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Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:51 pm

The first 777-9 is coming together in the factory building.
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Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:47 pm

It’s nice to see the progress of the 777X. As an amateur aviation geek, it would have been cool to see the 787 nose section, no offense of the 777X. I look forward to see it complete with engines and the beautiful new wings :-)
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I can't really gauge if the windows are taller from this angle, but excited to see some more shots.
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:59 am

They are significantly taller than the previous 777 windows but not as tall as those on the 787. Boeing's 777X website has a comparative picture somewhere.
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:09 am

Very exciting to see this now at body join - always great to see a new airliner come together!

Oykie wrote:
I look forward to see it complete with engines and the beautiful new wings
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They are significantly taller than the previous 777 windows but not as tall as those on the 787. Boeing's 777X website has a comparative picture somewhere.


This?

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Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:38 pm

ikolkyo wrote:
The first 777-9 is coming together in the factory building.
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https://twitter.com/boeingairplanes/sta ... 72801?s=21


I had not realised that the programme is at this stage already!

Great to see this bird coming together.

When will assembly be complete and when will roll-out take place?
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Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:48 pm

MoKa777 wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
The first 777-9 is coming together in the factory building.
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https://twitter.com/boeingairplanes/sta ... 72801?s=21


I had not realised that the programme is at this stage already!

Great to see this bird coming together.

When will assembly be complete and when will roll-out take place?

First flight is expected in about a year, so rollout will probably be late this year or very early next. Hopefully with engines on it.
 
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Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:09 pm

Slash787 wrote:
seabosdca wrote:
They are significantly taller than the previous 777 windows but not as tall as those on the 787. Boeing's 777X website has a comparative picture somewhere.


This?

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Will the 777X use the same "dimmable" windows as the 787 or have they decided to go with the traditional shades?
 
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reffado wrote:
Slash787 wrote:
seabosdca wrote:
They are significantly taller than the previous 777 windows but not as tall as those on the 787. Boeing's 777X website has a comparative picture somewhere.


This?

Image


Will the 777X use the same "dimmable" windows as the 787 or have they decided to go with the traditional shades?

Traditional window shades iirc. Modifying everything to allow for dimmable windows is probably too much trouble to be worth it.
 
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Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:16 pm

reffado wrote:
Slash787 wrote:
seabosdca wrote:
They are significantly taller than the previous 777 windows but not as tall as those on the 787. Boeing's 777X website has a comparative picture somewhere.


This?

Image


Will the 777X use the same "dimmable" windows as the 787 or have they decided to go with the traditional shades?


IIRC.... the traditional shades won out to save $$$$$$
 
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Polot wrote:
MoKa777 wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
The first 777-9 is coming together in the factory building.
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https://twitter.com/boeingairplanes/sta ... 72801?s=21


I had not realised that the programme is at this stage already!

Great to see this bird coming together.

When will assembly be complete and when will roll-out take place?

First flight is expected in about a year, so rollout will probably be late this year or very early next. Hopefully with engines on it.


Thank you for the info.

We are very spoilt with new(ish) aircraft.

Over a period of +-6 years (789 delivery 08/2014 - 779 planned delivery 12/2019) we get 789, A359, CSeries, A35K, 78J, A33N, 779, and the various 737Max and A32N models in between. A lot of activity going on.
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Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:39 am

Wow, from where I sit the 779's 2019 entry into service is just around the corner. Does this mean the certification process will take less than a year
 
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travelhound wrote:
Wow, from where I sit the 779's 2019 entry into service is just around the corner. Does this mean the certification process will take less than a year

EIS is in 2020.
 
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Polot wrote:
travelhound wrote:
Wow, from where I sit the 779's 2019 entry into service is just around the corner. Does this mean the certification process will take less than a year

EIS is in 2020.


Not to nitpick but EK is currently expected to get their first aircraft in December 2019 and could very well launch services in that month but its too early to tell. 2020 is a safer/likely bet.
 
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Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:52 pm

Every time I see more of this plane I run around the room flapping my arms above my head with sheer excitement. Always loved the 77W and this looks like it'll be very tasty indeed.
 
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Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:19 pm

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Every time I see more of this plane I run around the room flapping my arms above my head with sheer excitement. Always loved the 77W and this looks like it'll be very tasty indeed.

I just want to see this thing taxiing around with the largest (dia) jet engines on the planet. Not the hugest fan (no pun intended) of the 777 anymore (was magical as a kid though) but wow - the engines and folding wingtips make it a very important aircraft in the overall scheme of commercial aviation.
 
