moa999 wrote:Same as ADL and CBR procedures. Only one screening for transfer pax though.
Also same as OOL... mainly screening for LAGS I guess cause that's the main difference between international and domestic security requirements
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moa999 wrote:Same as ADL and CBR procedures. Only one screening for transfer pax though.
CraigAnderson wrote:So there's TWICE the security checks and queues for PER passengers on international QF flights now?
Here's what the GT article says. "Passengers for all Qantas international flights from March 24 will check in at T4, where most Qantas domestic passengers check-in for flights and then move to the usual domestic security. Once through that process they will make their way to the international wing which is located in the adjacent T4.
They will then proceed to international security and passport control and then into the international departures area."
Doesn't sound ideal, does it!
qf789 wrote:Unruly QF passenger on a PER-BNE flight from July last year receives a $10,500 fine and is order to pay QF $15,207
https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/crime/ ... b88772791z
moa999 wrote:CraigAnderson wrote:Not seen anything suggesting it, although after Late-March changes it's only PER-DPS. The Qantas lounge will reportedly remain open in T1Can anybody confirm if JQ international flights from PER will still be T1 or are they also moving to the new QF T3 'international wing'?
CraigAnderson wrote:Not seen anything suggesting it, although after Late-March changes it's only PER-DPS. The Qantas lounge will reportedly remain open in T1Can anybody confirm if JQ international flights from PER will still be T1 or are they also moving to the new QF T3 'international wing'?
CraigAnderson wrote:So there's TWICE the security checks and queues for PER passengers on international QF flights now?
Here's what the GT article says. "Passengers for all Qantas international flights from March 24 will check in at T4, where most Qantas domestic passengers check-in for flights and then move to the usual domestic security. Once through that process they will make their way to the international wing which is located in the adjacent T4.
They will then proceed to international security and passport control and then into the international departures area."
Doesn't sound ideal, does it!
Also, had to raise an eyebrow at this line. "While there are two levels of security, that is expected to be offset by the more intimate and easier processing with typically far fewer passengers."
Besides being a bit apologist for QF and PER, I would never want to use the word "intimate" to describe airport security checks! LOL
qf789 wrote:VH-OQD has departed DXB and will arrive in SYD around 9am
AsiaTravel wrote:According to this french news website, Qantas will launch PER/CDG by the end of the year.
https://www.deplacementspros.com/Exclusif-Qantas-ouvrira-son-Perth-Paris-avant-la-fin-septembre-2018_a47388.html
qf789 wrote:WA government to send delegation to India in coming months as it targets a direct service from India
https://blueswandaily.com/western-austr ... -to-india/
EK413 wrote:Whatsaptudo wrote:With Qantas finally confirming the reconfiguration of 6 (4 current domestic and the 2 international) A332's. What are your predictions for routes these aircraft will be used on?
SIN/CGK/MNL and some services to HKG, could all still use the "domestic/single toilet/no Pilot crew rest" versions or A333's, so they are expanding the fleet capable of longer haul operations. There must be a plan for this capability. Where to?
My prediction is South Africa.
Curious to here other opinions.
If you click back 1 page your answers are there.
“The international A330 schedule (excluding NZ) uses around 14 to 15 A330s a day with a bit of slack. So 16 pure international A330s should cover all the existing flying.”
EK413
AsiaTravel wrote:According to this french news website, Qantas will launch PER/CDG by the end of the year.
https://www.deplacementspros.com/Exclusif-Qantas-ouvrira-son-Perth-Paris-avant-la-fin-septembre-2018_a47388.html
Whatsaptudo wrote:With Qantas finally confirming the reconfiguration of 6 (4 current domestic and the 2 international) A332's.
Whatsaptudo wrote:Sure EK. But why would QF install Pilot Crew rests to these aircraft, just so they could fly them to destinations they already do? I’d suggest it’s more involved than “the current international schedule”. QF wouldn’t spend the money. They are for use elsewhere, I’m just curious as to where you think.
AsiaTravel wrote:According to this french news website, Qantas will launch PER/CDG by the end of the year.
qf002 wrote:QF has already scheduled their 787s for this year, if CDG happens then it won't be until the end of 2019 at the earliest.
qf789 wrote:VH-OQD has departed DXB and will arrive in SYD around 9am tomorrow
https://twitter.com/YMMLaviation/status ... 0516003840
moa999 wrote:And only then if they sent #7/8 from BNE, or moved the base. Otherwise you are likely talking July 2020 it later given the recent deferral suggests QF only wants 4 in FY20
HM7 wrote:qf789 wrote:VH-OQD has departed DXB and will arrive in SYD around 9am tomorrow
https://twitter.com/YMMLaviation/status ... 0516003840
So was it repainted?
qf002 wrote:Whatsaptudo wrote:With Qantas finally confirming the reconfiguration of 6 (4 current domestic and the 2 international) A332's.
