21 in Europe for a sales campaign or something different like testing or other?
They are testing if it can fly!
haha. How did it get here? By rail?
...Just an airliners enthusiast joke
yeah, I've browsed across the "Gesinnungsaufsatz" writers here.
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Someone83 wrote:Where is it now? Cant find any aircraft with registration B-001Q on Flightradar24
Before it arrived HEL it was shown as a Shanghai Airlines 737 (B-5523) on Flightradar24. However that seemed to be just a one-off. So probably the best way to find it is to keep your eyes open.
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