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Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:34 pm

Sooner787 wrote:
reffado wrote:
Slash787 wrote:

This?

Image


Will the 777X use the same "dimmable" windows as the 787 or have they decided to go with the traditional shades?


IIRC.... the traditional shades won out to save $$$$$$
Polot wrote:
reffado wrote:

Will the 777X use the same "dimmable" windows as the 787 or have they decided to go with the traditional shades?

Traditional window shades iirc. Modifying everything to allow for dimmable windows is probably too much trouble to be worth it.


Makes sense. Thanks for the info!
 
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Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:26 am

Boeing has a March 2018 update of the 777X ACAP that now includes "Folding Wing Tip Concept of Operations" starting on page 81 of the PDF.

https://www.boeing.com/resources/boeing ... 9_RevA.pdf
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Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:07 am

Am assuming that 100% of design work is now complete and frozen since they are now building the real thing.
 
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Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:07 am

Ironworkers work on the fatigue 777X test frame at PAE

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Another 777X autoclave being fabricated at PAE

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Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:23 am

Pre-rusted parts save the contractor the time required to apply rust at the job site! :duck:
 
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:48 am

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Pre-rusted parts save the contractor the time required to apply rust at the job site! :duck:


Usually you'd expect segments to be fully surface coated except for the field joints.
On the other hand: these autoclaves will never "live" in a difficult environment.
this may obviate the protective coatings.
third hand: final destination is a clean(ish) room environment .. so particles ( rust ) is an issue.
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:28 am

WIederling wrote:
seabosdca wrote:
Pre-rusted parts save the contractor the time required to apply rust at the job site! :duck:


Usually you'd expect segments to be fully surface coated except for the field joints.
On the other hand: these autoclaves will never "live" in a difficult environment.
this may obviate the protective coatings.
third hand: final destination is a clean(ish) room environment .. so particles ( rust ) is an issue.


I'd suggest they will encapsulate the finished vessel, blast and paint.

From a manufacturing perspective they last thing Boeing would want is the contamination associated with a rusty autoclave.
 
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Sun May 06, 2018 12:11 pm

The rust will be cleared later. There is no need, even it is not helful to protect the surface by coating now until the autoclave is completed.
Be sure it will be perfectly rustfree before it starts baking all the wings for the 777x. Ever seen how a ship is put together, espeically cruise ships. Anyone ever seen cuise ship frame when its finishes and how it looks before all the pieces are put together? Pretty similar. So no worry, the wing production will be fine.

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Sun May 06, 2018 4:22 pm

Anyone have any idea when the first bird starts final assembly?
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Mon May 07, 2018 3:15 am

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Anyone have any idea when the first bird starts final assembly?


When I drove past the factory last week on a warm day, I could see the new arch tool for worker access for the fuselage joins sitting inside one of the open doors, so they are probably getting close.

It's somewhat similar to the aluminum arch you see in the top of this photo, but looks beefier:
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A reminder to all users this thread is about 777X production not about the order book or anything else, please keep to the topic
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A reminder to all users this thread is about 777X production not about the order book or anything else, please keep to the topic


So what thread do you recommend to discus order book and production rates for the 777 and 777x during and after the transition?
 
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Flyglobal wrote:
The rust will be cleared later. There is no need, even it is not helful to protect the surface by coating now until the autoclave is completed.
Be sure it will be perfectly rustfree before it starts baking all the wings for the 777x. Ever seen how a ship is put together, espeically cruise ships. Anyone ever seen cuise ship frame when its finishes and how it looks before all the pieces are put together? Pretty similar. So no worry, the wing production will be fine.

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It will be perhaps be sandblasted and than painted or coated, but never rust free. Rust free denotes a material that does not rust.
 
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mjoelnir wrote:
qf789 wrote:
A reminder to all users this thread is about 777X production not about the order book or anything else, please keep to the topic


So what thread do you recommend to discus order book and production rates for the 777 and 777x during and after the transition?

Seems like you should create the "Order book and production rates for the 777 and 777x during and after the transition thread".
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qf789 wrote:
A reminder to all users this thread is about 777X production not about the order book or anything else, please keep to the topic

I have to disagree. the title is the same as all other production threads. The question asked is a normal production question from the early days of the 787 and 737MAX..

The thread (as past "production" threads have) will take on different faces as the pre production is replaced by test plane production and testing and again when it moves to full production.
 