EBG and EBL (the Skybed aircraft) will get the standard 28J/243Y configuration with iPads in Y. The 6 frames to be converted to the new international 27J/243Y configuration will come from the 8 that are already fitted with Panasonic PTVs in both J and Y.Whatsaptudo wrote:Sure EK. But why would QF install Pilot Crew rests to these aircraft, just so they could fly them to destinations they already do? I’d suggest it’s more involved than “the current international schedule”. QF wouldn’t spend the money. They are for use elsewhere, I’m just curious as to where you think.
The announcement didn't say anything about crew rests, just an additional toilet, larger galleys and new fabric seat coverings in J. There isn't space for them to fit an extra loo, more galley space PLUS a cockpit rest area (which would displace half of the D1 galley) while losing only a single seat.
RyanairGuru wrote:The article about PER-CDG is interesting. It is much better written than anything AusBT have ever published, which I feel does lend some credibility.
IF the article is true, which is a big if, then that could only mean that there has been a change of plan and Qantas are now looking at Paris instead of the new North American destination from Brisbane. Everything has gone quiet on that front so that is a possibility.
I think it’s more likely though that there has been a misunderstanding between the writer and his source. According to the article the flight will start “septembre prochain”, next September.
On Sunday I was talking to someone about ‘next Monday’ which they assumed meant the next day. No that is tomorrow! Next Monday is next week! I mention this because there is no set definition of ‘next week’. We know from context what we mean, but there is opportunity for confusion as that assumes everyone has the same frame of reference.
To me next September means September 2019. If I meant September 2018 I’d have said September 2018. September 2019 would line up with FY20 deliveries. I could be wrong, but that’s my guess.
DeltaB717 wrote:Boof wrote:The extreme EDTO/ETOPS is also approved elsewhere but not in Australia.
Actually, what you term 'extreme EDTO/ETOPS' (which I take to include EDTO up to 330-370 minutes and polar operations) has been possible under Australian legislation and standards for several years now. No operator has, to the best of my knowledge, sought approval for either extended EDTO or polar operations, but it is possible. Some time around 2015, from memory. Your point that CASA is often far behind other parts of the world, however, is spot on and is most definitely demonstrated in how long it took CASA to come around to this particular issue.
RyanairGuru wrote:The article about PER-CDG is interesting. It is much better written than anything AusBT have ever published, which I feel does lend some credibility.
RyanairGuru wrote:The article about PER-CDG is interesting. It is much better written than anything AusBT have ever published, which I feel does lend some credibility.
IF the article is true, which is a big if, then that could only mean that there has been a change of plan and Qantas are now looking at Paris instead of the new North American destination from Brisbane. Everything has gone quiet on that front so that is a possibility.
I think it’s more likely though that there has been a misunderstanding between the writer and his source. According to the article the flight will start “septembre prochain”, next September.
On Sunday I was talking to someone about ‘next Monday’ which they assumed meant the next day. No that is tomorrow! Next Monday is next week! I mention this because there is no set definition of ‘next week’. We know from context what we mean, but there is opportunity for confusion as that assumes everyone has the same frame of reference.
To me next September means September 2019. If I meant September 2018 I’d have said September 2018. September 2019 would line up with FY20 deliveries. I could be wrong, but that’s my guess.
AsiaTravel wrote:According to this french news website, Qantas will launch PER/CDG by the end of the year.
https://www.deplacementspros.com/Exclusif-Qantas-ouvrira-son-Perth-Paris-avant-la-fin-septembre-2018_a47388.html
decry wrote:OQD hasn't been repainted.
decry wrote:Ya gotta love the misinformed posting of morons in the twattersphere!
A350OZ wrote:RyanairGuru wrote:The article about PER-CDG is interesting. It is much better written than anything AusBT have ever published, which I feel does lend some credibility.
IF the article is true, which is a big if, then that could only mean that there has been a change of plan and Qantas are now looking at Paris instead of the new North American destination from Brisbane. Everything has gone quiet on that front so that is a possibility.
I think it’s more likely though that there has been a misunderstanding between the writer and his source. According to the article the flight will start “septembre prochain”, next September.
On Sunday I was talking to someone about ‘next Monday’ which they assumed meant the next day. No that is tomorrow! Next Monday is next week! I mention this because there is no set definition of ‘next week’. We know from context what we mean, but there is opportunity for confusion as that assumes everyone has the same frame of reference.
To me next September means September 2019. If I meant September 2018 I’d have said September 2018. September 2019 would line up with FY20 deliveries. I could be wrong, but that’s my guess.
I agree. To me, September 2018 would be "this September", while "next September" can easily be September 2019. It would certainly better line up with the availability of the 789 fleet. And I do not see them commencing CDG with a 3pw frequency, it does not make sense in competition with the ME3, SQ, CX etc.
qf2220 wrote:A350OZ wrote:RyanairGuru wrote:The article about PER-CDG is interesting. It is much better written than anything AusBT have ever published, which I feel does lend some credibility.