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First wings 777X test airplanes are coming along nicely
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Wed May 16, 2018 9:22 pm

Nice little update ikolkyo. Thank you. Funny how the latest new programs have adopted horizontal wing building.
 
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Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:05 am

According to Boeing, they will manufacture the flight test aircraft for the 777-9X. It is tentivly scheduled for June-July.
From https://boeing.com/777Xschedule/
 
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Ethan123 wrote:
Also I forgot to add that the first flight is scheduled for February 2019.
From https://boeing.com/777Xschedule/


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The link seems to have broken down . . . :

https://www.boeing.com/777Xschedule/

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Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:20 pm

It would be cool but knowing Seattle in February it usually rains all month. So I don’t know if they will have good weather but will see I guess.
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Ethan123 wrote:
It would be cool but knowing Seattle in February it usually rains all month. So I don’t know if they will have good weather but will see I guess.


The other day I was watching the video I took of the MAX 8 inaugural flight. I was soaking wet and frozen. Thanks Boeing. lol
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Has the 777X got the silly windows?
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Has the 777X got the silly windows?


The windows will be larger and positioned to both allow in more ambient light and improve passenger sight lines when looking out. The dimming functionality from the 787 was considered, but I believe if it will be available, it will be a customer-specified option and not standard.
 
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Stitch wrote:
Arion640 wrote:
Has the 777X got the silly windows?


The windows will be larger and positioned to both allow in more ambient light and improve passenger sight lines when looking out. The dimming functionality from the 787 was considered, but I believe if it will be available, it will be a customer-specified option and not standard.


Thanks,

I like the larger windows. But not the dimming feature, I once missed what probably would of been a fantastic sunrise on American Airlines because of FA overide on the Dimmers. Another one I've seen is trying to turn the cabin into night time on a day time flight.

You can technologise a lot of things, but the window shades should of stayed as they were.
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Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:13 pm

Any recent photo's of the first frame coming together?
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Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:15 pm

IIRC the window dimming will not be available on the 777X. Too much of a hassle to retrofit onto the 777 architecture without a clear enough payoff.
 
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Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:17 pm

Stitch wrote:
Arion640 wrote:
Has the 777X got the silly windows?

The windows will be larger and positioned to both allow in more ambient light and improve passenger sight lines when looking out. The dimming functionality from the 787 was considered, but I believe if it will be available, it will be a customer-specified option and not standard.

See #110 above for a nice diagram.

Arion640 wrote:
Thanks,

I like the larger windows. But not the dimming feature, I once missed what probably would of been a fantastic sunrise on American Airlines because of FA overide on the Dimmers. Another one I've seen is trying to turn the cabin into night time on a day time flight.

You can technologise a lot of things, but the window shades should of stayed as they were.

It's appropriate that Boeing is casting shade on you, since you never miss a chance to cast shade on them! :biggrin:
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Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:32 pm

Revelation wrote:
Stitch wrote:
Arion640 wrote:
Has the 777X got the silly windows?

The windows will be larger and positioned to both allow in more ambient light and improve passenger sight lines when looking out. The dimming functionality from the 787 was considered, but I believe if it will be available, it will be a customer-specified option and not standard.

See #110 above for a nice diagram.

Arion640 wrote:
Thanks,

I like the larger windows. But not the dimming feature, I once missed what probably would of been a fantastic sunrise on American Airlines because of FA overide on the Dimmers. Another one I've seen is trying to turn the cabin into night time on a day time flight.

You can technologise a lot of things, but the window shades should of stayed as they were.

It's appropriate that Boeing is casting shade on you, since you never miss a chance to cast shade on them! :biggrin:


Well haha. As a patriotic british citizen, I do like to defend the british made products (or partly made products) I'm an airbus fanboy to some extent.
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Well haha. As a patriotic british citizen, I do like to defend the british made products (or partly made products) I'm an airbus fanboy to some extent.

Thank you for your candour. ;-)
 
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Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:50 pm

Revelation's note to look at post 110 for the windows caused me to relook at the assembly picture on Post 101.. what is puzzling is the missing crown skin on at least one and maybe two fuselage sections (42 and 43). I think the red pieces in the background are stability rods .. Never seen Boeing join a section missing the crown skin. it's just too wobbly..

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They are significantly taller than the previous 777 windows but not as tall as those on the 787. Boeing's 777X website has a comparative picture somewhere.


This?

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