IF the article is true, which is a big if, then that could only mean that there has been a change of plan and Qantas are now looking at Paris instead of the new North American destination from Brisbane. Everything has gone quiet on that front so that is a possibility.
I think it’s more likely though that there has been a misunderstanding between the writer and his source. According to the article the flight will start “septembre prochain”, next September.
On Sunday I was talking to someone about ‘next Monday’ which they assumed meant the next day. No that is tomorrow! Next Monday is next week! I mention this because there is no set definition of ‘next week’. We know from context what we mean, but there is opportunity for confusion as that assumes everyone has the same frame of reference.
To me next September means September 2019. If I meant September 2018 I’d have said September 2018. September 2019 would line up with FY20 deliveries. I could be wrong, but that’s my guess.
I agree. To me, September 2018 would be "this September", while "next September" can easily be September 2019. It would certainly better line up with the availability of the 789 fleet. And I do not see them commencing CDG with a 3pw frequency, it does not make sense in competition with the ME3, SQ, CX etc.
We need a french speaker to give an accurate translation - who on the rest of the boards would be best?!
Though if translation is the issue, it could be that the original author, if speaking to an english speaker, could be the source of confusion too.
DavidByrne wrote:qf2220 wrote:A350OZ wrote:
I agree. To me, September 2018 would be "this September", while "next September" can easily be September 2019. It would certainly better line up with the availability of the 789 fleet. And I do not see them commencing CDG with a 3pw frequency, it does not make sense in competition with the ME3, SQ, CX etc.
We need a french speaker to give an accurate translation - who on the rest of the boards would be best?!
Though if translation is the issue, it could be that the original author, if speaking to an english speaker, could be the source of confusion too.
It's quite straightforward - the article says that "Qantas has made known that Perth/Paris would be a reality before the end of 2018, even advancing a possible date: next September."
That's clearly stating that it will be THIS year. Whether it's the truth, though, I can't judge!
RyanairGuru wrote:To me next September means September 2019. If I meant September 2018 I’d have said September 2018. September 2019 would line up with FY20 deliveries. I could be wrong, but that’s my guess.
qf2220 wrote:Does anyone have a calendar of delivery slots for the 789 frames that QF has? Both fully confirmed orders, and yet to be confirmed ones?
qf002 wrote:Whatsaptudo wrote:With Qantas finally confirming the reconfiguration of 6 (4 current domestic and the 2 international) A332's.
EBG and EBL (the Skybed aircraft) will get the standard 28J/243Y configuration with iPads in Y. The 6 frames to be converted to the new international 27J/243Y configuration will come from the 8 that are already fitted with Panasonic PTVs in both J and Y.Whatsaptudo wrote:Sure EK. But why would QF install Pilot Crew rests to these aircraft, just so they could fly them to destinations they already do? I’d suggest it’s more involved than “the current international schedule”. QF wouldn’t spend the money. They are for use elsewhere, I’m just curious as to where you think.
The announcement didn't say anything about crew rests, just an additional toilet, larger galleys and new fabric seat coverings in J. There isn't space for them to fit an extra loo, more galley space PLUS a cockpit rest area (which would displace half of the D1 galley) while losing only a single seat.AsiaTravel wrote:According to this french news website, Qantas will launch PER/CDG by the end of the year.
QF has already scheduled their 787s for this year, if CDG happens then it won't be until the end of 2019 at the earliest.
QF744ER wrote:Completely hypothetically speaking and just thinking outside the box, everyone seems to be assuming that it would be Dreamliners operating the mentioned/proposed PER-CDG flight, why could it not be a 744ER? Could QF possibly free-up some ER's with the conversion of some US flights ex BNE to Dreamliners?
Also as I mentioned on another thread earlier in the week QF9 PER-LHR on the B789 is payload restricted west-bound and approx 40 seats will requiring blocking.
EK413 wrote:qf2220 wrote:Does anyone have a calendar of delivery slots for the 789 frames that QF has? Both fully confirmed orders, and yet to be confirmed ones?
•5th frame VHZNE 12th July 2018
•6th frame VHZNF 24th August 2018
•7th frame VHZNG 13th November 2018
•8th frame VHZNH 26th November 2018
EK413
QF744ER wrote:
Also as I mentioned on another thread earlier in the week QF9 PER-LHR on the B789 is payload restricted west-bound and approx 40 seats will requiring blocking.
qf2220 wrote:EK413 wrote:qf2220 wrote:Does anyone have a calendar of delivery slots for the 789 frames that QF has? Both fully confirmed orders, and yet to be confirmed ones?
•5th frame VHZNE 12th July 2018
•6th frame VHZNF 24th August 2018
•7th frame VHZNG 13th November 2018
•8th frame VHZNH 26th November 2018
EK413
What about the next 8? Theyre not yet locked in i know...